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_sabotage_ wrote:Your criticisms are the smoke screens.
_sabotage_ wrote:So, are you ready for the next set of facts?
AndyDufresne wrote:_sabotage_ wrote:So far we have established that you are willing to ignore the obvious:
86 cameras facing the site of the crash, no video of a plane, verified by a signed affidavit from a CIA agent,
the first time in 2001 where an errant plane was not intercepted, 67 planes had been intercepted up to this point in 2001 but none on this day, even an hour after the first plane struck the WTC,
The missile battery system of both the Pentagon and White House failed to respond to a threat, only possible if the threat gave off a friendly signal.
Willing to ignore science:
A 5m hole cannot fit a Boeing 757, and since no key parts, such as the engines, were found outside, they must be somewhere, the initial response was that they vaporized, when this was proven physically impossible, they suddenly discovered the missing pieces inside, 3 years later. Testimony given the day after the event was suddenly changed three years later, obviously a person's memory does improve with time.
Willing to ignore evidence:
The fact that the flight path has been proven impossible, that the instructor's claim the pilot could not handle a plane.
Willing to obfuscate:
The warnings Bush received and the correlation of a change in plane intercept policy.
So, up to now, you have ignored key facts and challenged in minutiae relating facts. You have provided no scientific backing, testimony, or evidence, but have simple said there are alternatives. You haven't provided alternatives and in fact have substantiated a theory of an inside job with the only fact that you have provided.
You feel that reading the works of those who gained most from an inside job is the only relevant source of information and discarded contrary info produced by experts with nothing to gain but who have suffered in producing the evidence.
So, are you ready for the next set of facts?
BBS: OH! SO YOU WANNA SETTLE THIS IRRATIONALLY?!
_sabotage_ wrote:
The warnings Bush received ...
rdsrds2120 wrote:Andy, BBS, you're foolish statements make Deepak Chopra cry.
It's time to wake up America
BMO
saxitoxin wrote:The warnings Bush received ...
Yeah, this is how conspiracy theories work.
A mundane fact (Bush was warned Al Qaeda might attack some unspecified location in the United States using some unspecified means at some point in the unspecified future) gets shortened to a caught-red-handed gotcha (Bush was warned of 9/11). Then, several of the gotchas are piled on top of each other to create an, apparently, common sense conclusion.
AndyDufresne wrote:rdsrds2120 wrote:Andy, BBS, you're foolish statements make Deepak Chopra cry.
It's time to wake up America
BMO
Guys, I think RDS is onto something. Look at the map. There are 50 states, plus Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic (?) for obvious reasons. Now, that makes a total of 52. 52...what so special about 52? Just look a little closer.
52 is the 5th Bell number. Bell numbers are important because mathematicians say so. Now, mathematicians are a form of scientists who use numbers and geometry and money, and junk, to investigate the world and to better understand it, and junk.
Now, scientists, we all know, can't be trusted. Especially Darwin. But there is one scientist we can trust, Einstein. But what's Einstein's connection to all of this? Einstein predicted that RDS would be here at this very moment telling us about important information. Sufficient evidence can be found in this unaltered photo:
As we can all see, clearly Einstein has scribbled this equation: "R" and "D" and a backward "S" (to throw off his contemporary counterparts) thus ensuring the message would ONLY be understood by us at the right time, and moment in history (NOW).
I think it is safe to say, RDS is the messiah, as foretold by Einstein, and his words should MUST be heeded.
--Andy
_sabotage_ wrote:I see, so now it is Saxitoxin who is choosing to ignore all solid evidence and focus on a single point that is open to interpretation.
Excellent.
Please answer why the flight data provided doesn't correspond with the official account provided. Why does the data show a different take off gate than was actually used by flight 77?
I have already presented several varifiable, irrefutable hard facts that show that 9/11 could not have happened according to the official account, all are ignored.
These facts point to an inside job individually and collectively. If you wish to post here saying contrary it would be pertinent that you address these facts or your points remain unsubstantiated ideological willful ignorance.
it was presented as evidence supporting the initial post stating that believing Bush had prior knowledge
_sabotage_ wrote:Of course. The first piece of evidence, the NYTimes article was not presented as evidence of an inside job, it was presented as evidence supporting the initial post stating that believing Bush had prior knowledge was a conspiracy theory.
saxitoxin wrote:When you go to court, they don't take all your evidence, put it in a box, weigh it, and whoever has the heaviest box wins.
AndyDufresne wrote:rdsrds2120 wrote:Andy, BBS, you're foolish statements make Deepak Chopra cry.
It's time to wake up America
BMO
Guys, I think RDS is onto something. Look at the map. There are 50 states, plus Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic (?) for obvious reasons. Now, that makes a total of 52. 52...what so special about 52? Just look a little closer.
52 is the 5th Bell number. Bell numbers are important because mathematicians say so. Now, mathematicians are a form of scientists who use numbers and geometry and money, and junk, to investigate the world and to better understand it, and junk.
Now, scientists, we all know, can't be trusted. Especially Darwin. But there is one scientist we can trust, Einstein. But what's Einstein's connection to all of this? Einstein predicted that RDS would be here at this very moment telling us about important information. Sufficient evidence can be found in this unaltered photo:
As we can all see, clearly Einstein has scribbled this equation: "R" and "D" and a backward "S" (to throw off his contemporary counterparts) thus ensuring the message would ONLY be understood by us at the right time, and moment in history (NOW).
I think it is safe to say, RDS is the messiah, as foretold by Einstein, and his words should MUST be heeded.
--Andy
jonesthecurl wrote:Now they want us to think this was just a joke...
saxitoxin wrote:Awhile ago I went to some 9/11 Truth presentation. It started with an "UNEDITED!" video being shown, played over a bed of spooky synthesizer music. At the time I wondered: why does the "RAW DATA!" always come with spooky synthesizer music?
it was presented as evidence supporting the initial post stating that believing Bush had prior knowledge
Yeah, as previously noted, it only does that if the summary of the article is kept as vague as possible (i.e. "had prior knowledge" instead of "had prior knowledge that something would happen somewhere at sometime, someway").
_sabotage_ wrote:I've already addressed this.
You haven't provided a single piece of evidence validating your official story theory, you haven't even stated you believe the official theory.
If you would like, for example, to base the fact that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon based on the flight data provided, please say so.
If you would like to base it on video evidence of the 80 + cameras focused on the site, please do so.
If you would like to base it on the physical evidence at the site, please do so.
If you would like to base it on procedure, please do so.
Please provide a single piece of evidence along with a theory that it supports. Otherwise you are just being a critic.
_sabotage_ wrote:You haven't provided a single piece of evidence validating your official story theory,
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