Israel Plans to Restore Death Penalty for Everyone but Jews

[saxitoxin]

I knew GabonX's polemics sounded familiar.

And let’s end the stupid support for the Palestinians that the Eurabians have encouraged, and start supporting our cultural cousin, Israel.

How long before GabonX cracks? For the safety of Normals, should all Israel nutters just be taken into preventative detention?

[mrswdk]

Ding ding! The results are in: OT supports freedom of choice.

Hooray for OT!

[GabonX]

I knew GabonX's polemics sounded familiar.

And let’s end the stupid support for the Palestinians that the Eurabians have encouraged, and start supporting our cultural cousin, Israel.

How long before GabonX cracks? For the safety of Normals, should all Israel nutters just be taken into preventative detention?

And in your corner are Osama bin Laden and Hitler if you want to play that game...

As I pointed out previously, with an actual source, though, there is no law against incest in Israel and it is a celebrated and cherished tradition among Israelis.

Salon reports that sister fucking is protected by law in Israel.
http://www.salon.com/2010/12/13/swiss_incest/

Again, your links don't state anything remotely like what you pretend they do

These games of yours get old fast. Maybe I'll make a showing here in another 50 pages.

[saxitoxin]

I knew GabonX's polemics sounded familiar.

And let’s end the stupid support for the Palestinians that the Eurabians have encouraged, and start supporting our cultural cousin, Israel.

How long before GabonX cracks? For the safety of Normals, should all Israel nutters just be taken into preventative detention?

And in your corner are Osama bin Laden and Hitler

[GabonX]

Hitler was allies with the forefather of Palestinian nationalism. It's a historical fact...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haj_Amin_al-Husseini

[saxitoxin]

Hitler was allies with the forefather of Palestinian nationalism. It's a historical fact...

We've already been through this in another thread when you tried to pull this red herring by shotgunning pictures from Wikipedia your pastor told you about.

I pointed out that, in fact, the Zionist Abraham Stern and his Lehi Group - responsible for the slaughter and assassination of British civilians in Palestine, and even the Lord Moyne and the Swedish peace envoy the Count Bernadotte - had offered its services to Hitler to help Germany open a new front in the Middle East against the brave Americans and British fighting the Nazis. The central members of Lehi were formative to the "State" of Israel and the IDF even has a commemorative medal for them.

When this was previously brought up you started wildly waving your chubby little arms in the air, screaming "Anti-Semite!", then imploded and disappeared in a cloud of dust. I don't care to watch you have another seizure at this time; maybe you could just get out your Bible and quietly pray for me to be smoted or whatever it is you people do?

[warmonger1981]

Saxi what constitutes moral and ethical behavior? Do you believe all your morals match up with the majority? If not wouldn't you find yourself in the minority on an issue and end up on a chopping block.

I suggest Edwin Black's book The Farhud.

[mrswdk]

Morals are for homos.

[Metsfanmax]

Morals are for homos.

Homos, as in, members of the genus Homo? Agreed.

[GabonX]

Hitler was allies with the forefather of Palestinian nationalism. It's a historical fact...

We've already been through this in another thread when you tried to pull this red herring by shotgunning pictures from Wikipedia your pastor told you about.

I pointed out that, in fact, the Zionist Abraham Stern and his Lehi Group - responsible for the slaughter and assassination of British civilians in Palestine, and even the Lord Moyne and the Swedish peace envoy the Count Bernadotte - had offered its services to Hitler to help Germany open a new front in the Middle East against the brave Americans and British fighting the Nazis. The central members of Lehi were formative to the "State" of Israel and the IDF even has a commemorative medal for them.

When this was previously brought up you started wildly waving your chubby little arms in the air, screaming "Anti-Semite!", then imploded and disappeared in a cloud of dust. I don't care to watch you have another seizure at this time; maybe you could just get out your Bible and quietly pray for me to be smoted or whatever it is you people do?

Your argument that the Nazis were actually allies of the Jews doesn't hold any more weight now than the last time you tried to spin it.

If there's a red herring here, it's you trying to take focus off the indefensible fact that the forefather of Palestinian nationalism was a personal contact and ally of Adolf Hitler by bringing up an unrelated third party.

[saxitoxin]

Your argument that the Nazis were actually allies of the Jews* doesn't hold any more weight now than the last time you tried to spin it.

I know, right?! Here's that Anti-Semitic rag the Jerusalem Post spinning it, too.

Stern was convinced that sovereign statehood could be achieved only by continuing the struggle against the British. While every speaker referred to this, none mentioned that he was even prepared to collaborate with the Nazis in his bid to repel the British who regarded him as a terrorist.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Lehi-vets-c ... nniversary

Here's the campaign ribbon the IDF awards to Lehi members for massacring British women and children (goyim pigs, as they're called).



I wonder if the IDF will ever award a campaign ribbon to its soldiers who butchered goyim American sailors on the USS Liberty? Would you and your pastor support that, GabonX? What did your pastor tell you that made you become such a virulent anti-American Zionist Nutter, GabonX? Do you hate all Normals?

* No, they weren't allies. As I said, Lehi tried to ally itself with the Nazis and were rebuffed. They didn't mind selling out human civilization, and even other Jews trapped in Germany, for the sake of their own little master race, "God's Chosen."

[GabonX]

Even if everything you were saying is correct, that Zionists of the era were allies of Hitler, it wouldn't change the fact that the founder of Palestinian nationalism sought to extend the holocaust to the middle east and that Hitler agreed to help them do it.

Your argument is ridiculous on may levels. You're tying together loose facts with outright lies and comparing apples to tomatoes in that Stern is not to Israel what the Mufti was to Palestine. Stern is not the founder of Zionism, but rather the leader of one group out of several in the era, and not close to the largest of them. In order to find a reasonable comparison between the relationship Nazis had with Palestinian nationalists and that of Nazis and Zionism, you would have to show a connection between Adolf Hitler and someone like David Ben-Gurion or Theodore Herzl (who died roughly 40 years before WW2).

Stern's efforts to bring Jews from Germany to Israel is hardly as sinister as it sounds when you say he was a "Nazi collaborator." They did fight the British, but only because the British blocked emigration of Jews from German death camps to Israel...

Lehi (Hebrew pronunciation: [ˈleχi]; Hebrew: לח"י – לוחמי חרות ישראל‎ Lohamei Herut Israel – Lehi, "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel – Lehi"), commonly referred to in English as the Stern Gang,[9][10][11][12] was a militant Zionist group founded by Avraham ("Yair") Stern in the British Mandate of Palestine.[13][14] Its avowed aim was to evict the British authorities from Palestine by resort to force, allowing unrestricted immigration of Jews and the formation of a Jewish state, a 'new totalitarian Hebrew republic'.[15] It was initially called the National Military Organization in Israel,[1] upon being founded in August 1940, but was renamed Lehi one month later.[16]

Lehi split from the Irgun militant group in 1940 in order to continue fighting the British during World War II. Lehi initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, offering to fight alongside them against the British in return for the transfer of all Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe to Palestine.[2] Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis.[2] During World War II it declared that it would establish a Jewish state based upon "nationalist and totalitarian principles".[2][17] After Stern's death in 1942, the new leadership of Lehi began to move it towards support for Joseph Stalin's Soviet Union.[1] In 1944 Lehi officially declared its support for National Bolshevism.[6] It said that its National Bolshevism involved an amalgamation of left-wing and right-wing political elements – Stern said Lehi incorporated elements of both the left and the right[2] – however this change was unpopular and Lehi began to lose support as a result.[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_%28group%29

Using the kind of twisted logic you're arguing with here, you could as easily make the case that the British and the Nazis were allies because they were working together to stop Jewish emigration to the Middle East. You would just have to ignore the fact that the Nazis and the British were at war at the time, as you choose to ignore that the Nazis were murdering the people Stern sought to save by working out a deal for their safe passage.

The mufti on the other hand, the forefather of Palestinian nationalism, was a personal contact and ally of Adolf Hitler. They met personally and an army of tens of thousands of Muslims was raised to fight with the Germans with the Mufti's assistance. The agreement between he and Hitler was that after the war in Europe was contained, the Holocaust would be extended to Palestine, not that Jews would be given safe haven from Nazi forces if they emigrated there as Stern sought to achieve.

[saxitoxin]

first ...

your argument doesn't hold anymore weight

then I posted a link to the Jerusalem Post affirming "my argument" and GabonX shuffled and jived his position from outright dismissal of facts to cautious investigation of facts ...

Even if everything you were saying is correct

and, then, finally, his admission ... with a hilarious big "BUT! BUT! BUT!"

they did fight the British, but

I could keep chipping away at GabonX's attempts to apologize for the work of the Lehi Group in attempting to sell human civilization down the toilet by collaborating with the Nazis for the sake of their weird genetically-pure paradise. I could keep getting him to back up a step each time, admitting a little more with each post, but we know how it ends when he finally reaches the edge of the cliff ... he starts waving his chubby little arms in the air, screams "Anti-Semite! Anti-Semite!" and then vanishes in an explosion of fairy dust. *yawn* Next?

[GabonX]

None of that affirms your argument, or is relevant in disputing the Nazi connection to Palestinian nationalism.

[saxitoxin]

None of that affirms your argument, or is relevant in disputing the Nazi connection to Palestinian nationalism.

Palestinian nationalism is irrelevant to what we're discussing here: the Lehi Gang's attempted collaboration with the Nazis and its brutal murder of British woman and children for the sake of a genetically-pure paradise they achieved. Do you and your pastor agree with Israel's 2015 policy of continuing to award "Lehi Ribbons" to veterans of the Lehi Gang for blowing the limbs off little British boys and girls? Why do you keep dodging, GabonX? If you need to take a breather to check-in with your pastor (or your sister?) for more talking points, that's fine. Maybe a prayer break?

[saxitoxin]

American Conservative Magazine has a great summary on the absolutely BANANAS!!! nutters in the Israel lobby and its slow death spiral. Is this why GabonX and his pastor are even nuttier than usual? Desperation?

The Israeli Lobby represents less than half of American Jews. The real lobby today is an amalgam of mainly older Jews, evangelical Armageddon believers, and the military-industrial complex, which prospers from unending wars and chaos in the Middle East.

The hawkish Israeli Lobby’s massive strength in Congress depends for its power upon a myth—that it represents nearly all American Jews. Instead, today it depends upon others, especially Bible Belt Republican evangelicals—think Mike Huckabee. About them I once wrote “The Strangest Alliance in History,” explaining how each side thought it was using and fooling the other. Above all it is their longing for Armageddon that motivates many so-called Christian Zionists. They fervently believe and want Israel to help bring about the end times.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... eli-lobby/

[saxitoxin]

Seph Blatter's re-election as President of FIFA had been considered a rubber-stamp. But now, in the wake of the U.S. FBI sting operation, all of the European federations have announced they are switching their votes to Prince Ali of Jordan.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/u ... 44568.html



Even if the expulsion vote of Israel fails what would it mean if Prince Ali becomes president of FIFA? I'm undecided. All the Arab monarchies are more noxious than even Israel, though Jordan is the least pungent of the lot and Ali has done what little he can do as VP of FIFA, including repeatedly condemning the Zionists when they commit atrocities.

The man of the hour?

[Dukasaur]

Funny. When I heard that Blatter was friends with the KGB apparatchik in the Kremlin, and Ali has a clean bill of health from the CIA, I thought saxi might go the other way on this one.

I guess his maniacal hate for the Jews is even stronger than his obedience to his KGB masters.

[saxitoxin]

The New York Times reports that yesterday, when Israel's mouthpiece Tamir Gilat went to lobby a meeting of the African Football Union on the subject of the expulsion vote, one-third of the 56 nations walked out rather than listen to his lies. Good sign!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/29/world ... .html?_r=0

When I heard that Blatter was friends with the KGB apparatchik in the Kremlin, and Ali has a clean bill of health from the CIA, I thought saxi might go the other way on this one.

I'm definitely not supporting Prince Ali. I only note this is an interesting development.

EDIT - After reading President Putin's endorsement of Blatter today, I am now firmly rejecting Prince Ali and officially supporting Sepp Blatter's re-eleection.

[DoomYoshi]

So, you're going to be stuck for the rest of your life on a desert island. Who would you rather have with you (they are both your sister): Rachel Azaria or Merav Michaeli?

show: Merav

show: Rachel

I think Merav is hotter, but that name is just too much. I'm sticking with Rachel.

[Dukasaur]

The New York Times reports that yesterday, when Israel's mouthpiece Tamir Gilat went to lobby a meeting of the African Football Union on the subject of the expulsion vote, one-third of the 56 nations walked out rather than listen to his lies. Good sign!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/29/world ... .html?_r=0

When I heard that Blatter was friends with the KGB apparatchik in the Kremlin, and Ali has a clean bill of health from the CIA, I thought saxi might go the other way on this one.

I'm definitely not supporting Prince Ali. I only note this is an interesting development.

EDIT - After reading President Putin's endorsement of Blatter today, I am now firmly rejecting Prince Ali and officially supporting Sepp Blatter's re-eleection.

[waauw]

I don't support either. Blatter has done a terrible job until now and I don't like Ali purely because he seems to receive the FBI's support.
Putin is probably right when suspecting the americans to have political motives behind all of this.

ps: "Clinton Foundation took at least $1,250,000 from Qatar and World Cup committee embroiled in soccer bribery scandal - and up to $100,000 from FIFA itself"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3099839/Clinton-Foundation-took-1-250-000-Qatar-World-Cup-committee-implicated-FIFA-bribery-scandal.html
Something more seems to be going on.

[DoomYoshi]

his name is fucking stepladder. stop calling him that commie crap name.

[GabonX]

None of that affirms your argument, or is relevant in disputing the Nazi connection to Palestinian nationalism.

Palestinian nationalism is irrelevant to what we're discussing here:

That's because you refuse to acknowledge the actual connection between Nazism and the Palestinian attempt to extend the Holocaust to the Middle East and instead start discussing a completely different group whenever it's brought up. The relationship is completely indefensible and that's why you can't address it head on.

The Palestinian issue was brought up first every time, this time a few posts ago just under the top of this page, and you dodge the issue by bringing up something unrelated. Anyone who reads back just a few posts will see that this is the case here.

the Lehi Gang's attempted collaboration with the Nazis and its brutal murder of British woman and children for the sake of a genetically-pure paradise they achieved. Do you and your pastor agree with Israel's 2015 policy of continuing to award "Lehi Ribbons" to veterans of the Lehi Gang for blowing the limbs off little British boys and girls? Why do you keep dodging, GabonX?

Lehi wasn't awarded medals for "targeting British women and children." The British blocked Jewish groups in Israel from saving their peers from German concentration camps and Lehi fought the British because of that. Israel is hardly the only country to have fought Britain for their independence, and trying to free people from the Holocaust seems as good a cause as any. There's no reason to slander Israel based on exaggerated claims against one of the smaller of several groups in Israel at the time.

The alliance between Nazi Germany and Palestine was real and heinous while the understanding between Germany and Lehi never got off the ground for obvious reasons.

[patches70]

The alliance between Nazi Germany and Palestine was real and heinous while the understanding between Germany and Lehi never got off the ground for obvious reasons.

Sheesh, Gabonx, this is what, almost 75 years ago? Because of this you think its all right for the Israeli's to subjugate and lock all the Palestinians in a modern version of a concentration camp?

Not only that, but you are misunderstaning the nature of this so called "alliance". The Palestinians and the Germans at the time had the same enemies- Jews, the English and communists. Have you ever heard the saying "the enemy of my enemy"? That's what it was.

But its all ancient history. The Holocaust doesn't give Israel carte blanche to do what ever she wants to the Palestinians. Such blind fanaticism (and there is plenty of it on both sides) is ultimately counter productive.

In current events, I'm tired of Israel trying to lead my nation into wars that benefit her at our expense and blood. In more recent news, the President of Israel gave a speech at the UN and claimed that Iran was six months away from having a working atomic bomb. Do you remember that, GabonX? I'd be surprised if you did because that was way back in 1990. Iran has apparently been six months away from nuking Israel for over 25 years now. Its bullshit. Israel lobbies our Congressional representatives to beat the war drums and trick the American people yet again into going into a war to stop WMD's. Its. All. Bullshit.

And that FIFA mess, according to the DOJ this corruption has been going on for several generations of FIFA leadership. Yet, they wait until FIFA starts busting Israel's balls to bring down the hammer? According to our illustrious AG, these FIFA scumbags have been hurting youth soccer leagues and other innocent victims, and yet they don't do shit until Israel tells the DOJ to beat them down. The timing is just a coincidence I suppose. Its like "f*ck the youth soccer leagues, they're fucking with Israel now! Time to give them a good slap down."
And yet, the five big banks just two weeks ago paid a fine of $5 billion (yes, BILLION) dollars because they were manipulating global currency rates! Holy shit, where are the indictments for that shit? The fine was $5 billion but I can guarantee you that a shitload more money was made by these banks because they were committing FRAUD AND ALL THEY DO IS PAY A FINE?

f*ck that noise, man. f*ck Israel, f*ck Palestine, f*ck the middle east, f*ck Europe, its time for the US to start looking out for herself instead of looking out for transnationals. The Tranzies are the bane of human civilization and here you are, Gabonz, focusing on some long dead failed facist. You'd be better off looking at the facists who are running things today, right now. We need to disentangle ourselves from these foreign spats that are none of our concern. We getting into the mix only makes the situation that much more dangerous for everyone. Because when the US comes to bring the pain that's when a whole lot of people, innocent or otherwise, get killed by the bucket full.