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thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:Night Strike wrote:This is what happens when the government decides what needs to be produced: http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/target_8/Volt-no-jolt-LG-Chem-employees-idle
So you'll be voting for Gary Johnson then? If not, then you really don't have much to complain about.
I really hope Night Strike thinks about this hard before he responds.
If someone is as ardently anti-government-spending as Night Strike supposedly is, he should be outraged by not just this corporate welfare, but all corporate welfare, including corporate welfare supported by the Republicans.
Night Strike wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:Night Strike wrote:This is what happens when the government decides what needs to be produced: http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/target_8/Volt-no-jolt-LG-Chem-employees-idle
So you'll be voting for Gary Johnson then? If not, then you really don't have much to complain about.
I really hope Night Strike thinks about this hard before he responds.
If someone is as ardently anti-government-spending as Night Strike supposedly is, he should be outraged by not just this corporate welfare, but all corporate welfare, including corporate welfare supported by the Republicans.
I've already stated that actions like bailing out the banks were completely wrong.
thegreekdog wrote:That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.
thegreekdog wrote:http://washingtonexaminer.com/wal-mart-boss-sam-walton-funding-obama-big-time/article/2511391
SOROS!!!
Night Strike wrote:thegreekdog wrote:That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.
How are you defining handouts, because I know the liberals define them as tax breaks, but I also know that you aren't a liberal?
Woodruff wrote:thegreekdog wrote:http://washingtonexaminer.com/wal-mart-boss-sam-walton-funding-obama-big-time/article/2511391
SOROS!!!
f*ck Wal-Mart!!!!!
(Thanks for the lead-in.)
thegreekdog wrote:Night Strike wrote:thegreekdog wrote:That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.
How are you defining handouts, because I know the liberals define them as tax breaks, but I also know that you aren't a liberal?
I'm defining handouts by the following example: Industry X [the coal industry for Republicans, the solar industry for Democrats] spends a shit ton of money in lobbying and associated legal bribes to get Congress to pass a law providing tax deductions, credits, or other incentives that benefits Industry X. The tax benefits provided only benefit certain companies associated with Industry X (i.e. the big coal miner, not the small one; the connected solar industry company, not the one with a bunch of people who've never had dinner with the president). These are examples of handouts; or, more accurately, crony capitalist exchanges. Both major political parties do this on a regular basis. Both major political parties and their supporters hypocritically criticize the other party for doing it.
Night Strike wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Night Strike wrote:thegreekdog wrote:That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.
How are you defining handouts, because I know the liberals define them as tax breaks, but I also know that you aren't a liberal?
I'm defining handouts by the following example: Industry X [the coal industry for Republicans, the solar industry for Democrats] spends a shit ton of money in lobbying and associated legal bribes to get Congress to pass a law providing tax deductions, credits, or other incentives that benefits Industry X. The tax benefits provided only benefit certain companies associated with Industry X (i.e. the big coal miner, not the small one; the connected solar industry company, not the one with a bunch of people who've never had dinner with the president). These are examples of handouts; or, more accurately, crony capitalist exchanges. Both major political parties do this on a regular basis. Both major political parties and their supporters hypocritically criticize the other party for doing it.
I support broad tax cuts that allow any business within that field to claim the tax credit if they choose to build or expand their operations. I do not support negative tax rates/subsidies that allow businesses to take more money from the government than the amount they've paid in. Keep more of the money you make, don't take away more money than you pay.
Although none of these debates would matter if we would actually switch to consumption taxes instead of taxing the actual work people and companies do.
thegreekdog wrote:Night Strike wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Night Strike wrote:thegreekdog wrote:That's not really what I'm talking about and from what I've read, it appears you are voting for Mitt Romney, who I sincerely doubt will stop giving handouts to his corporate buddies.
How are you defining handouts, because I know the liberals define them as tax breaks, but I also know that you aren't a liberal?
I'm defining handouts by the following example: Industry X [the coal industry for Republicans, the solar industry for Democrats] spends a shit ton of money in lobbying and associated legal bribes to get Congress to pass a law providing tax deductions, credits, or other incentives that benefits Industry X. The tax benefits provided only benefit certain companies associated with Industry X (i.e. the big coal miner, not the small one; the connected solar industry company, not the one with a bunch of people who've never had dinner with the president). These are examples of handouts; or, more accurately, crony capitalist exchanges. Both major political parties do this on a regular basis. Both major political parties and their supporters hypocritically criticize the other party for doing it.
I support broad tax cuts that allow any business within that field to claim the tax credit if they choose to build or expand their operations. I do not support negative tax rates/subsidies that allow businesses to take more money from the government than the amount they've paid in. Keep more of the money you make, don't take away more money than you pay.
Although none of these debates would matter if we would actually switch to consumption taxes instead of taxing the actual work people and companies do.
And does Mitt Romney support these positions? If so, what makes you think he does?
thegreekdog wrote:Woodruff wrote:thegreekdog wrote:http://washingtonexaminer.com/wal-mart-boss-sam-walton-funding-obama-big-time/article/2511391
SOROS!!!
f*ck Wal-Mart!!!!!
(Thanks for the lead-in.)
I didn't even think about that before I posted. I was more showing how Democrats and Republicans are no different when it comes to crony capitalism.
DEMOCRAT 1 wrote:Someone tell this cracker get off Romney dick and assassinate his ass.
DEMOCRAT 2 wrote:if romney win imma assassinate his aah
DEMOCRAT 3 wrote:So they killed Biggie? They killed Pac? But can't assassinate this Roney nigga? Where the f*ck is the illuminati when you need em?
DEMOCRAT 4 wrote:If someone just assassinate romney everything will go back as planned
DEMOCRAT 5 wrote:Sumbody need to assasinate mitt Romney ass Asap wtf he be TALKING ABT IS U CRAZY NIGGA U IS U CRAZY
DEMOCRAT 6 wrote:If Romney get president I'll walk around sayin ill assassinate his mfkin ass... lfgaf. F*ck the police.
DEMOCRAT 7 wrote:Romney just wanna make black people slaves again. That aint happening tho. I'll assassinate TF outta him for all of my niggas!
DEMOCRAT 8 wrote:Romney need to just quit it he goint to die when he take away food stamps cause somebody gonna assassinate his ass.
DEMOCRAT 9 wrote:Obama lose, I say we riot everywhere in America - Word
DEMOCRAT 10 wrote:I'm going to buy a T-shirt for Riot Day November 6th
DEMOCRAT 11 wrote:White Yoda Moderator Guy just said "Obama's Bin Laden". Should we riot or what?
DEMOCRAT 12 wrote:But honestly if black ppl don't vote for Obama ignorant white ppl are going to ride are asses. Plus niggas might riot.
Woodruff wrote:I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.
Nobunaga wrote:Woodruff wrote:I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.
... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.
... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.
...
Woodruff wrote:Nobunaga wrote:Woodruff wrote:I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.
... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.
... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.
...
I can't? Well, right now I'm listening to a REAL debate (as opposed to the farce from last night). But I find it laughable that you believe the equivalent toward Obama has not existed.
Nobunaga wrote:Woodruff wrote:Nobunaga wrote:Woodruff wrote:I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.
... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.
... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.
...
I can't? Well, right now I'm listening to a REAL debate (as opposed to the farce from last night). But I find it laughable that you believe the equivalent toward Obama has not existed.
... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.
...
Nobunaga wrote:Woodruff wrote:Nobunaga wrote:Woodruff wrote:I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.
... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.
... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.
...
I can't? Well, right now I'm listening to a REAL debate (as opposed to the farce from last night). But I find it laughable that you believe the equivalent toward Obama has not existed.
... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.
...
Woodruff wrote:Nobunaga wrote:Woodruff wrote:Nobunaga wrote:Woodruff wrote:I definitely remember you complaining about this concerning Obama. Definitely.
... Haha. You can't show me a thing to compare and you know it.
... Check out the site, Woody, there's no end to the hate.
...
I can't? Well, right now I'm listening to a REAL debate (as opposed to the farce from last night). But I find it laughable that you believe the equivalent toward Obama has not existed.
... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.
...
Interestingly, at least one of the examples I found in a very quick Google search was actually a very serious situation, as opposed to your examples...
http://gawker.com/5938288/leader-of-army-plot-to-assassinate-obama-apparently-attended-the-2008-republican-convention-as-a-page
http://thegrio.com/2012/09/07/ohio-teen-tweets-someone-needs-to-assassinate-obamalike-asap/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45342223/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/man-charged-trying-assassinate-obama/
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/publisher-regrets-suggesting-that-israel-assassinate-obama/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/17/us-usa-security-whitehouse-idUSTRE7AG29V20111117
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_assassination_scare_in_Tennessee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_threats_against_Barack_Obama
Nobunaga wrote:... Woodruff gives me 7. I could give him a few hundred. And Greek makes the point - Infowars is the only place reporting this. Obama got the major news agencies and networks...
... I wonder why that is? ...
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Nobunaga wrote:... Woodruff gives me 7. I could give him a few hundred. And Greek makes the point - Infowars is the only place reporting this. Obama got the major news agencies and networks...
... I wonder why that is? ...
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Nobunaga wrote:... The latest Democrat election efforts.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Florid ... index.html
The FBI is joining an investigation into bogus letters sent to many Florida residents, including the Republican Party of Florida chairman, that raise questions about their eligibility to vote.
Woodruff wrote:Nobunaga wrote:... Woodruff gives me 7. I could give him a few hundred. And Greek makes the point - Infowars is the only place reporting this. Obama got the major news agencies and networks...
... I wonder why that is? ...
...
Perhaps because he's the God damn President, you fucking idiot. Perhaps because at least one with actual, serious plans involved, to be carried out by military personnel. Perhaps because it wasn't solely a bunch of internet loudmouths. Seriously, man. You're just making yourself look stupid here.
Nobunaga wrote:... Show me tweets, show me message board postings, show me interviews, whatever, where masses declare the need to assassinate Obama and to riot if he wins... and I will agree with you.
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