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Re: So, Silence on Chinese Balloon, Anyone???

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:55 pm

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saxitoxin wrote:Biden could have provided housing for 150 homeless battered women for one year with the amount of money he's spent entertaining himself by shooting down hot air balloons this week.


Meanwhile, Republicans propose cutting all spending to homeless battered women, and increase budget for hot air ballon defense by 5 billion annually.


That's the storyline from the 2010s. In 2023, the only people who want to keep spending on America's international murder program are the Rats. The GOP is calling for a modicum of moderation (but still not enough) in America's unhinged campaign of global terror and violence, to the chagrin of the bloodthirsty Rats.


    A group of corporate Democrats led by Rep. Jared Golden of Maine sent a letter Wednesday defending the out-of-control U.S. military budget and expressing concerns about looming attempts by House Republicans to cut it.

    In their letter to House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), Golden, Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), and other members of the right-wing Blue Dog Coalition celebrated the bipartisan vote last month to add $45 billion to the latest military budget proposed by President Joe Biden, claiming the extra money is necessary for "the procurement of additional naval ships at a time in which China has developed the world's largest navy" and for "strengthening the defense industrial base."

    But the lawmakers voiced alarm over the House GOP majority's expressed support for capping federal outlays across the board at Fiscal Year 2022 levels—a move that would, in theory, cut tens of billions off the military budget.


    https://www.commondreams.org/news/corpo ... gon-budget
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Re: So, Silence on Chinese Balloon, Anyone???

Postby jimboston on Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:32 pm

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I work for Attain Housing.

That photo is stock photo from a 3rd party photo provider.
Those people are actors and were paid to pose in that position for this 3rd party photographer.

I get your point, but if you’re gonna throw up pictures please use only actual homeless people to make your point.
Not well to do stay-at-home moms who pose for pictures like this with their kids hoping their kids will be the Next Top Model.
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Re: So, Silence on Chinese Balloon, Anyone???

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:58 pm

Jesus, sometimes I feel like I joined a Risk site for people with Aspergers.
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Re: So, Silence on Chinese Balloon, Anyone???

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:17 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Jesus, sometimes I feel like I joined a Risk site for people with Aspergers.


Is that what you got, Saxi..?? :D
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:06 pm

------------Well today another object similar to the Balloon last week...NORAD detected it...;););)...Just about to enter Alaskan air space...40,000ft up...The size of a small car....Biden orders it shot down NOW!!!!!!
-------------- Well,well...Biden is made fun of last week for not shooting a Balloon over Alaskan waters ...State of the Union,never mention the balloon or China's spying....All of a sudden... Another object enters Alaskan waters... ;) ;) ;) Biden orders this one shot down....LOOKS LIKE A, MAKE BIDEN LOOK TOUGH , FAKE VIOLATION OF USA AIRSPACE....You can't make this up....Biden lies on everything about the country,his life....NOW A Mysterious second object in Alaska...
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
-----------An Object that appeared Out of thin air...Maybe Big Mama and Corn Pop launched it from the Arctic Circle... That's Biden...:)
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby GaryDenton on Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:28 am

LOL! This is what all of us libs predicted.
You guys freak out and spin wild theories about Biden not ordering a balloon shot down. When the next one appears and he orders it almost immediately shot down you criticize him more. So effing predictable.
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby GaryDenton on Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:43 am

I should mention the China Initiative since Saxi wrote it as another example of Biden under the control of China. It was shut down because of severe problems, expected under Trump.
Here is one case prosecuted.
"The FBI concocted a crime where one did not exist. They were driven by their desire to arrest a Chinese scientist and struggled to find an argument of criminal activity. There was none,” Hu’s Defence Attorney Phil Lomonaco told University World News via email. After his exoneration, Hu, who had been fired by the University of Tennessee, was reinstated.
...The China Initiative consumed an extraordinary amount of law enforcement manpower with amazingly few results."

https://www.universityworldnews.com/post.php?story=20220225125108972
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:28 am

GaryDenton wrote:I should mention the China Initiative since Saxi wrote it as another example of Biden under the control of China. It was shut down because of severe problems, expected under Trump.
Here is one case prosecuted.
"The FBI concocted a crime where one did not exist. They were driven by their desire to arrest a Chinese scientist and struggled to find an argument of criminal activity. There was none,” Hu’s Defence Attorney Phil Lomonaco told University World News via email. After his exoneration, Hu, who had been fired by the University of Tennessee, was reinstated.
...The China Initiative consumed an extraordinary amount of law enforcement manpower with amazingly few results."

https://www.universityworldnews.com/post.php?story=20220225125108972


LOL.

Gary just proved he'd never heard of the China Initiative until he went desperately googling it for the talking points he needed to regurgitate here.

Wanna know how I know?

If he had, he wouldn't have cited an article that referenced the Hu case. The China Initiative resulted in 72 successful prosecutions. And the one acquittal cited in the article? The prosecutor in that case was nominated for a promotion by Biden.

    President Joe Biden named Casey Arrowood, an assistant attorney for the U.S. Department of Justice, to lead the district. The Senate must confirm the nomination. The nomination shocked Chinese and Asian community members who say Arrowood and the Justice Department's handling of Anming Hu's case make him unqualified.

    https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/pol ... 607046007/

I just lay out the rope, and Gary handles the rest ...

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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby GaryDenton on Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:05 am

Even for Saxi, this is a vapid sick response.
Just read the pretty good Wiki entry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Initiative

Out of 77 known China Initiative cases, 19 involved scientists suspected of having participated in the Thousand Talents Plan, and within that group, 14 were accused of violation of research integrity standards due to failure to disclose all affiliations to Chinese entities on grant documentation. None of the 14 were accused of transferring American intellectual property to China. Of the 28 prosecutions brought forth under the China Initiative, only eight have resulted in convictions or guilty pleas. Only four were professors of Chinese descent and none were convicted for espionage or theft. According to Mark Cohen, a law school fellow at the University of California, Berkeley, "The government is settling for charges that have little to do with technology."
The first prosecution of the China Initiative, the Trial of Anming Hu, resulted in a hung jury and mistrial in June 2021, and Hu's acquittal in September 2021. Anming Hu is an associate professor in the Department of Mechanical, Aerospace and Biomedical Engineering at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville (UTK). Hu was fired in 2020 pursuant to the case against him, and reinstated in 2022.He was charged with three counts of fraud and three counts of making false statements, after 21 months of FBI surveillance failed to find any evidence of espionage.
In Hu's first trial it was revealed that the FBI knowingly built a case based on false evidence, obtained Hu's university documents without warrant, spied on Hu and his family, and attempted to coerce Hu to spy on China for the United States. The FBI agent in charge of the case, Kujtim Sadiku, did not believe that Hu was guilty of being involved with the Chinese military but gave a PowerPoint presentation to UTK administration designed to make them think he was.
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Feb 11, 2023 3:28 am

Gary has gone from googling names he hadn't heard of before now to frantically scouring Wikipedia. Love it. =D>

Again, he blindly wandered into this and posted an article about the Hu case, oblivious of the U.S. Attorney who prosecuted it ... and now his circuit board is melting down as he has to make the choice between "Trump Bad - Biden Bad" or "Trump Good - Biden Good."

    The Biden administration's nomination of Casey Arrowood as U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Tennessee has run into substantial Chinese American pushback over his past prosecution of a professor who was later cleared.

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Chines ... rosecution

Gary right now:

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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:54 am

----------The U.S. Military uses Balloons for Intel...Like in the Middle East...
------------------- The Border Patrol uses Blimps to collect information and takes pictures, To spot illegal aliens coming across the border....
------------------- Just like horses, that Biden sent back to the barn.....After something......Just because, China sent a spy balloon last week...Biden has grounded all the Blimps the Border Patrol was using.... Anything Biden can do, to stop Boder Patrol from doing their job, of protecting the Border/America... :roll: :roll: :roll:
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)

------------China currently has spy balloons flying over 40 countries......
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby jimboston on Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:37 am

So did he shoot down a fake balloon? no balloon? ground our own spy balloons?

Your conspiracy theories keep changing.

Very Q like.

None of the Q “predictions” come through… do adherents say “Oh I guess that was all bullshit.”
No

They redesign and redefine their new theories to fit current facts.
“A wasn’t wrong… people just MISINTERPRETED the posts. Hillary is gonna get arrested NEXT week, not 3 years ago…
and Trump is going to roll down Pennsylvania Ave. and take over the White House. It’s happening on St. Patty’s Day,
A told me so for real THIS TIME.”

Confed… you are the biggest waste of carbon.
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:32 pm

ConfederateSS wrote:------------Well today another object similar to the Balloon last week...NORAD detected it...;););)...Just about to enter Alaskan air space...40,000ft up...The size of a small car....Biden orders it shot down NOW!!!!!!
-------------- Well,well...Biden is made fun of last week for not shooting a Balloon over Alaskan waters ...State of the Union,never mention the balloon or China's spying....All of a sudden... Another object enters Alaskan waters... ;) ;) ;) Biden orders this one shot down....LOOKS LIKE A, MAKE BIDEN LOOK TOUGH , FAKE VIOLATION OF USA AIRSPACE....You can't make this up....Biden lies on everything about the country,his life....NOW A Mysterious second object in Alaska...
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
-----------An Object that appeared Out of thin air...Maybe Big Mama and Corn Pop launched it from the Arctic Circle... That's Biden...:)

-------------No, Jimmy B...our border blimps, are like the ones over London ,the past 2 world wars...We were not hiddening them...

--------------Not a Conspiracy....Biden is Paid by China...Has to look good, after letting China carve right through America...That went Through Alaska, Canada.....The past 2 days....Biden ,U.S. Military shot one over Alaska down, and one over Canada... Because, China's other lap commie dog Trudeau...Also "F"ed up last week....I know...2 objects :roll: ...shot over in 2 days...When One flew right on threw last week....Was luckily spotted by a regular American....So now China's lap dogs...Biden and Trudeau have to look tough... ;) ;) ....Yes Jimmy B all you have to do is look it up...That Biden has grounded Blimps at The Border Yesterday...Not that hard.... Let's see if we quit using them in the Middle East next...
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
----- Let's see, one over Alaska, one over Canada...Could one over Montana appear tomorrow, looks like Biden is shooting one a day...Over Territory, the Main Spy Balloon Flew over.... Yay.... Conspiracy :roll: :roll: :roll: ...
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:48 pm

---------... BREAKING NEWS...No sooner did I type my last post.....FAA and DOD...shut down airspace over Haver, Montana...We will wait for more news...Near are missile silos in Montana... Unbelievable :!: :!: :!: :!: ...... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:49 pm

Also, a few hours ago, the U.S. Air Force claims it shot down another UFO over the U.S.' northern buffer zone (AKA Canada by locals).

This account says two of the Oregon Air National Guard's ancient F-15s are en route to Montana. (Flown by pilots who weren't even born when they were put into service.)

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status ... 9595939846

The United Work Front of the Chinese Communist Party has released this hilarious parody video of their weather balloon in combat against the Biden Force. :lol: :lol:

Weather balloons are definitely the Iraq WMDs of 2023. How many hundreds of thousands will the war machine kill this time?
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby HitRed on Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:54 pm

Canada must have fighters
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:58 pm

HitRed wrote:Canada must have fighters


They're 40 years old. We try not to take them out of the garage too often...:)
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby ConfederateSS on Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:05 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
HitRed wrote:Canada must have fighters


They're 40 years old. We try not to take them out of the garage too often...:)

--------They have to turn the rubber bands , very, very slowly, not to snap them...... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)

-------The Pentagon told Rep. Rosendale(R)...Two fighters from Portland saw nothing in the sky...After NORAD picked up an object over Montana.... Pentagon says they will keep monitoring , but jet Fighters have to wait until day break, for eyes in the sky tomorrow morning...... Will someone at NORAD tell JOSHUA, to just play a nice game of CHESS... :D ...
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby Maxleod on Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:53 pm

LOL. Justin Trudeau apparently made Joe Biden his bitch:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... ys-trudeau

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau

Justin Trudeau wrote:I ordered the take down of an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace. @NORADCommand
shot down the object over the Yukon. Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object.


Justin Trudeau wrote:I spoke with President Biden this afternoon. Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage of the object. Thank you to NORAD for keeping the watch over North America.
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:20 pm

You guys are such a joke. He doesn't shoot down the balloon, you complain that he's not defending the airspace. He shoots down the balloon, you complain that it wasn't real. He fulfils the terms of the NORAD agreement and sends American planes into action to defend Canadian airspace as the treaty requires, you complain that he's doing Trudeau's bidding.

Let's face it: no matter what happens you'll find a way to twist it into something to complain about.
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby Doc_Brown on Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:44 pm

I would just like to congratulate the Air Force on the F-22 finally getting its first confirmed air-to-air kill this week! :D

The company I work for has a couple groups that develop and simulate radar systems. In fact, the group I lead develops algorithms for modeling and simulating various electromagnetic phenomenology, and we have an ongoing effort to predict uncertainty in radar signatures of certain types of objects. There is a lot of noise about multiple balloons entering US airspace during the Trump administration, with Trump officials denying that they heard anything about it. The noise ranges from political attacks, to conspiracy theories, to dereliction of duty. In reality, it's none of those things. The radar systems have discrimination algorithms built into them so that they identify potential threats and ignore things like birds and clouds. It's likely the radar noticed the prior balloons and recorded "something" but had no idea how to classify that something. The one earlier this week was finally properly identified. It's even conceivable that part of the reason it was allowed to traverse so much of the US airspace was to obtain a much larger training dataset for various radar and threat detection systems. And now that the detection systems have a proper identification for that unknown signature, a review of prior detection events highlighted multiple other balloon incursions that are only now correctly identified.
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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby mookiemcgee on Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:16 am

Doc_Brown wrote:I would just like to congratulate the Air Force on the F-22 finally getting its first confirmed air-to-air kill this week! :D

The company I work for has a couple groups that develop and simulate radar systems. In fact, the group I lead develops algorithms for modeling and simulating various electromagnetic phenomenology, and we have an ongoing effort to predict uncertainty in radar signatures of certain types of objects. There is a lot of noise about multiple balloons entering US airspace during the Trump administration, with Trump officials denying that they heard anything about it. The noise ranges from political attacks, to conspiracy theories, to dereliction of duty. In reality, it's none of those things. The radar systems have discrimination algorithms built into them so that they identify potential threats and ignore things like birds and clouds. It's likely the radar noticed the prior balloons and recorded "something" but had no idea how to classify that something. The one earlier this week was finally properly identified. It's even conceivable that part of the reason it was allowed to traverse so much of the US airspace was to obtain a much larger training dataset for various radar and threat detection systems. And now that the detection systems have a proper identification for that unknown signature, a review of prior detection events highlighted multiple other balloon incursions that are only now correctly identified.


I like this version of the truth! Everything checks out, except the part about 'ignoring' birds. Maybe it's because the gov't already has full GPS tracking of it's birds. That still doesn't explain why they wouldn't still want to keep track of all birds in the sky in case some of them were Chinese or Russian gov't birds.

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Re: Biden fakes downing a Balloon in Alaska!!!

Postby Doc_Brown on Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:25 am

mookiemcgee wrote:I like this version of the truth! Everything checks out, except the part about 'ignoring' birds. Maybe it's because the gov't already has full GPS tracking of it's birds. That still doesn't explain why they wouldn't still want to keep track of all birds in the sky in case some of them were Chinese or Russian gov't birds.


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