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Re: New America,The LEFT Glory to Abortion and Suicide!

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:28 pm

Let's separate fact from opinion:

FACTS:

Here’s how: From 1787 and the ratification of the Constitution to 1973 — 186 years later — hundreds of Supreme Court justices neither found nor created an argument of stare decisis in the Constitution to defend a constitutional right to abortion. Why not? Because that right was not in the Constitution. In 1973 the court installed the right to abortion in the Constitution. That was a political, social intervention.

The right to abortion is NOT found in or guaranteed in the US Constitution. It is a "found" right based on the Right to Privacy BASED on the 14th amendment. Further truth: the US Constitution never mentions the word abortion. It does guarantee the rights to things as Free Speech, a Free Press, and the right to bear arms, as in the Bill of Rights (or the first Ten Amendments to the US Constitution).

Even the renowned Justice Ginsburg, before her death, said that the Roe decision was a bad interpretation of law. I already cited information about this very point on July 6, 2022.

Opinions:

Attempts to equate the "right to an abortion" with other rights, is bad logic and a weak argument.
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Re: New America,The LEFT Glory to Abortion and Suicide!

Postby jimboston on Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:55 am

jusplay4fun wrote:
jimboston wrote:Pascal’s Wager also has a couple logic flaws. First it’s presuming you’re options are limited to “God” and “No God”. It’s also presuming a Christian World View…. one could make the same argument for believing and any Religion. Yet you can’t believe (or act is if you believe) in EVERY religion just to “cover your ass” because some of those beliefs and actions will conflict.



As far as Pacal's Wager, I will take the logic of a known and intelligent thinker and mathematician over you or anyone else on CC on this matter. As I already said, your logic on this matter is flawed, so there is no point debating this issue as your mind is already made up. I will acknowledge that after my 3rd or more request on this matter that you finally offered some response.



This is the answer you give when you have no response.

So… based on your answer…I should just what? choose ANY religion?

A Muslim following the logic of Pascal’s Wager will continue to follow his religion and the Prophet Muhammed. Yet, according to most Christian Doctrine the only way to Heaven is through Jesus… by accepting Jesus as the One Son of God.

(A Muslim could convert to Christianity but doesn’t that then give the opposite result? Why are Christian’s “right” and Muslim’s “wrong?)

So you basically say what? Only Christians “win” if they accept Pascal’s Wager? All other “faiths” lose… and so the Majority of Humanity is doomed to never set foot inside the Kingdom of Heaven.

That’s not cool of God.
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Re: New America,The LEFT Glory to Abortion and Suicide!

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:20 pm

jimboston wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
jimboston wrote:Pascal’s Wager also has a couple logic flaws. First it’s presuming you’re options are limited to “God” and “No God”. It’s also presuming a Christian World View…. one could make the same argument for believing and any Religion. Yet you can’t believe (or act is if you believe) in EVERY religion just to “cover your ass” because some of those beliefs and actions will conflict.



As far as Pacal's Wager, I will take the logic of a known and intelligent thinker and mathematician over you or anyone else on CC on this matter. As I already said, your logic on this matter is flawed, so there is no point debating this issue as your mind is already made up. I will acknowledge that after my 3rd or more request on this matter that you finally offered some response.



Again, you totally misconstrued or misunderstood what I posted. I suspect that it is the former and not the latter. And I suspect you did so to try to annoy me. You failed on THREE levels or more with that post. TRY again.

This is the answer you give when you have no response.

So… based on your answer…I should just what? choose ANY religion?

A Muslim following the logic of Pascal’s Wager will continue to follow his religion and the Prophet Muhammed. Yet, according to most Christian Doctrine the only way to Heaven is through Jesus… by accepting Jesus as the One Son of God.

(A Muslim could convert to Christianity but doesn’t that then give the opposite result? Why are Christian’s “right” and Muslim’s “wrong?)

So you basically say what? Only Christians “win” if they accept Pascal’s Wager? All other “faiths” lose… and so the Majority of Humanity is doomed to never set foot inside the Kingdom of Heaven.

That’s not cool of God.
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