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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:58 pm

I'm VERY excited by the latest news.

There are reports that, after Odessa falls, Belarus will intervene ... but the Belarussians will not try to take Ukrainian territory - it gets even better! Belarus may cut a fast swath south and attack Moldova in concert with the Transnistrian army! A Belarus attack on Moldova endorsed by Russia will probably proceed without much credible local resistance since 1/3 of the population is Russian speaking.

If this is true, it means Russia is not planning on just giving Ukraine a bloody nose and taking the Donbas then leaving. It means President Putin is committed to a fundamental and time-changing realignment of the borders of the Sarmatic Plain. SAXI ENDORSES.

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:54 pm

saxi acts like pictures of Putin with cute animals changes ANYTHING. That is another post full of saxi obfuscations. PERIOD.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Maxleod on Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:58 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:saxi acts like pictures of Putin with cute animals changes ANYTHING. That is another post full of saxi obfuscations. PERIOD.


Animal instinct doesn't lie, JP.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:20 pm

Maxleod wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:saxi acts like pictures of Putin with cute animals changes ANYTHING. That is another post full of saxi obfuscations. PERIOD.


Animal instinct doesn't lie, JP.


Those pictures are more Fake News by saxi.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:51 pm

First, to those who say the Russian Army is doing terribly --- it's been one week. During the Iraq War, it took the US/UK/France three weeks to reach Baghdad. And Iraq wasn't getting a constant stream of weapons flown in.

Anyway, here is a battle map circulating on a Russian Telegram channel I found. Blood red areas are under Russian control while striped red areas are areas of active combat operations. Note that - related to my previous post - forces have already crossed the Transistria-Ukraine border. Whose are these? Russian or Transistrian? I don't know, I don't speak Russian. It appears, however, they're trying to take the coasts and cleave Ukraine in two by connecting their southern-driving columns from the North, and their northern-driving columns from the South. Once those columns meet, the eastern interior will be starved of outside assistance and will surrender.

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If this comes to fruition, and I'm certain it will, you'll then have a landlocked rump state in Western Ukraine (which has no natural resources) based in Lviv. The per capita GDP of Ukraine right now is $3500. I would warrant the per capita GDP of a landlocked Western Ukraine rump state will be $2500. The poorest EU state (Bulgaria) has a per capita GDP of $11,150. And Ukraine has a population of 40 million, not 7 million like Bulgaria. Unless the EU thinks it can handle an absolute deluge of Ukrainian workers driving up unemployment and driving down wages, the Ukrainian rump state will never be joining the EU. And if it doesn't join the EU, it will be permanently poor. And if it's permanently poor, it can have a bought-and-paid for government that ensures its neutrality.

Don't believe the Western propaganda. Putin knows exactly what he's doing.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby ConfederateSS on Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:47 am

--------------So, It has been verified...XI of China asked Putin to wait until after the Olympics, to invade Ukraine...I think everyone but the U.S./Biden administration already knew that....They kept saying , this is the day, this the day... Although keeping that up, It was bound to happen, The Biden Bunch , could say, see we told you...

----------Now everyone keeps saying , The mighty 40 mile long Russian column is stopped... What's wrong...Why are they stopped...???
---------------Have the great ones at the Pentagon , ever thought , or all the other experts...It could be part of the plan...
-----------------Instead of all the guesses what's going on....No food,fuel...
-------------- Putin could be getting ready to pound the crap out of Kiev from the air....Why would he want his troops near such a bombardment....
-------------- Or like Patton's Ghost Army...In England...made up of rubber tanks...To keep the Germans thinking , Normandy was just a trick , and the real attack was coming at The Pas de Callies ,the nearest way across the English Channel...

-------------Everyone is watching the 40 mile Convoy ....The Russians have broken through the South...They now can come up through the South to Kiev....Also turn East and Crush the Ukrainian forces...Take All the land East of the Dnipeer River....Make Peace... Leaving Most of Kiev and the West part of the River to Form the New Borders of Ukraine...Putin won't care if Ukraine joins the West... Because he will have the part of East of the River and land access to the Crimea...What he wanted all along...
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
-------------When the tides allow for safe landings....China will then invade Taiwan...The USA already recognizes The 2 Chinas as one...So there won't be Global condemnation...With Russia , USA , and China on the same page...
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:57 am

ConfederateSS wrote:--------------So, It has been verified...XI of China asked Putin to wait until after the Olympics, to invade Ukraine...I think everyone but the U.S./Biden administration already knew that....They kept saying , this is the day, this the day... Although keeping that up, It was bound to happen, The Biden Bunch , could say, see we told you...

----------Now everyone keeps saying , The mighty 40 mile long Russian column is stopped... What's wrong...Why are they stopped...???
---------------Have the great ones at the Pentagon , ever thought , or all the other experts...It could be part of the plan...
-----------------Instead of all the guesses what's going on....No food,fuel...
-------------- Putin could be getting ready to pound the crap out of Kiev from the air....Why would he want his troops near such a bombardment....
-------------- Or like Patton's Ghost Army...In England...made up of rubber tanks...To keep the Germans thinking , Normandy was just a trick , and the real attack was coming at The Pas de Callies ,the nearest way across the English Channel...

-------------Everyone is watching the 40 mi!e Convoy ....The Russians have broken through the South...They now can come up through the South to Kiev....Also turn East and Crush the Ukrainian forces...Take All the land East of the Dnipeer River....Make Peace... Leaving Most of Kiev and the West part of the River to Form the New Borders of Ukraine...Putin won't care if Ukraine joins the West... Because he will have the part of East of the River and land access to the Crimea...What he wanted all along...
... O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)
-------------When the tides allow for safe landings....China will then invade Taiwan...The USA already recognizes The 2 Chinas as one...So there won't be Global condemnation...With Russia , USA , and China on the same page...


Saxi's theory on the convoy is it's not intended for Kiev at all! I think they're marshalling it outside the city but aren't planning on moving it in. Once Kiev surrenders, they'll redeploy the convoy in a North-South axis along the west bank of the Dnieper River and just dig in there. That will become the new Line of Control with a Lviv-based regime running a rump state in the West, and a cooperative, Moscow-installed government controlling a rump state in the East. Kiev will be split between the two states a la West Berlin / East Berlin.

The only thing that sustained two Germanys during the Cold War was a high level of cultural segregation between East and West. The West is engineering that on its own by expelling Russian conductors, burning Russian books, expelling athletes, shutting down Russian TV stations, etc., so Russia doesn't even need to concern itself with that element. The West is unwittingly doing it for them. It's like Putin is playing 4D chess and Biden is playing checkers.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Qwert on Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:11 am

ConfederateSS wrote:--------------

-------------Everyone is watching the 40 mile Convoy ....The Russians have broken through the South...They now can come up through the South to Kiev....Also turn East and Crush the Ukrainian forces...Take All the land East of the Dnipeer River....Make Peace... Leaving Most of Kiev and the West part of the River to Form the New Borders of Ukraine...Putin won't care if Ukraine joins the West... Because he will have the part of East of the River and land access to the Crimea...What he wanted all along...
... O:) ...


Finally someone who thinking logically ,when you look provinces east from dnieper river and if you exclude Kyiv town,,, about 1/3 of population live there and 17% of total Ukrainian population are Russian. Dnieper river are natural barrier, so if Russian take that goal will have more easily defensive position. Geography eastern from dnieper river are much flat ground, and western from Dnieper are become more hills when you go toward Romania.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Pirlo on Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:57 am

It's claimed that Ukrainian forces are bombing their own people in the Donbass. I don't speak French and I cannot understand the details this reporter is providing in the video. I don't know this channel and I cannot tell if it's pro-Russia, but I doubt it.

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Pirlo on Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:14 am

Even literature might not survive the boycott insanity! :shock:

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:43 am

typical saxi: he posts something RIDICULOUS (Pukin' Putin with animals in Fake Photos); I challenge him; saxi moves on to a new idea in the same thread as he cannot refute my post. More Fake News by saxi, like I have said OFTEN.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:14 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:typical saxi: he posts something RIDICULOUS (Pukin' Putin with animals in Fake Photos); I challenge him; saxi moves on to a new idea in the same thread as he cannot refute my post.


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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:24 pm

saxi's last post is not a refutation, but MORE obfuscation, fake news, and Pukin' Putin Propaganda (IF this is a real photo from his files and NOT FAKE). ANOTHER failure by saxi-Troll

Don't forget that ACTIONS speaks louder than words and louder than words. What are the actions of the Butcher Pukin' Putin? HE only started a WAR and his forces are only killing people, while he allegedly pets deer and other furry animals....RIGHT...!
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Pirlo on Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:44 pm

Talking about pets, even cats are banned now! Some people are making themselves a joke :roll:

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:11 pm

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:24 pm

Sergey Naryshkin, director of the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), has just stated that the SVR "has evidence that Ukraine was developing nuclear weapons with the knowledge and support of the United States" and is preparing to present that evidence soon to the Security Council. This would constitute a direct violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty by both Ukraine and the United States and is an acceptable legal basis for a self-defense action on the part of Russia.

http://svr.gov.ru/smi/2022/03/direktor- ... raine-.htm

Before anyone dismisses that as mere propaganda, recall that "president" Zalynskyy came right out and said last month that the Ukes might get nukes.

http://uawire.org/zelensky-ukraine-may- ... ear-status

Meanwhile, Zoltan Posnar tells Bloomberg that the sanctions against Russia - which are inspiring it to seek alternative investment vehicles - would probably inspire other "at risk" countries like China to do the same and that the U.S. Government is risking the dollar's reserve currency status. If the dollar's reserve currency status goes, so does the entire American economy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -dominance

Within the next four weeks, things are going to turn very bad for Biden and - by extension - the United States.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby ConfederateSS on Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:29 pm

Qwert wrote:
ConfederateSS wrote:--------------

-------------Everyone is watching the 40 mile Convoy ....The Russians have broken through the South...They now can come up through the South to Kiev....Also turn East and Crush the Ukrainian forces...Take All the land East of the Dnipeer River....Make Peace... Leaving Most of Kiev and the West part of the River to Form the New Borders of Ukraine...Putin won't care if Ukraine joins the West... Because he will have the part of East of the River and land access to the Crimea...What he wanted all along...
... O:) ...


Finally someone who thinking logically ,when you look provinces east from dnieper river and if you exclude Kyiv town,,, about 1/3 of population live there and 17% of total Ukrainian population are Russian. Dnieper river are natural barrier, so if Russian take that goal will have more easily defensive position. Geography eastern from dnieper river are much flat ground, and western from Dnieper are become more hills when you go toward Romania.


------------Saxi you are kinda right....But Putin will have added the territory taken back to Russia...no puppet government...
------------Like Qwert also sees...That is why at the Peace talks.....The World will never let all of Ukraine be conquered....But the world...and Ukraine will be happy to end the bloodshed...Letting Russia reclaim the land East of the River, connecting the Crimea...Putin gets a win, saves face...The Ukraine still exisits...I don't know if Russia will also get Odessa, cut , Landlock the Ukraine from The Black Sea...Or how the world will allow that...That is what is left in this battle...Land locked or not...
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby bigtoughralf on Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:50 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Meanwhile, Zoltan Posnar tells Bloomberg that the sanctions against Russia - which are inspiring it to seek alternative investment vehicles - would probably inspire other "at risk" countries like China to do the same and that the U.S. Government is risking the dollar's reserve currency status. If the dollar's reserve currency status goes, so does the entire American economy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -dominance


Like when Trump banned Huawei from using Google's OS on their phones so Huawei just developed their own and used that instead.

Sanctions are at best stupid and at the worst cruel. Sanction a strong country and they'll just close the door on you. Sanction a weak country and the government will just dig in/the only people who suffer are regular citizens. Either way all you do is make yourself look like a bellend.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:24 pm

Disabled athletes have now been banned from the Paralympics on the basis of their Russian ethnicity/nationality.

These people think they're on the right side of history.

UPDATE: Disney+ has just removed Anastasia, a 1997 cartoon by an American director, with an American screenwriter, produced by an American company, and starring American actors Meg Ryan, John Cusack, and Kelsey Grammar. But its make-believe story is set in Russia. =D> =D> =D>

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Doc_Brown on Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:55 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Disney+ has just removed Anastasia, a 1997 cartoon by an American director, with an American screenwriter, produced by an American company, and starring American actors Meg Ryan, John Cusack, and Kelsey Grammar. But its make-believe story is set in Russia. =D> =D> =D>


https://whatsondisneyplus.com/anastasia ... disney-us/
With the start of a brand new month, Disney is often forced to remove some content from Disney+ in the United States due to pre-existing contracts made before Disney+ was created.
Unfortunately, this month, the classic animated film from 20th Century Studios, “Anastasia”, has been removed from Disney+ in the United States. However, the film is still available on Disney+ in other countries. This removal from Disney+ has nothing to do with the current crisis involving Ukraine and Russia.
“Anastasia” will be available on Starz from March 18th.

The film was only added onto Disney+ in the United States in December 2020, having previously been available on HBO Max.
Unfortunately, it’s unknown how long the film will be unavailable on Disney+ in the US, but once it has completed its contract with Starz, it will then return to Disney+.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby bigtoughralf on Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:19 pm

The general point still stands that Russian athletes, sports teams, performers, cats etc. are all still being banned from doing their jobs on the basis of their nationality.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:22 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:Image

Actual image of Putin leading his ground invasion


Now that Photo, Mookie, is NOT FAKE NEWS..! :D :lol: =D> Good one...! Be sure saxi the Troll-in-chief-at-CC sees this REAL NEWS.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:26 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Sergey Naryshkin, director of the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), has just stated that the SVR "has evidence that Ukraine was developing nuclear weapons with the knowledge and support of the United States" and is preparing to present that evidence soon to the Security Council. This would constitute a direct violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty by both Ukraine and the United States and is an acceptable legal basis for a self-defense action on the part of Russia.

http://svr.gov.ru/smi/2022/03/direktor- ... raine-.htm

Before anyone dismisses that as mere propaganda, recall that "president" Zalynskyy came right out and said last month that the Ukes might get nukes.

http://uawire.org/zelensky-ukraine-may- ... ear-status

Meanwhile, Zoltan Posnar tells Bloomberg that the sanctions against Russia - which are inspiring it to seek alternative investment vehicles - would probably inspire other "at risk" countries like China to do the same and that the U.S. Government is risking the dollar's reserve currency status. If the dollar's reserve currency status goes, so does the entire American economy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -dominance

Within the next four weeks, things are going to turn very bad for Biden and - by extension - the United States.


Be sure actually READ the info cited and referenced by saxi the Troll. It does not say what he SAYS it says:

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said at the Munich Security Conference that he would initiate consultations within the framework of the Budapest Memorandum.

If the summit of the countries participating in the Budapest Memorandum does not take place or does not provide Ukraine with security guarantees, the document will be recognized by Ukraine as invalid along with the points that were signed in 1994, the Ukrainian President said.

" The Minister of Foreign Affairs has been instructed to convene [consultations. If they do not take place again or their results do bring security guarantees for our country, Ukraine will have every right to believe that the Budapest Memorandum does not work, and all 1994 commitments will be called into question," the President of Ukraine said.

The Budapest Memorandum, signed on December 5, 1994, by Britain, Russia, the United States and Ukraine, provided guarantees of Ukraine's security and territorial integrity in exchange for Kyiv's surrendering of nuclear weapons. The document entered into force after Ukraine signed the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of nuclear weapons. Under this treaty, the signatory countries committed to respect the sovereignty of Ukraine, to refrain from the use of force against it.

After Russia annexed Ukrainian Crimea, the Ukrainian authorities proposed to repeal this document. In 2016, President Petro Poroshenko proposed to involve the signatories of the Budapest Memorandum in the negotiation process with Russia. In April 2019, Oleksandr Turchynov, who at that time held the post of secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, said that "nuclear disarmament was a historic mistake" of Ukraine. "The security guarantees given to us are not even worth the paper on which they were written," Turchynov said.


Who violated what agreement? Might it be Pukin' Putin, the Butcher of Ukraine?
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jimboston on Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:04 pm

Qwert wrote:
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Qwert wrote:
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Qwert wrote:So many say that bombarding Yugoslavia 1999 by NAto against any UN approval and then create new state braking teritorial integrity of other country will open pandora box where all other coutries territorial integrity will mean nothing and where any minority could ceded and create new countries.
US belive that only they have right to invade and create pupet states , its look that things are change now Russia learn from US how to invade and change regimes by force.
And we all know how US created allies in Afghanistan just been abandoned by US, left to be killed by Talibans. Not to mention how many weapons and military equipment left behind.


Are you trying to say you’re pro-Russian aggression?
Based on Putin’s threats against Sweden and Finland now too, I’d suggest you sit back and wait; Russian tanks may eventually come thank you for your support in person.


Are you trying to say your are pro -US aggression on Serbia?
Im not from Ukraine and im not from Russia to, Im from Serbia. Im only draw parallels between US and Russia, for me bout countries try to create pupet states.
Im not experience Russian aggression, but im experience 78 days of US aggression over my country. I try to explane to you that if US not respect other countries territorial integrity and use force to create puppet states, now suddenly people are surprised when Russia make same moves like US .
And US government are not honest in helping Ukraine, they impose sanctions who are not target oil and gas,, even today US buy every day 600k oil from Russia.
Germany send 5000 helmets military support???
Ukraine ask for help and what get ......nothing.


You may see some parallels between the Russian/Ukrainian situation and the situation in the former Yugoslavian States.
I’m sure you can focus on those similarities… but the fact is there are way more differences.

Can you give me differences?
And im talk about 1999 NATO Aggression on FR Yugoslavia , not to be confused with previous wars in Balkan .

Similarities

1.Kosovo Albanian minorities want to create own country on part of Serbian territory
Russian minorities in Donbas and Luhansk want to create own countries on part of Ukrainian territory

2.Albanians create paramilitary forces and start attack on police and army of Serbia
Russian create paramilitary forces and start attack on police and army of Ukraine

3.West propaganda create picture that 100000 Albanians was killed by Serbian forces (of course that was fake only serve for US to have reason for attack)
Russian propaganda create reports that Ukrainian forces bombard Donbas cities ( reason for Russia to attack Ukraine)

4.US-NAto attack sovereign country of Yugoslavia without UN approval
Russia attack sovereign country of Ukraine without UN approval

5.US-Nato after 78 days of heavy bombardment of mostly civilian targets( army had quite successful strategy to leave towns and hide they equipment) without UN approval occupy Kosovo province
Russia will probably occupy some parts of Ukraine without UN approval (its ongoing right now)

6.With US -NATO forces support and against UN resolution 1244 ( resolution who recognize Kosovo like part of Republic of Serbia) Kosovo declare independent from Serbia backed by western powers. As long Serbia refuse to recognize independent of Kosovo, these puppet state can not be full state recognize by UN.
(Now these are possible scenario for Ukraine) With Russian forces Doneck and Luhans will occupy administrative territories what belong to these Provinces . Russia will try to force Ukraine government to accept new reality and to recognize these two new country

I find similarities you give me differences


Your similarities are exaggerated. Minorities is the former Yugoslavia were persecuted, I’m not aware of ethnic Russian persecution… though I’m sure Russia is claiming as much. Your statement injmner 3 demonstrates your bias and shows you are blinded by your loyalties.

The US/NATO has no interest in annexing any parts of the former Yugoslavia.

Ukraine was formerly part of the USSR whereas Yugoslavia was never a part of USA.
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