rMoney commits felony

[BigBallinStalin]

There's plenty of laws in the US which no one enforces because they're inconsequential, or because there's more valuable laws to enforce. In New Orleans, it's illegal to practice voodoo in the city limits, and it's also illegal to murder people. Which law should be enforced with more resources? The relative consequences do matter, and that's completely evident with law enforcement and the use of such resources.

Since resources for enforcing law and order are scarce, then it makes sense to place a priority on enforcing the law in regard to the consequences of any crime. Of course, the court should be involved with Romney and this allegation. However, the reactions among people is telling. They'll jump on something so minor, and completely overlook their Main Man when he kills innocent civilians.

That some crimes get overlooked ain't a good reason to ignore a crime. Nor is it a good idea to dismiss a potential felony on the basis of the idea that someone he's competing against politically might well be getting away with something worse.

I'm surprised to see BigBallinStalin so up in arms about this, when I don't remember his angst about the anti-Obama stuff of similar (or worse) nature. While at the same time talking about how hypocritical people are about it.

Would you mind being more specific? That might help your accusation.

[Symmetry]

There's plenty of laws in the US which no one enforces because they're inconsequential, or because there's more valuable laws to enforce. In New Orleans, it's illegal to practice voodoo in the city limits, and it's also illegal to murder people. Which law should be enforced with more resources? The relative consequences do matter, and that's completely evident with law enforcement and the use of such resources.

Since resources for enforcing law and order are scarce, then it makes sense to place a priority on enforcing the law in regard to the consequences of any crime. Of course, the court should be involved with Romney and this allegation. However, the reactions among people is telling. They'll jump on something so minor, and completely overlook their Main Man when he kills innocent civilians.

That some crimes get overlooked ain't a good reason to ignore a crime. Nor is it a good idea to dismiss a potential felony on the basis of the idea that someone he's competing against politically might well be getting away with something worse.

I'm surprised to see BigBallinStalin so up in arms about this, when I don't remember his angst about the anti-Obama stuff of similar (or worse) nature. While at the same time talking about how hypocritical people are about it.

Would you mind being more specific? That might help your accusation.

I think that he too noticed the big problem with your argument, that your problems with a another career pol and what he should or shouldn't be charged with are kind of irrelevant to the question.

[Night Strike]

The New York Times (hardly a conservative source) and a CNN analyst have also concluded that there is no evidence of wrongdoing by Romney under these accusations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/when-did-romney-step-back-from-bain-its-complicated.html

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/16/opinion/gergen-bain-romney/index.html

[BigBallinStalin]

There's plenty of laws in the US which no one enforces because they're inconsequential, or because there's more valuable laws to enforce. In New Orleans, it's illegal to practice voodoo in the city limits, and it's also illegal to murder people. Which law should be enforced with more resources? The relative consequences do matter, and that's completely evident with law enforcement and the use of such resources.

Since resources for enforcing law and order are scarce, then it makes sense to place a priority on enforcing the law in regard to the consequences of any crime. Of course, the court should be involved with Romney and this allegation. However, the reactions among people is telling. They'll jump on something so minor, and completely overlook their Main Man when he kills innocent civilians.

That some crimes get overlooked ain't a good reason to ignore a crime. Nor is it a good idea to dismiss a potential felony on the basis of the idea that someone he's competing against politically might well be getting away with something worse.

I'm surprised to see BigBallinStalin so up in arms about this, when I don't remember his angst about the anti-Obama stuff of similar (or worse) nature. While at the same time talking about how hypocritical people are about it.

Would you mind being more specific? That might help your accusation.

I think that he too noticed the big problem with your argument, that your problems with a another career pol and what he should or shouldn't be charged with are kind of irrelevant to the question.

What's the question? Because it seems that we've been answering two different questions.

[bedub1]

The New York Times (hardly a conservative source) and a CNN analyst have also concluded that there is no evidence of wrongdoing by Romney under these accusations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/when-did-romney-step-back-from-bain-its-complicated.html

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/16/opinion/gergen-bain-romney/index.html

The NY Times article doesn't discuss any of my points. The CNN piece is an OPINION piece by one of the previous heads of Bain Capital. Neither is a credible source.

[Symmetry]

The New York Times (hardly a conservative source) and a CNN analyst have also concluded that there is no evidence of wrongdoing by Romney under these accusations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/when-did-romney-step-back-from-bain-its-complicated.html

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/16/opinion/gergen-bain-romney/index.html

The NY Times article doesn't discuss any of my points. The CNN piece is an OPINION piece by one of the previous heads of Bain Capital. Neither is a credible source.

What a surprise from NS. And yeah, I read them too. The NY piece is sharp, but doesn't do what it NS says it does, and you're spot on his citing of the CNN piece. It's opinion, and NS shouldn't be using it as if it was fact.

[Night Strike]

The New York Times (hardly a conservative source) and a CNN analyst have also concluded that there is no evidence of wrongdoing by Romney under these accusations:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/16/us/politics/when-did-romney-step-back-from-bain-its-complicated.html

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/16/opinion/gergen-bain-romney/index.html

The NY Times article doesn't discuss any of my points. The CNN piece is an OPINION piece by one of the previous heads of Bain Capital. Neither is a credible source.

What a surprise from NS. And yeah, I read them too. The NY piece is sharp, but doesn't do what it NS says it does, and you're spot on his citing of the CNN piece. It's opinion, and NS shouldn't be using it as if it was fact.

Except what the Obama campaign has put out is also opinion. If they really believed a felony was committed, Eric Holder would have excitedly brought charges against Romney. Instead, they published their attacks in campaign speeches and ads. Therefore, it is their opinion that a felony was committed, there is no factual evidence that a felony was committed.

[AndyDufresne]

I have a feeling that Romney wasn't born here.


--Andy

[bedub1]

Romney is not my guy.

This is just a non issue. Simple as that

You remind me of the Wizard from The Wizard of Oz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE

[Woodruff]

There's plenty of laws in the US which no one enforces because they're inconsequential, or because there's more valuable laws to enforce. In New Orleans, it's illegal to practice voodoo in the city limits, and it's also illegal to murder people. Which law should be enforced with more resources? The relative consequences do matter, and that's completely evident with law enforcement and the use of such resources.

Since resources for enforcing law and order are scarce, then it makes sense to place a priority on enforcing the law in regard to the consequences of any crime. Of course, the court should be involved with Romney and this allegation. However, the reactions among people is telling. They'll jump on something so minor, and completely overlook their Main Man when he kills innocent civilians.

That some crimes get overlooked ain't a good reason to ignore a crime. Nor is it a good idea to dismiss a potential felony on the basis of the idea that someone he's competing against politically might well be getting away with something worse.

I'm surprised to see BigBallinStalin so up in arms about this, when I don't remember his angst about the anti-Obama stuff of similar (or worse) nature. While at the same time talking about how hypocritical people are about it.

Would you mind being more specific? That might help your accusation.

I'm not sure I could be more specific, to be honest.

[Phatscotty]

Salt Lake City was in serious danger of losing the 2002 Olympics. President Romney saved the Olympics from being moved to another country.

Yes, that created 10,000 of thousands of American jobs and generated billions in American revenue, and it was a genuine stimulus, not artificial.

This is what America needs right now.

[Woodruff]

First of all, I am very much not a James Carville fan. However, I have always considered him to be an extremely funny guy:

"The only person who has seen Romney's taxes is John McCain and he took one look and picked Sarah Palin."
-- James Carville, interviewed by CBS News.

[AndyDufresne]

Salt Lake City was in serious danger of losing the 2002 Olympics. President Romney saved the Olympics from being moved to another country.

Yes, that created 10,000 of thousands of American jobs and generated billions in American revenue, and it was a genuine stimulus, not artificial.

This is what America needs right now.

In a Romney presidency, every year will have an Olympics! It is his specialty, yes!


--Andy

[Juan_Bottom]

Salt Lake City was in serious danger of losing the 2002 Olympics. President Romney saved the Olympics from being moved to another country.

Yes, that created 10,000 of thousands of American jobs and generated billions in American revenue, and it was a genuine stimulus, not artificial.

This is what America needs right now.

1) As I already mentioned, the Salt Lake City Games lost more money than they made. It was a bad investment.
(Spain was the last country to see positive growth from hosting the Olympics.)

2) The Salt Lake City games were full of scandals. The City/Olympic Committee/Mitt Romney openly bribed Olympic officials. They gave them vacations, paid for their children's education, tickets to the Oscars, ETC.

3) Mitt Romney was involved in an Olympic Scandal in that he approved of American Uniforms made cheaply overseas by Burmese slave labor.


This is not what America needs now.

[spurgistan]

I have a feeling that Romney wasn't born here.


--Andy

Where is Orly Taitz when you need her?

[Phatscotty]

Salt Lake City was in serious danger of losing the 2002 Olympics. President Romney saved the Olympics from being moved to another country.

Yes, that created 10,000 of thousands of American jobs and generated billions in American revenue, and it was a genuine stimulus, not artificial.

This is what America needs right now.

1) As I already mentioned, the Salt Lake City Games lost more money than they made. It was a bad investment.
(Spain was the last country to see positive growth from hosting the Olympics.)

2) The Salt Lake City games were full of scandals. The City/Olympic Committee/Mitt Romney openly bribed Olympic officials. They gave them vacations, paid for their children's education, tickets to the Oscars, ETC.

3) Mitt Romney was involved in an Olympic Scandal in that he approved of American Uniforms made cheaply overseas by Burmese slave labor.


This is not what America needs now.

Tell that to all the people who got work in the numerous stadiums for security, concessions, construction, tv rites, parking attendants and revenues from that, and about a hundred other kinds of jobs that were created.

Romney took over the Olympics because of the previous bribery.

and Romney was too busy running Bane to notice where the uniforms were made

[Woodruff]

This is not what America needs now.

Tell that to all the people who got work in the numerous stadiums for security, concessions, construction, tv rites, parking attendants and revenues from that, and about a hundred other kinds of jobs that were created.

Yes, we definitely need more minimum-wage, temporary jobs.

and Romney was too busy running Bane to notice where the uniforms were made

I saw some weird article where Rush Limbaugh is suggesting that Bane was created as a complement to Bain, Inc by the evil Hollywood liberals. <sigh>

[Phatscotty]

This is not what America needs now.

Tell that to all the people who got work in the numerous stadiums for security, concessions, construction, tv rites, parking attendants and revenues from that, and about a hundred other kinds of jobs that were created.

Yes, we definitely need more minimum-wage, temporary jobs.

and Romney was too busy running Bane to notice where the uniforms were made

I saw some weird article where Rush Limbaugh is suggesting that Bane was created as a complement to Bain, Inc by the evil Hollywood liberals. <sigh>

you have it backwards, but yes I saw it too

Creator of Batman Villain ‘Bane’ Calls Democrats’ Batman-Themed Attack on Romney ‘Ridiculous'

“It has been observed that movies can reflect the national mood,” said Democratic advisor and former Clinton aide Christopher Lehane. “Whether it is spelled Bain and being put out by the Obama campaign or Bane and being out by Hollywood, the narratives are similar: a highly intelligent villain with offshore interests and a past both are seeking to cover up who had a powerful father and is set on pillaging society,” he added.

As the Friday release date has neared, liberal blogs were the first to connect Batman‘s toughest foe with Romney’s firm. But now even some conservatives, concerned Romney isn’t fighting the Bain attacks hard enough, see a similarity in the epic DC Comics fight and the political campaign.

One person who is particularly unamused by the forced comparison is comic book writer Chuck Dixon, who created the character of Bane with Graham Nolan in the early 90s.

According to The Washington Times, Dixon responded to the news on his website’s message board:

“I saw it on FB like two hours ago. Ridiculous. Tho’ I got a cold feeling in the pit of my stomach that Rush (Limbaugh) may pick up on this. And that would be the second time he pegged me and Graham as liberals on his show.”

In another post, he wrote: “Overgrasping Dems? Hey, if it gets Obama supporters into theaters. Maybe they’ll buy thousands of Bane toys to throw at Romney. It all adds to MY Bane capital. I wonder if the Romney campaign will contact me?”

[Woodruff]

This is not what America needs now.

Tell that to all the people who got work in the numerous stadiums for security, concessions, construction, tv rites, parking attendants and revenues from that, and about a hundred other kinds of jobs that were created.

Yes, we definitely need more minimum-wage, temporary jobs.

and Romney was too busy running Bane to notice where the uniforms were made

I saw some weird article where Rush Limbaugh is suggesting that Bane was created as a complement to Bain, Inc by the evil Hollywood liberals. <sigh>

you have it backwards

Not according to Rush himself...http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/07/17/the_batman_campaign

[Phatscotty]

This is not what America needs now.

Tell that to all the people who got work in the numerous stadiums for security, concessions, construction, tv rites, parking attendants and revenues from that, and about a hundred other kinds of jobs that were created.

Yes, we definitely need more minimum-wage, temporary jobs.

Beggars can be choosers? Why you bein so picky?

A job is a job, and the companies that hired them did not fold up an cease to exist. The 2002 Olympics was also an opportunity for many who were working temporary jobs to make an impression and possibly be kept on with the company.

Also, all of those jobs created tax revenua, social security benefits, medicare and medicaid payments, as well as state taxes and permit and license fees and state sales taxes.

These jobs paid for themselves. We did not need to take money from anyone to create the jobs such as I described at the top of the post.

Real economic stimulus, real economic growth. It's what we need more than anything right now, and Obama is not only failing to lead in this area, but his lack of understanding economic issues makes Obama appear to be doing the opposite. This is exactly why we should never elect Senators to be president, and why we should stick with people who actually have executive experience, such as a CEO of a company, or a governor of a state.

[Woodruff]

This is not what America needs now.

Tell that to all the people who got work in the numerous stadiums for security, concessions, construction, tv rites, parking attendants and revenues from that, and about a hundred other kinds of jobs that were created.

Yes, we definitely need more minimum-wage, temporary jobs.

Beggars can be choosers? Why you bein so picky?

A job is a job, and the companies that hired them did not fold up an cease to exist.

Of course the COMPANY didn't fold up and cease to exist. But those jobs absolutely did. Which is all that matters.

Real economic stimulus, real economic growth.

Your idea of real economic growth is the Olympics losing money.

[Phatscotty]

This is not what America needs now.

Tell that to all the people who got work in the numerous stadiums for security, concessions, construction, tv rites, parking attendants and revenues from that, and about a hundred other kinds of jobs that were created.

Yes, we definitely need more minimum-wage, temporary jobs.

Beggars can be choosers? Why you bein so picky?

A job is a job, and the companies that hired them did not fold up an cease to exist.

Of course the COMPANY didn't fold up and cease to exist. But those jobs absolutely did. Which is all that matters.

Real economic stimulus, real economic growth.

Your idea of real economic growth is the Olympics losing money.

How do you continually miss I am talking about the people and the jobs? And not all of them folded up, like the tv networks for example.

All the matters, from my point of view, is that Romney kept the Olympics here in America when we were in danger of losing them and being embarrassed on a global level.

[Woodruff]

This is not what America needs now.

Tell that to all the people who got work in the numerous stadiums for security, concessions, construction, tv rites, parking attendants and revenues from that, and about a hundred other kinds of jobs that were created.

Yes, we definitely need more minimum-wage, temporary jobs.

Beggars can be choosers? Why you bein so picky?

A job is a job, and the companies that hired them did not fold up an cease to exist.

Of course the COMPANY didn't fold up and cease to exist. But those jobs absolutely did. Which is all that matters.

Real economic stimulus, real economic growth.

Your idea of real economic growth is the Olympics losing money.

How do you continually miss I am talking about the people and the jobs? And not all of them folded up, like the tv networks for example.

All the matters, from my point of view, is that Romney kept the Olympics here in America when we were in danger of losing them and being embarrassed on a global level.

No, all that matters, from your point of view, is that you think you can pimp Romney's actions as positive when they weren't particularly positive or negative. Otherwise, you wouldn't say stupid things like that.

[bedub1]

I think it's funny that Romney doesn't want to release his tax returns, because they will be used against him and make him look bad.

I have a feeling that he's probably committed tax fraud, and doesn't want an in-depth investigation into his finances. He probably joined in on the Amnesty program for individuals committing tax fraud with foreign accounts.

Basically, it boils down to rMoney being the absolutely worst candidate ever. He's so far out of touch the the common man, he's completely ignorant. He lives in his own little fantasy land, without a clue as to the plights of the common man. The only person worse was Santorum, because he wanted to turn America into the Iran of Christianity.

If you want more tax loopholes for the rich, if you want the financial sector to have less oversight and more stupidity, if you want mega-corporations to destroy America, if you want a representative that works for the 1%, vote for rMoney. If you want things more fair, more stable, less corrupt, and a representative that works for the 99%, don't vote for rMoney.

[Juan_Bottom]