What is the Democrat Party?

[thegreekdog]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/wal-mart- ... le/2511391

SOROS!!!

[Night Strike]

This is what happens when the government decides what needs to be produced: http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/target_8/Volt-no-jolt-LG-Chem-employees-idle

So you'll be voting for Gary Johnson then? If not, then you really don't have much to complain about.

I really hope Night Strike thinks about this hard before he responds.

If someone is as ardently anti-government-spending as Night Strike supposedly is, he should be outraged by not just this corporate welfare, but all corporate welfare, including corporate welfare supported by the Republicans.

I've already stated that actions like bailing out the banks were completely wrong.

[thegreekdog]

This is what happens when the government decides what needs to be produced: http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/target_8/Volt-no-jolt-LG-Chem-employees-idle

So you'll be voting for Gary Johnson then? If not, then you really don't have much to complain about.

I really hope Night Strike thinks about this hard before he responds.

If someone is as ardently anti-government-spending as Night Strike supposedly is, he should be outraged by not just this corporate welfare, but all corporate welfare, including corporate welfare supported by the Republicans.

I've already stated that actions like bailing out the banks were completely wrong.

That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.

[Night Strike]

That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.

How are you defining handouts, because I know the liberals define them as tax breaks, but I also know that you aren't a liberal?

[Woodruff]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/wal-mart-boss-sam-walton-funding-obama-big-time/article/2511391

SOROS!!!

f*ck Wal-Mart!!!!!

(Thanks for the lead-in.)

[thegreekdog]

That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.

How are you defining handouts, because I know the liberals define them as tax breaks, but I also know that you aren't a liberal?

I'm defining handouts by the following example: Industry X [the coal industry for Republicans, the solar industry for Democrats] spends a shit ton of money in lobbying and associated legal bribes to get Congress to pass a law providing tax deductions, credits, or other incentives that benefits Industry X. The tax benefits provided only benefit certain companies associated with Industry X (i.e. the big coal miner, not the small one; the connected solar industry company, not the one with a bunch of people who've never had dinner with the president). These are examples of handouts; or, more accurately, crony capitalist exchanges. Both major political parties do this on a regular basis. Both major political parties and their supporters hypocritically criticize the other party for doing it.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/wal-mart-boss-sam-walton-funding-obama-big-time/article/2511391

SOROS!!!

f*ck Wal-Mart!!!!!

(Thanks for the lead-in.)

I didn't even think about that before I posted. I was more showing how Democrats and Republicans are no different when it comes to crony capitalism.

[Night Strike]

That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.

How are you defining handouts, because I know the liberals define them as tax breaks, but I also know that you aren't a liberal?

I'm defining handouts by the following example: Industry X [the coal industry for Republicans, the solar industry for Democrats] spends a shit ton of money in lobbying and associated legal bribes to get Congress to pass a law providing tax deductions, credits, or other incentives that benefits Industry X. The tax benefits provided only benefit certain companies associated with Industry X (i.e. the big coal miner, not the small one; the connected solar industry company, not the one with a bunch of people who've never had dinner with the president). These are examples of handouts; or, more accurately, crony capitalist exchanges. Both major political parties do this on a regular basis. Both major political parties and their supporters hypocritically criticize the other party for doing it.

I support broad tax cuts that allow any business within that field to claim the tax credit if they choose to build or expand their operations. I do not support negative tax rates/subsidies that allow businesses to take more money from the government than the amount they've paid in. Keep more of the money you make, don't take away more money than you pay.

Although none of these debates would matter if we would actually switch to consumption taxes instead of taxing the actual work people and companies do.

[thegreekdog]

That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.

How are you defining handouts, because I know the liberals define them as tax breaks, but I also know that you aren't a liberal?

I'm defining handouts by the following example: Industry X [the coal industry for Republicans, the solar industry for Democrats] spends a shit ton of money in lobbying and associated legal bribes to get Congress to pass a law providing tax deductions, credits, or other incentives that benefits Industry X. The tax benefits provided only benefit certain companies associated with Industry X (i.e. the big coal miner, not the small one; the connected solar industry company, not the one with a bunch of people who've never had dinner with the president). These are examples of handouts; or, more accurately, crony capitalist exchanges. Both major political parties do this on a regular basis. Both major political parties and their supporters hypocritically criticize the other party for doing it.

I support broad tax cuts that allow any business within that field to claim the tax credit if they choose to build or expand their operations. I do not support negative tax rates/subsidies that allow businesses to take more money from the government than the amount they've paid in. Keep more of the money you make, don't take away more money than you pay.

Although none of these debates would matter if we would actually switch to consumption taxes instead of taxing the actual work people and companies do.

And does Mitt Romney support these positions? If so, what makes you think he does?

[Night Strike]

That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.

How are you defining handouts, because I know the liberals define them as tax breaks, but I also know that you aren't a liberal?

I'm defining handouts by the following example: Industry X [the coal industry for Republicans, the solar industry for Democrats] spends a shit ton of money in lobbying and associated legal bribes to get Congress to pass a law providing tax deductions, credits, or other incentives that benefits Industry X. The tax benefits provided only benefit certain companies associated with Industry X (i.e. the big coal miner, not the small one; the connected solar industry company, not the one with a bunch of people who've never had dinner with the president). These are examples of handouts; or, more accurately, crony capitalist exchanges. Both major political parties do this on a regular basis. Both major political parties and their supporters hypocritically criticize the other party for doing it.

I support broad tax cuts that allow any business within that field to claim the tax credit if they choose to build or expand their operations. I do not support negative tax rates/subsidies that allow businesses to take more money from the government than the amount they've paid in. Keep more of the money you make, don't take away more money than you pay.

Although none of these debates would matter if we would actually switch to consumption taxes instead of taxing the actual work people and companies do.

And does Mitt Romney support these positions? If so, what makes you think he does?

Romney supports the ending of capital gains taxes and cutting individual taxes, so it's at least a start. Hopefully Romney will do work to simplify the tax code as well as cut spending/deficit, which will allow a future president to take that further to a sales tax. Unfortunately, we're not going to just switch to a sales tax under one president. That's just reality.

[Woodruff]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/wal-mart-boss-sam-walton-funding-obama-big-time/article/2511391

SOROS!!!

f*ck Wal-Mart!!!!!

(Thanks for the lead-in.)

I didn't even think about that before I posted. I was more showing how Democrats and Republicans are no different when it comes to crony capitalism.

Yeah, I know. But still...f*ck Wal-Mart!!!!!

[Nobunaga]

... And they just keep on going - Assassinate Romney! We're going to riot!

... The best of the latest Democrat quips:

Someone tell this cracker get off Romney dick and assassinate his ass.

if romney win imma assassinate his aah

So they killed Biggie? They killed Pac? But can't assassinate this Roney nigga? Where the f*ck is the illuminati when you need em?

If someone just assassinate romney everything will go back as planned

... I wonder what plan she's talking about?

Sumbody need to assasinate mitt Romney ass Asap wtf he be TALKING ABT IS U CRAZY NIGGA U IS U CRAZY

If Romney get president I'll walk around sayin ill assassinate his mfkin ass... lfgaf. F*ck the police.

Romney just wanna make black people slaves again. That aint happening tho. I'll assassinate TF outta him for all of my niggas!

Romney need to just quit it he goint to die when he take away food stamps cause somebody gonna assassinate his ass.

Obama lose, I say we riot everywhere in America - Word

I'm going to buy a T-shirt for Riot Day November 6th

... Thinking ahead is good. This guy seems brighter than most of his fellows.

White Yoda Moderator Guy just said "Obama's Bin Laden". Should we riot or what?

... This cutie nailed it on Bob Scheiffer, though, don't you think? I wonder whose opinion she's asking... riot now? ... riot later? ...

But honestly if black ppl don't vote for Obama ignorant white ppl are going to ride are asses. Plus niggas might riot.

... Racist shits.

http://www.infowars.com/obama-supporter ... te-romney/

...

[Woodruff]

I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.

[Nobunaga]

I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.

... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.

... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.

...

[Woodruff]

I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.

... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.

... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.

...

I can't? Well, right now I'm listening to a REAL debate (as opposed to the farce from last night). But I find it laughable that you believe the equivalent toward Obama has not existed.

[Nobunaga]

I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.

... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.

... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.

...

I can't? Well, right now I'm listening to a REAL debate (as opposed to the farce from last night). But I find it laughable that you believe the equivalent toward Obama has not existed.

... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.

...

[Woodruff]

I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.

... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.

... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.

...

I can't? Well, right now I'm listening to a REAL debate (as opposed to the farce from last night). But I find it laughable that you believe the equivalent toward Obama has not existed.

... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.

...

You're using a very strange definition of "masses", but I suppose you think it helps your case if you pretend that these are untold numbers of Democrats or something.

[Woodruff]

I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.

... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.

... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.

...

I can't? Well, right now I'm listening to a REAL debate (as opposed to the farce from last night). But I find it laughable that you believe the equivalent toward Obama has not existed.

... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.
...

Interestingly, at least one of the examples I found in a very quick Google search was actually a very serious situation, as opposed to your examples...

http://gawker.com/5938288/leader-of-army-plot-to-assassinate-obama-apparently-attended-the-2008-republican-convention-as-a-page
http://thegrio.com/2012/09/07/ohio-teen-tweets-someone-needs-to-assassinate-obamalike-asap/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45342223/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/man-charged-trying-assassinate-obama/
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/publisher-regrets-suggesting-that-israel-assassinate-obama/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/17/us-usa-security-whitehouse-idUSTRE7AG29V20111117
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_assassination_scare_in_Tennessee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_threats_against_Barack_Obama

[thegreekdog]

I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.

... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.

... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.

...

I can't? Well, right now I'm listening to a REAL debate (as opposed to the farce from last night). But I find it laughable that you believe the equivalent toward Obama has not existed.

... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.
...

Interestingly, at least one of the examples I found in a very quick Google search was actually a very serious situation, as opposed to your examples...

http://gawker.com/5938288/leader-of-army-plot-to-assassinate-obama-apparently-attended-the-2008-republican-convention-as-a-page
http://thegrio.com/2012/09/07/ohio-teen-tweets-someone-needs-to-assassinate-obamalike-asap/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45342223/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/man-charged-trying-assassinate-obama/
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/publisher-regrets-suggesting-that-israel-assassinate-obama/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/17/us-usa-security-whitehouse-idUSTRE7AG29V20111117
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_assassination_scare_in_Tennessee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_threats_against_Barack_Obama

Notice two things:

(1) The names of the websites in Woodruff's list (NBC, ABC, reuters).
(2) The seriousness with which Obama threats were treated.

Compare to Romney threats. I'm just saying.

[Nobunaga]

... Woodruff gives me 7. I could give him a few hundred. And Greek makes the point - Infowars is the only place reporting this. Obama got the major news agencies and networks...

... I wonder why that is? ...

...

[Bones2484]

... Woodruff gives me 7. I could give him a few hundred. And Greek makes the point - Infowars is the only place reporting this. Obama got the major news agencies and networks...

... I wonder why that is? ...

...

If you're able to "give him a few hundred" then clearly other places must be reporting such threats.

[patrickaa317]

One threat or hundreds, they should all be treated seriously. I can't believe the discussion is who received more or when. Supposedly Obama has received twice as many as President Bush, and we all know how popular he was when he was in office. The vast majority of the people that would say or do something like this, is not the mainstream person in the opposite party.

I wish all people would grow up and not be so immature when a guy they don't like is running for office. And all these threats are taking time away from the security teams for both men.

[Woodruff]

... Woodruff gives me 7. I could give him a few hundred. And Greek makes the point - Infowars is the only place reporting this. Obama got the major news agencies and networks...

... I wonder why that is? ...

...

Perhaps because he's the God damn President, you fucking idiot. Perhaps because at least one with actual, serious plans involved, to be carried out by military personnel. Perhaps because it wasn't solely a bunch of internet loudmouths. Seriously, man. You're just making yourself look stupid here.

[Nobunaga]

... The latest Democrat election efforts.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Florid ... index.html

[Woodruff]

... The latest Democrat election efforts.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Florid ... index.html

Glad to hear they're investigating it. I hope whoever is perpetrating it is caught and convicted.

That being said...how stupid do you have to be to:

The FBI is joining an investigation into bogus letters sent to many Florida residents, including the Republican Party of Florida chairman, that raise questions about their eligibility to vote.

[Nobunaga]

... Woodruff gives me 7. I could give him a few hundred. And Greek makes the point - Infowars is the only place reporting this. Obama got the major news agencies and networks...

... I wonder why that is? ...

...

Perhaps because he's the God damn President, you fucking idiot. Perhaps because at least one with actual, serious plans involved, to be carried out by military personnel. Perhaps because it wasn't solely a bunch of internet loudmouths. Seriously, man. You're just making yourself look stupid here.

My, my. Read again please:

... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.

... Were your links post election? Your linked stories then are not comparable. So please, Woody, show me folks tweeting, message posting, etc.. en mass about killing then Senator Obama during the 2008 election. You won't find it, because though there may be a few nut jobs who would have said such a thing, the Dems hold a very strong majority when it comes to racism and hatred in this country... as evidenced by my earlier posts in this thread.

... Thank you.

...