Non-VANILLA Game 3 *Game Over* 14 Winners

[Puff]

Because I keep forgetting and don't understand much of this particular game I am going to have to withdraw.

please replace me fircoal

[Aegnor]

Because I keep forgetting and don't understand much of this particular game I am going to have to withdraw.

please replace me fircoal

I don't see any point in replacing someone after almost 100 pages of game.

[red bull]

Also, I really don't think that missing two nights of kills is all that unlikely. We have no vanillas, so I think doc, roleblocker, unightkillable are pretty standard, and thats not counting other roles that can stop kills, like joat, untargetable, scum RB, GF protection, etc.

question why does primate keep coming after me ...... this the last post me made about me ..... why primate

[pancakemix]

Where is he anyway?

[red bull]

Where is he anyway?

he only comes in to fos me i guess

[Aegnor]

As I said, you seem to be picking the low-hanging fruits. And you're not the first person to suggest Puff is scum.

Basically, the point is this - despite your aggressive behavior, I have yet to see you make a case against anyone for which an existing case has not been made. I'm reasonably sure you're scum; my vote stands.

Alright, I'll vote Aimless for being eager to start a bandwagon on me, and for looking pretty scummy on day 2 as well.

[pancakemix]

So you pull another OMGUS move? I'm sorry, but your scumminess and Aimless' mad logic skills together are just too much.

Vote Aegnor.

[Aegnor]

So you pull another OMGUS move? I'm sorry, but your scumminess and Aimless' mad logic skills together are just too much.

Vote Aegnor.

Alright, do what you must. I still think Aimless is scum, he tried to cover himself pretty diligently on day 2, and he acted all aggressive starting this day. Looks scummy to me, and you pancake could be his fellow scum.

As I said before, keep in mind that most player at this point are scum. I wouldn't be surprised if you two are trying to pull a quick lynch to have an overwhelming advantage at this point.

[pancakemix]

Impossible. If there were more mafia than town, mafia would have already won.

[Aegnor]

Impossible. If there were more mafia than town, mafia would have already won.

Need I remind you that we lynched the cop on day 1, and from there on the only scum kill was jnd? (Hitman being the SK)

[pancakemix]

First, SK is still considered scum.

Second, the mafia's objective is to become the majority. If that is accomplished, without any other killing roles in place, mafia win. Since that has not occurred, there are less mafia than town.

[Aegnor]

Maybe at this point the mafia does not outnumber the townies (otherwise they would have lynched us one by one with the majority of votes), but losing another townie will put them in a dangerous position.

[red bull]

First, SK is still considered scum.

Second, the mafia's objective is to become the majority. If that is accomplished, without any other killing roles in place, mafia win. Since that has not occurred, there are less mafia than town.

wrong sk is not scum they are there own team by them self

[red bull]

Maybe at this point the mafia does not outnumber the townies (otherwise they would have lynched us one by one with the majority of votes), but losing another townie will put them in a dangerous position.

if there were more mafia the game would be over

[pancakemix]

SK is still bad. It kills townies for its win condition, therefore, it is scum.

[Aegnor]

Maybe at this point the mafia does not outnumber the townies (otherwise they would have lynched us one by one with the majority of votes), but losing another townie will put them in a dangerous position.

if there were more mafia the game would be over

True, but as we have already lost a considerable amount of townies up to this point, we can't afford losing any more by jumping on bandwagons.

[red bull]

SK is still bad. It kills townies for its win condition, therefore, it is scum.

ahh but it also can kill scum to win

[pancakemix]

This game started with 24. 15 alive plus 4 zombies= 19 people remaining. +2 for scum killed = 3 dead townies. That's a considerable amount by any standard.

[pancakemix]

i'm telling you, i haven't missed a kill. for some reason the people i want to kill don't die.

Its still scummy. (Yes, they are considered scum)

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Hitman's post is added for context.

[Aimless]

Your numbers are wrong, pancake. There are only 15 alive, including the zombies (or 11 alive, 4 zombies if you prefer stating it that way).

There were probably about 5 mafia to begin with, leaving us with 4. The SK is toast. So, 15 alive, probably 4 scum left. This gives us at least three more days to look for scum, assuming a lynch and a NK per day.

[pancakemix]

Zombies is faster than dead and alive, and it counts in a game where when you post can mean a lot.

I suppose I misinterpreted what that meant. It make more sense the way I put it though.

[Primate]

Your numbers are wrong, pancake. There are only 15 alive, including the zombies (or 11 alive, 4 zombies if you prefer stating it that way).

There were probably about 5 mafia to begin with, leaving us with 4. The SK is toast. So, 15 alive, probably 4 scum left. This gives us at least three more days to look for scum, assuming a lynch and a NK per day.

Yeah. I think 5 mafia too. 6 mafia feels more balanced, but a 6 man mafia group is very powerful just by virtue of being a large mafia group, and I'm not entirely sure I'd feel comfortable including one in a game under about 28 or so.

My personal gut says we began the game with 5 mafia, an sk, and something else anti-town independent of those two. Maybe some traitors, too, idk. Something along those lines.
@Redbull: I was suspicious of you?

[red bull]

@Redbull: I was suspicious of you?

WHY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Primate]

That's my point. I was never suspicious of you. When I reread the game, I didn't put you in my pro-town list, but I didn't think you especially scummy, either. You were pretty much just a nonentity. I don't think I've even mentioned you yet.

[red bull]

Also, I really don't think that missing two nights of kills is all that unlikely. We have no vanillas, so I think doc, roleblocker, unightkillable are pretty standard, and thats not counting other roles that can stop kills, like joat, untargetable, scum RB, GF protection, etc.

then whats this mean i and you keep saying i am scum there are other post but i dont feel like digging them up right now