America's illogicall fixation on race

[thegreekdog]

... Controversial sheriff is TOLD he cannot conduct raids to grab illegals. He is being investigated for racial profiling. Racial freaking profiling! Not a whole lot of Swedes trying to sneak into the US through the Mexican border last I heard.
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There is a lot more to this that that video.

Actually, people here illegally originate from every country in the world, particularly Russia, Ireland, etc. They are hardly just from Mexico AND many do try to cross through Mexico -- or Canada -- or the Airports -- or docks --- Or the seashore.

That you seem to think the problem is just Mexico... again, shows your true feelings far more than your words.

Okay, look Player. I'm as for immigration (legal or illegal) as you are (probably more so).

However, why can't you just acknowledge, for once, that something that nobunaga or GabonX says is actually true, factual, and disgusting. This, for example, is disgusting. As long as illegal immigration is illegal, the law should be enforced. For you to go an argue something tangentially related without acknowledging the issue nobunaga is trying to raise is ridiculous.

[got tonkaed]

... OK, somebody tell me WHAT THE HELL is going on here.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/20 ... homel.html

... Controversial sheriff is TOLD he cannot conduct raids to grab illegals. He is being investigated for racial profiling. Racial freaking profiling! Not a whole lot of Swedes trying to sneak into the US through the Mexican border last I heard.

... Department of Homeland Security decision to strip him of authority to arrest suspected illegal immigrants based solely on their immigration status

... This is f*cked up. FUBAR, absolutely.

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Odd case that one. On the one hand I can see this being something that should be somewhat outside his jurisdiction, at least in the manner it seems to be described. Still, I think its more the method needing to be refined to more than just going to a spot with a lot of Mexicans and start rounding them up. It doesnt really look at the moment that all that much is going to change, as he still has the power to check status of anyone who is arrested, and apparently there are some old laws on the books that will allow him to do fairly similar things to what hes already doing. Granted if he gets caught planting things hes in bad shape, but if he follows correct procedures I imagine he will be vinidicated at the end of the day.

Case shows the odd dual personality we have towards illegal immigration, obviously parts of us want any illegals to be removed by whatever means necessary (the whole "illegal" thing) while other parts of us have problems with either the method or the result. Given that they seem to be doing something of a slapping on the wrist but more of a rhetorical one than an acutal one, I dont think its the worst of solutions.

[PLAYER57832]

... Controversial sheriff is TOLD he cannot conduct raids to grab illegals. He is being investigated for racial profiling. Racial freaking profiling! Not a whole lot of Swedes trying to sneak into the US through the Mexican border last I heard.
...

There is a lot more to this that that video.

Actually, people here illegally originate from every country in the world, particularly Russia, Ireland, etc. They are hardly just from Mexico AND many do try to cross through Mexico -- or Canada -- or the Airports -- or docks --- Or the seashore.

That you seem to think the problem is just Mexico... again, shows your true feelings far more than your words.

Okay, look Player. I'm as for immigration (legal or illegal) as you are (probably more so).

However, why can't you just acknowledge, for once, that something that nobunaga or GabonX says is actually true, factual, and disgusting. This, for example, is disgusting. As long as illegal immigration is illegal, the law should be enforced. For you to go an argue something tangentially related without acknowledging the issue nobunaga is trying to raise is ridiculous.

Actually, as I did say I DO know a good deal about this. Doesn't it strike you as odd that he would be ORDERED not to stop illegal aliens? (other than those arrested in crimes?) That judges would take such extreme measures against a law enforcement officer ought to be a clue that there is more going on here.

This guy was not simply "stopping people he suspected to be illegal". He had an outright campaign of harrassment that included many people who were legal.

As for the illegality being enforced-- yes and no. When a law is bad, it needs to be struck down. I am actually not for the repeated wholescale amnesty programs that merely shift anyone here into citizenship tracks. I do think an amnesty from prosecution of the workers is warranted, BUT, I would pair it with a greatly expanded guest worker type program (requiring all involved to have health insurance, pay extra for local social services, etc.) AND some tightened rules for citizenship. (that last would have to be done carefully, we don't want to create an underclass of workers who are allowed to work for low wages then told to "go home", without any possibility of staying).

Basically, I feel the enforcement needs to be on employers who are the ones really benefitting from the current system, not on folks who just want to work.

[Phatscotty]

Just some Americans

[clapper011]

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