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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Symmetry on Thu May 10, 2012 6:38 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:Isn't the ODO more of the modern version while the OED is basically an old, out of touch, and needs to be revamped version? ;)


Short answer- no.

Longer answer- no, and you're an idiot.

More reasonable answer- no, and you're an idiot, sorry.


Sarcasm:
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt:

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sarcasm?region=us

Maybe I'm not the idiot here...


I don't know. I'm not the one posting definitions of sarcasm after an obviously sarcastic post. Here's a picture of a kitten:

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If I'm correct, and you are an idiot, your next post will identify my picture as being of a kitten, and feature a definition of the word "kitten" from whatever third rate dictionary you currently employ as a crutch for your inability to argue.

Of course, if your reply doesn't do that, you'll still be an idiot, albeit one who has learned from his mistakes.


Aw shucks, you got me.

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Here's one for you.

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Then you genuinely are an idiot. Bear in mind that I'm not attacking you as a person- I have no idea who you are. I'm attacking your arguments, and judging you on their poor quality over a consistent period. Indeed, you seem to have regressed to the point of making your arguments in picture format. Endearing in a small child, less so in an adult.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Symmetry on Thu May 10, 2012 6:40 pm

Although, to be fair, a smart kid would have drawn their own pictures.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby patrickaa317 on Thu May 10, 2012 6:43 pm

Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Short answer- no.

Longer answer- no, and you're an idiot.

More reasonable answer- no, and you're an idiot, sorry.


Sarcasm:
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt:

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sarcasm?region=us

Maybe I'm not the idiot here...


I don't know. I'm not the one posting definitions of sarcasm after an obviously sarcastic post. Here's a picture of a kitten:

Image

If I'm correct, and you are an idiot, your next post will identify my picture as being of a kitten, and feature a definition of the word "kitten" from whatever third rate dictionary you currently employ as a crutch for your inability to argue.

Of course, if your reply doesn't do that, you'll still be an idiot, albeit one who has learned from his mistakes.


Aw shucks, you got me.

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Here's one for you.

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Then you genuinely are an idiot. Bear in mind that I'm not attacking you as a person- I have no idea who you are. I'm attacking your arguments, and judging you on their poor quality over a consistent period. Indeed, you seem to have regressed to the point of making your arguments in picture format. Endearing in a small child, less so in an adult.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


I responded in picture format because I thought that might help you out. You seemed to have missed the sarcasm that I posted earlier when you apparently attacked my arguments and not me, despite the below comment.

Symmetry wrote: you're an idiot.


Anyway, this conversation seems to have died out over the last 10-15 posts. Wonder how long until another gay marriage thread starts up and everyone says the same things again.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Symmetry on Thu May 10, 2012 6:51 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I responded in picture format because I thought that might help you out. You seemed to have missed the sarcasm that I posted earlier when you apparently attacked my arguments and not me, despite the below comment.

Symmetry wrote: you're an idiot.


Anyway, this conversation seems to have died out over the last 10-15 posts. Wonder how long until another gay marriage thread starts up and everyone says the same things again.


I apologised for calling you an idiot. Surely you saw that? It does seem to take a fair bit of arguing to get you to admit that you're wrong. You seem more upset about how people explain your mistakes to you than actually admitting them.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby patrickaa317 on Thu May 10, 2012 6:53 pm

Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I responded in picture format because I thought that might help you out. You seemed to have missed the sarcasm that I posted earlier when you apparently attacked my arguments and not me, despite the below comment.

Symmetry wrote: you're an idiot.


Anyway, this conversation seems to have died out over the last 10-15 posts. Wonder how long until another gay marriage thread starts up and everyone says the same things again.


I apologised for calling you an idiot. Surely you saw that? It does seem to take a fair bit of arguing to get you to admit that you're wrong. You seem more upset about how people explain your mistakes to you than actually admitting them.


Examples of people explaining my mistakes and me being upset in this thread?
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Symmetry on Thu May 10, 2012 7:02 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I responded in picture format because I thought that might help you out. You seemed to have missed the sarcasm that I posted earlier when you apparently attacked my arguments and not me, despite the below comment.

Symmetry wrote: you're an idiot.


Anyway, this conversation seems to have died out over the last 10-15 posts. Wonder how long until another gay marriage thread starts up and everyone says the same things again.


I apologised for calling you an idiot. Surely you saw that? It does seem to take a fair bit of arguing to get you to admit that you're wrong. You seem more upset about how people explain your mistakes to you than actually admitting them.


Examples of people explaining my mistakes and me being upset in this thread?


No need to get defensive, you do accept that you made mistakes in this thread right? Or are you just being a dick and demanding that people explain your mistakes to you again before you acknowledge them?

And seriously? No picture this time? Maybe you are learning.
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Postby 2dimes on Thu May 10, 2012 7:04 pm

Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:Isn't the ODO more of the modern version while the OED is basically an old, out of touch, and needs to be revamped version? ;)


Short answer- no.

Longer answer- no, and you're an idiot.

More reasonable answer- no, and you're an idiot, sorry.

I for one am pretty dissapointed there was not "Scooby Doo ending" answer.
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Re:

Postby Symmetry on Thu May 10, 2012 7:10 pm

2dimes wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:Isn't the ODO more of the modern version while the OED is basically an old, out of touch, and needs to be revamped version? ;)


Short answer- no.

Longer answer- no, and you're an idiot.

More reasonable answer- no, and you're an idiot, sorry.

I for one am pretty dissapointed there was not "Scooby Doo ending" answer.


In Scooby Doo, the monster turns out to be an ordinary guy. Here, the idiot turns out to be an idiot. No big reveal, I'm afraid.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby patrickaa317 on Thu May 10, 2012 7:59 pm

Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I responded in picture format because I thought that might help you out. You seemed to have missed the sarcasm that I posted earlier when you apparently attacked my arguments and not me, despite the below comment.

Symmetry wrote: you're an idiot.


Anyway, this conversation seems to have died out over the last 10-15 posts. Wonder how long until another gay marriage thread starts up and everyone says the same things again.


I apologised for calling you an idiot. Surely you saw that? It does seem to take a fair bit of arguing to get you to admit that you're wrong. You seem more upset about how people explain your mistakes to you than actually admitting them.


Examples of people explaining my mistakes and me being upset in this thread?


No need to get defensive, you do accept that you made mistakes in this thread right? Or are you just being a dick and demanding that people explain your mistakes to you again before you acknowledge them?

And seriously? No picture this time? Maybe you are learning.


lol, that's all i have to say is lol.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Symmetry on Thu May 10, 2012 10:21 pm

patrickaa317 wrote:lol, that's all i have to say is lol.


I don't disagree.
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Re:

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri May 11, 2012 8:31 am

2dimes wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:Isn't the ODO more of the modern version while the OED is basically an old, out of touch, and needs to be revamped version? ;)


Short answer- no.

Longer answer- no, and you're an idiot.

More reasonable answer- no, and you're an idiot, sorry.

I for one am pretty dissapointed there was not "Scooby Doo ending" answer.


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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Swimmerdude99 on Sat May 12, 2012 12:36 am

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swimmerdude99 wrote:Marriage was designed for couples to have children


People were having children loooooong before marriage was invented. Besides, the form and function of marriage has differed between cultures, and within those cultures it has drastically changed over time. In the modern world, most people get married because they are interested in who they're getting married to, not because of the potential children they might have someday.

Forgive my doubt here, but I have a feeling that the only reason you choose to define marriage that way is because you are looking for a way to argue against gay marriage. Free thinking involves taking some given premises and arriving at a conclusion, but so often when it comes to this issue people take the reverse path. They aren't looking for the best answer, they're looking for a way to get what they want.


Not really, also the point is that marriage between oppossite sex helps the society by procreating and bringing the next set of people into the world. Without the next generation the human race goes extinct. Thus the reason the government (in US anyways) gives certain tax breaks to married couples and couples with kids; it helps society. For "married" gays to get the same incentive defeats the reason they were initially instituted... just my 2 cents.

I'm not against gays or lesbians, I have friends who life that lifestyle, I think it is morally wrong, yet one of my best friends is gay and I don't hate him. I just don't think it is correct morally and 2nd is in my opinion a degeneration of society because it doesn't build society.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Phatscotty on Sat May 12, 2012 12:51 am

swimmerdude99 wrote:Marriage by definition is between a man and a woman, it also moves society forward, however gay "marriage" would not. You can' have gay "marriage." Marriage was designed for couples to have children and for their relationship to be recognized. The act of gays getting "married" isn't the same thing at all.


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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby chang50 on Sat May 12, 2012 1:03 am

Phatscotty wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:Marriage by definition is between a man and a woman, it also moves society forward, however gay "marriage" would not. You can' have gay "marriage." Marriage was designed for couples to have children and for their relationship to be recognized. The act of gays getting "married" isn't the same thing at all.


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Because thats what really matters,petty point-scoring.F@ck having a serious discussion,and heaven forbid listening to different points of view and learning something..
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Phatscotty on Sat May 12, 2012 1:07 am

chang50 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:Marriage by definition is between a man and a woman, it also moves society forward, however gay "marriage" would not. You can' have gay "marriage." Marriage was designed for couples to have children and for their relationship to be recognized. The act of gays getting "married" isn't the same thing at all.


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Because thats what really matters,petty point-scoring.F@ck having a serious discussion,and heaven forbid listening to different points of view and learning something..


I have listened to different points of view. I have discussed it with all of you for years. I have discussed with my mother for endless hours, who is firmly in support of gay marriage. I have followed all the stories, saw all the votes and related outcomes of court cases, state legislatures, state constitutional amendments, and I've been watching for quite a while now. I do not go to church and I do not consider myself religious.

I have listened to all sides, and I have made a decision.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby vodean on Sat May 12, 2012 4:20 am

marriage is kinda an outdated concept anyway... why dont we abolish it for all people and have people live together in informal civil unions... or hippie, cult-like societies where people collectively raise children and care for everyone's children equally.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Phatscotty on Sat May 12, 2012 9:43 am

What we learned this week is that Joe Biden is out of touch with the mainstream, and then Barak Hussein Obama joined him.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Frigidus on Sat May 12, 2012 1:22 pm

Phatscotty wrote:What we learned this week is that Joe Biden is out of touch with the mainstream, and then Barak Hussein Obama joined him.


How so? The majority of the country is in favor of gay marriage, and in three or four decades most of the opposition that's left will have died of old age.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Phatscotty on Sat May 12, 2012 1:25 pm

Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:What we learned this week is that Joe Biden is out of touch with the mainstream, and then Barak Hussein Obama joined him.


How so? The majority of the country is in favor of gay marriage, and in three or four decades most of the opposition that's left will have died of old age.


Then a majority of states will accept gay marriage
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Frigidus on Sat May 12, 2012 1:26 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:What we learned this week is that Joe Biden is out of touch with the mainstream, and then Barak Hussein Obama joined him.


How so? The majority of the country is in favor of gay marriage, and in three or four decades most of the opposition that's left will have died of old age.


Then a majority of states will accept gay marriage


I imagine they'll eventually just amend the Constitution.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Phatscotty on Sat May 12, 2012 1:29 pm

Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:What we learned this week is that Joe Biden is out of touch with the mainstream, and then Barak Hussein Obama joined him.


How so? The majority of the country is in favor of gay marriage, and in three or four decades most of the opposition that's left will have died of old age.


Then a majority of states will accept gay marriage


I imagine they'll eventually just amend the Constitution.


31 states already have or have taken similar measures

North Carolina is the most recent
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Frigidus on Sat May 12, 2012 1:32 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:What we learned this week is that Joe Biden is out of touch with the mainstream, and then Barak Hussein Obama joined him.


How so? The majority of the country is in favor of gay marriage, and in three or four decades most of the opposition that's left will have died of old age.


Then a majority of states will accept gay marriage


I imagine they'll eventually just amend the Constitution.


31 states already have or have taken similar measures

North Carolina is the most recent


No, like, they'll amend the country's Constitution to force things across the country. I can't predict when, but in one hundred years if that hasn't occurred I'll be shocked.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Phatscotty on Sat May 12, 2012 2:13 pm

Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Frigidus wrote:How so? The majority of the country is in favor of gay marriage, and in three or four decades most of the opposition that's left will have died of old age.


Then a majority of states will accept gay marriage


I imagine they'll eventually just amend the Constitution.


31 states already have or have taken similar measures

North Carolina is the most recent


No, like, they'll amend the country's Constitution to force things across the country. I can't predict when, but in one hundred years if that hasn't occurred I'll be shocked.


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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby Symmetry on Sat May 12, 2012 2:44 pm

vodean wrote:marriage is kinda an outdated concept anyway... why dont we abolish it for all people and have people live together in informal civil unions... or hippie, cult-like societies where people collectively raise children and care for everyone's children equally.


North Carolina also banned civil unions for gay people. This isn't a thread on gay marriage.
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Re: North Carolina: No Gays allowed

Postby vodean on Sat May 12, 2012 3:29 pm

Symmetry wrote:
vodean wrote:marriage is kinda an outdated concept anyway... why dont we abolish it for all people and have people live together in informal civil unions... or hippie, cult-like societies where people collectively raise children and care for everyone's children equally.


North Carolina also banned civil unions for gay people.

only formal ones. gays can still live together and f*ck like bunnies
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