Global Warming will cause a Harsh Winter...wait what..?

[NomadPatriot]

Let's assume you made a valid point.

indeed..

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oh JP.. i did not fail at all..

failing would entail the bear trap I set was pertaining to everything above .. and not what was below... It was actually difficult to work a series of comments in order to succeed..

I was only about 88% sure you were a Science Teacher.. but wasn't 100% .
baiting your arrogance to confirm it & distracting you from realizing 'the big picture' of what I was doing..
f-ing priceless...



here's a fun website.. this page notes the day War Reparations and Peace Settlement between Philippines and Japan was finally signed at Malacañang Palace under Magsaysay administration

--> https://www.onthisday.com/date/1956/may/9
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maybe you should try debating the topic for now on instead of constantly dishing out your personal attacks on your opponents... it only shows your "facts" cannot stand on their own...

also, harassing people like that will only lead to bad karma... & even though I am not a religious man.. the Golden Rule is a lovely thing to enforce... when needed

[jusplay4fun]

The Bible is one book. Science is not one book. Again, MADp fails miserably. This is another of his feeble attempts and failures to engage in debate and discussion.

JP4Fun

nonfiction
noun
the branch of literature comprising works of narrative prose dealing with or offering opinions or conjectures upon facts and reality, including biography, history, and the essay (opposed to fiction and distinguished from poetry and drama).

Note it doesn't have to be "true." Flat Earth books, Scientology, and even the Bible qualify under the above definition. They are all opinions and conjectures.

it's weird someone would move Bibles OUT of the Barnes & Noble Non-Fiction Section.
since Bibles & Christianity is listed as Non-Fiction on the Barnes & Noble Website. same as Science.

hmmmmm

so if one book can be questioned as fiction or non-fiction.. the other must also..

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/h/books/browse

[NomadPatriot]

The Bible is one book. Science is not one book. Again, MADp fails miserably. This is another of his feeble attempts and failures to engage in debate and discussion.

JP4Fun

nonfiction
noun
the branch of literature comprising works of narrative prose dealing with or offering opinions or conjectures upon facts and reality, including biography, history, and the essay (opposed to fiction and distinguished from poetry and drama).

Note it doesn't have to be "true." Flat Earth books, Scientology, and even the Bible qualify under the above definition. They are all opinions and conjectures.

it's weird someone would move Bibles OUT of the Barnes & Noble Non-Fiction Section.
since Bibles & Christianity is listed as Non-Fiction on the Barnes & Noble Website. same as Science.

hmmmmm

so if one book can be questioned as fiction or non-fiction.. the other must also..

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/h/books/browse

oh really JP... just 1 bible huh.. and according to you... A Science Teacher.. it's called The Bible..

funny how I didn't say "The Bible".. I said … " Bibles"..
because I am intelligent enough to know there is more then 1 book called a bible..
so..
let's see who is a miserable failure

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Types of Bibles

•Traditional. Text only. Minimal footnotes.
•Study Bible. Such Bibles usually have extensive footnotes and explanatory notes next to...
•Reference Bible. Usually has a cyclopedic index...
•"Place in Life" Bible. Has meditations and thoughts about issues of concern to people...
•One-Year Bibles. Divided into 365 readings for each day of the year,...
-----
- Protestant Bible
- Catholic Bible
- Jewish Bible
- Anglican Bible
- Greek Orthodox Bible
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King James Version (KJV)

New International Version (NIV)

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

New King James Version (NKJV)

English Standard Version (ESV)

New Living Translation (NLT)

Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

New Century Version (NCV)

What is The Voice translation of the Bible?

New English Bible (NEB)

American Standard Version (ASV)

Good News Bible (GNB) / Today’s English Version (TEV)

Amplified Bible (AMP)

Today’s New International Version (TNIV)

New English Translation (NET)

Lexham English Bible (LEB)?

Revised Standard Version (RSV)

Contemporary English Version (CEV)

God’s Word Translation (GW)

Common English Bible (CEB)

What is the Recovery Version of the Bible?

New International Readers Version (NIrV)

Easy-To-Read Version (ERV)

Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

Bible in Basic English (BBE)

21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

What is the Modern King James Version (MKJV)?

What is the Modern English Version (MEV)?

World English Bible (WEB)

Revised English Bible (REB)

Jerusalem Bible (JB)

New American Bible (NAB)

The Living Bible (TLB)

The Message (MSG)

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

Wycliffe Bible

Tyndale Bible

Coverdale Bible

Matthew Bible

Great Bible

The Bishops' Bible

Douay-Rheims Version (DRV)

Geneva Bible

[jusplay4fun]

I will agree with Tzor on this point: Some use (or deny) Science and scientific facts because of their political biases. Many who deny man-made global warming tend to be (at least in the USA) of one political party. It is almost a badge to identify those who are "true apostles" of the party and a badge of honor to be a denier of "fake" science.

The facts are quite clear. Man-made global warming is widely accepted by most scientists who study Global Warming and Climate Change. The facts and evidence are overwhelming. The only refutation I have read by Tzor is that NASA is biased or too PC or some such drivel. MADp offers no refutation (that I have read) to my cited 7 facts by NASA that clearly documents world-wide Global Warming and the preponderance of such evidence.

For those who are new to this discussion (or need a refresher): https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

JP4Fun

"Science" is a method; a way of looking at, ordering, and making predictions of the world around us. Nothing so annoys me as much as "Settled Science." Facts can easily be settled, because they can be shown to be true or false. Theories can be "somewhat" settled ... at least until new facts come in that are not in line with the theory. One problem (or is it an advantage) is that most people look at a narrow range of facts. Reconciling these sometimes contradictory facts is not easy (unless you're Einstein).

This is exceptionally true for complex systems such as the weather, but since it's a bogyman of sorts I will use the example of the human body. We know a lot about the human body, thousands of scientists have given us millions of facts. Yet, often, when a doctor prescribes something to address a certain condition it only makes another condition, previously not present, form. Take a pill, for example, to cure one type of kidney stone and the kidney will start to produce another type of kidney stone.

All of this is interesting, but pointless. We're really not talking "science" here. We're talking "politics." More importantly, we are talking about the weapons of politics, which is generally antithetical to real science. No one really cares if the environmental damage done by making solar panels might be greater than the environmental damage saved by solar panels. (I'd put solar panels on my roof if it wasn't for those tall trees in my front yard, blocking the sun and absorbing CO2. Annoyingly I'm on a hill and if the sun were in the north I would have ideal conditions.) If people were really serious about the science we would be looking at international policies to get China into line.

But we don't because the politics is to bribe scientists through easy grant offers that establish the "fact" that we need to raise taxes so that the people in power can ... er make more money? (Or break the back of the coal miners union, as was the original situation in the UK.)

[jusplay4fun]

Hey MADp, do you realize that you cite different TRANSLATIONS of the SAME BOOK?

WoW, your ignorance is appalling.

JP4Fun

The Bible is one book. Science is not one book. Again, MADp fails miserably. This is another of his feeble attempts and failures to engage in debate and discussion.

JP4Fun

nonfiction
noun
the branch of literature comprising works of narrative prose dealing with or offering opinions or conjectures upon facts and reality, including biography, history, and the essay (opposed to fiction and distinguished from poetry and drama).

Note it doesn't have to be "true." Flat Earth books, Scientology, and even the Bible qualify under the above definition. They are all opinions and conjectures.

it's weird someone would move Bibles OUT of the Barnes & Noble Non-Fiction Section.
since Bibles & Christianity is listed as Non-Fiction on the Barnes & Noble Website. same as Science.

hmmmmm

so if one book can be questioned as fiction or non-fiction.. the other must also..

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/h/books/browse

oh really JP... just 1 bible huh..
let's see who is a miserable failure …

Types of Bibles

•Traditional. Text only. Minimal footnotes.
•Study Bible. Such Bibles usually have extensive footnotes and explanatory notes next to...
•Reference Bible. Usually has a cyclopedic index...
•"Place in Life" Bible. Has meditations and thoughts about issues of concern to people...
•One-Year Bibles. Divided into 365 readings for each day of the year,...
-----
- Protestant Bible
- Catholic Bible
- Jewish Bible
- Anglican Bible
- Greek Orthodox Bible
---------

King James Version (KJV)

New International Version (NIV)

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

New King James Version (NKJV)

English Standard Version (ESV)

New Living Translation (NLT)

Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

New Century Version (NCV)

What is The Voice translation of the Bible?

New English Bible (NEB)

American Standard Version (ASV)

Good News Bible (GNB) / Today’s English Version (TEV)

Amplified Bible (AMP)

Today’s New International Version (TNIV)

New English Translation (NET)

Lexham English Bible (LEB)?

Revised Standard Version (RSV)

Contemporary English Version (CEV)

God’s Word Translation (GW)

Common English Bible (CEB)

What is the Recovery Version of the Bible?

New International Readers Version (NIrV)

Easy-To-Read Version (ERV)

Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

Bible in Basic English (BBE)

21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

What is the Modern King James Version (MKJV)?

What is the Modern English Version (MEV)?

World English Bible (WEB)

Revised English Bible (REB)

Jerusalem Bible (JB)

New American Bible (NAB)

The Living Bible (TLB)

The Message (MSG)

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

Wycliffe Bible

Tyndale Bible

Coverdale Bible

Matthew Bible

Great Bible

The Bishops' Bible

Douay-Rheims Version (DRV)

Geneva Bible

[NomadPatriot]

Hey MADp, do you realize that you cite different TRANSLATIONS of the SAME BOOK?

WoW, your ignorance is appalling.

JP4Fun

and you think the Jewish Bible is just a different TRANSLATION of the Christian Bible...
you think they are the same book..

you do not now much about religion.. do you..
the Christian bible says Jesus was the immaculately born son of God

the Jewish Bible says --> Jesus of Nazareth is that he was an ordinary Jewish man and, most likely, a preacher living during the Roman occupation of Israel in the 1st century C.E. The Romans executed him

so who is the f-ing ignorant fool now JP.. ?

[jusplay4fun]

The Jews do not have a Bible. The Old Testament is mostly what the Jews consider their sacred texts.

Again, your lack of knowledge is appalling.

Give it up; you LOST, again.

JP4Fun

Hey MADp, do you realize that you cite different TRANSLATIONS of the SAME BOOK?

WoW, your ignorance is appalling.

JP4Fun

and you think the Jewish Bible is just a different TRANSLATION of the Christian Bible...
you think they are the same book..

you do not now much about religion.. do you..

[NomadPatriot]

The Jews do not have a Bible. The Old Testament is mostly what the Jews consider their sacred texts.

Again, your lack of knowledge is appalling.

Give it up; you LOST, again.

JP4Fun

Hey MADp, do you realize that you cite different TRANSLATIONS of the SAME BOOK?

WoW, your ignorance is appalling.

JP4Fun

and you think the Jewish Bible is just a different TRANSLATION of the Christian Bible...
you think they are the same book..

you do not now much about religion.. do you..

it's called the Hebrew Bible Genius..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_Bible

you can buy the Complete Jewish Bible on Amazon right now for $21.17...

[NomadPatriot]

come on JP..
the Christian bible says Jesus was the immaculately born son of God

the Hebrew Bible says --> Jesus of Nazareth is that he was an ordinary Jewish man and, most likely, a preacher living during the Roman occupation of Israel in the 1st century C.E. The Romans executed him

so who is the f-ing ignorant fool now JP.. ?

thought they were the same book...

odd how you keep referring to Jewish people as "the jews"..

[NomadPatriot]

i'll give you some time to do some research online..

[jusplay4fun]

Yes, I know that. You are the one who used the term "Jewish Bible." Read up and get your FACTS correct before responding.

It is pointless to discuss anything with you; you cannot even have command the facts that you write.

JP4Fun

come on JP..
the Christian bible says Jesus was the immaculately born son of God

the Hebrew Bible says --> Jesus of Nazareth is that he was an ordinary Jewish man and, most likely, a preacher living during the Roman occupation of Israel in the 1st century C.E. The Romans executed him

so who is the f-ing ignorant fool now JP.. ?

thought they were the same book...

odd how you keep referring to Jewish people as "the jews"..

[NomadPatriot]

Yes, I know that. You are the one who used the term "Jewish Bible." Read up and get your FACTS correct before responding.

It is pointless to discuss anything with you; you cannot even have command the facts that you write.

JP4Fun

come on JP..
the Christian bible says Jesus was the immaculately born son of God

the Hebrew Bible says --> Jesus of Nazareth is that he was an ordinary Jewish man and, most likely, a preacher living during the Roman occupation of Israel in the 1st century C.E. The Romans executed him

so who is the f-ing ignorant fool now JP.. ?

thought they were the same book...

odd how you keep referring to Jewish people as "the jews"..

you are not going to address the notion you stated was a fact.. that the … 2 bibles are the same book.. yet they state drastically different things about Jesus...?

aren't you smarter than me … JP...?

I would think you would be Rooster Strutting all over me telling me how wrong I am & how right you are .. that there is no difference between the Jewish version of Jesus in the Hebrew Bible & the Christian Version of Jesus in the Christian Bible..
because .. according to you. .they are just the same book.. only TRANSLATED differently..

weird ..

[tzor]

The Bible is one book.

Can I nit pick for a moment? The Bible is not "one book" (a set of written sheets of skin or paper or tablets of wood or ivory) but a compilation of a number of "books" generally in one bound volume. OK, Nit pick over.

I would think you would be Rooster Strutting all over me telling me how wrong I am & how right you are .. that there is no difference between the Jewish version of Jesus in the Hebrew Bible & the Christian Version of Jesus in the Christian Bible..

And here we see the results of the idea that the Bible is one "book." The books of the Christian Bibles (yes that is plural) that mention Jesus are never included in the volumes of the Hebrew "Bibles" (as Bible is technically a Christian term). Yes there are sometimes significant differences in translations among a number of the common books (in part because some Christian Bibles used the original Greek translation of the Hebrew writings, generally know in those days by their three divisions, the Law, the Prophets and other writings, not all of which were in Hebrew - although the council of Jamnia would toss all writings not written in Hebrew out).

Let me repeat that, there is no Jewish version of Jesus in the "Hebrew Bible."

[NomadPatriot]

The Bible is one book.

Can I nit pick for a moment? The Bible is not "one book" (a set of written sheets of skin or paper or tablets of wood or ivory) but a compilation of a number of "books" generally in one bound volume. OK, Nit pick over.

I would think you would be Rooster Strutting all over me telling me how wrong I am & how right you are .. that there is no difference between the Jewish version of Jesus in the Hebrew Bible & the Christian Version of Jesus in the Christian Bible..

And here we see the results of the idea that the Bible is one "book." The books of the Christian Bibles (yes that is plural) that mention Jesus are never included in the volumes of the Hebrew "Bibles" (as Bible is technically a Christian term). Yes there are sometimes significant differences in translations among a number of the common books (in part because some Christian Bibles used the original Greek translation of the Hebrew writings, generally know in those days by their three divisions, the Law, the Prophets and other writings, not all of which were in Hebrew - although the council of Jamnia would toss all writings not written in Hebrew out).

Let me repeat that, there is no Jewish version of Jesus in the "Hebrew Bible."

technically.. the Christian 'Jesus' is a version of the Jewish 'Yeshua'.. & i think the Hebrew writings that encompass the Hebrew bible predate the Christian bible..

but "the Bible" is defined as both a collection of Christian Writings & a collection of Jewish Writings

" A bible" is a book regarded as authoritative in a particular sphere.


Bible
NOUN
1.(the Bible)

the Christian scriptures, consisting of the Old and New Testaments.

•(the Bible)
the Jewish scriptures, consisting of the Torah or Law, the Prophets, and the Hagiographa or Writings.

•a copy of the Christian or Jewish scriptures.

2.
informal

a book regarded as authoritative in a particular sphere.

[tzor]

Technically the "Christian" Bible is a collection with the canon of works being a superset of the canon of works from the collection that is referred to as the "Jewish" or "Hebrew" Bible. Given the decisions of the council of Jamnia, none of the books in the Christian Canon predate any of the works of the Hebrew Bible. All canons, however, were all designed a century or more after Jesus.