thegreekdog wrote:You seem to care about your reputation and your position regarding this issue and that's pretty much it.
Yeah.... that's why you start a thread like this.
You've obviously been emotionally compromised, as I was when BBS attacked the Holocaust, but I've never tried to offend you personally like he was doing. I do know what that's like; So I'm sorry for that.
thegreekdog wrote:Wait - are you the victim or are Holocaust victims the victims? I care about Holocaust victims. I care about people who lost family members to the Holocaust. You seem to care about your reputation and your position regarding this issue and that's pretty much it.
My grandfather died on his couch. That whole week before he died each time he went to sleep he woke up in a start begging us to help him find his sister who was abducted by the Nazis those many years before. His mind was back in Norway in 1940. He'd start yelling at us in Norwegian, then switch to English. If you did care about the victims of the Holocaust, then why were you making jokes about it where everyone would see them?
Do I keep to myself on the topic of religion? Have I ever said anything worse in secret than I've said in this thread about Catholicism? You wont even address the issue that that is where your problem with me stems from.
I haven't got an issue with you,
You weren't my target.
I don't even care about it.
I could be way more vicious with you if I cared. I'm not DM & I don't care about this. I ain't even mad.
I've got an issue with BBS because he used the Holocaust as a weapon to attack me personally in the last page of that thread, and he's been rubbing it under my nose ever since. And you've encouraged him whether you recognize that or not.
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You yourself said in this thread that the Catholic Church has not been doing a good job at investigating child abuse... the Church doesn't recognize earthy authority? They're out of our control. And by participating in their services and giving your money to the church you are participating in the church's protection of pedophiles. I'm not afraid to address the issues... you're so butthurt mad but you refuse to speak in anything but innuendo.
thegreekdog wrote:It has nothing to do with caring about the underlying issue.
Yes it does. When you care about people, you care about their lives and their pains. That means you live by the rule every moment of everyday and nobody has to tell you to stop being an ass. Jesus didn't only care about those suffering in front of him. You didn't even care about generalrisk having to play games with people who used SS insignia. So you don't care. Stop pretending like you do and just own up to it.
And before you start - I only care so much as reason allows.... I care when you insult someone or hurt them with something that is out of their control (like with the totenkopf). Your financial support of pedophilia is well within your control.
thegreekdog wrote: You treated me like shit.
I never attacked you personally. I don't even understand why you're so mad. You can't seem to articulate it other than "you said bad things about Catholics, you bigot." I mean-ah, here you guys were laughing at the Holocaust, and I was able to exactly articulate why you should shut up, not that I should have had to. And even I never called any of you bigots.
And besides, all I ever did was talk about disgusting practices of the Catholic church. I dunno, I never cared about this enough to go
advanced searching. And you said in this thread that it's not even exactly your belief because your belief deviates from the public positions of the Catholic leadership.
thegreekdog wrote:What is something you believe in JB? Seriously. Give me something that, deep down in your heart, you believe in. Because I'm going to vomit all over it in this forum and when you ask me politely to stop, i'm not going to.
I did, you haven't been reading my posts.
I believe deeply that you are profoundly intelligent. Ok, Go!
I said earlier in this thread that I get upset when people attack Atheism by saying that Atheists are bad people and junk. But I'm able to understand that they are attacking an idea, and not me personally... so I always ignore it, let it go, or defend Atheism on it's merits. If they attack my skin color or something, then they are attacking me personally.
thegreekdog wrote:Wait, what's that? You didn't think the totenkopf was offensive until someone told you that he found it offensive? And that caused you to change your mind? Was GeneralRisk then making disparaging remarks about your religion? Did you ask him to stop and then he didn't?
Let me guess, this isn't the same thing as our situation because not only did you stop doing whatever it was you were doing, but you sympathized with him and understood him?
It's not the same thing as our situation. I understood him, I cared, & I sympathized with him. You only stopped making fun of the Holocaust because I told you to. Not because you cared. You followed it up with "oh but I still think that Holocaust jokes are funny." Oh: How very patronizing of you. Well, I didn't think the totenkopf was acceptable at all ever anymore. I probably would have reached that conclusion without hi, but I never had a reason to think on it. Yet you still think Holocaust jokes are acceptable, just not around me. You didn't change at all.
Furthermore, he said it was personally offensive to him that the symbol of the Nazi Death squads could be used as an avatar. Your response was to say that the person who oppened the C&A should be banned, and that any avi should be allowed.
If talking about your religion is offensive to you and I should therefor stop, then how come the totenkopf, which is offensive to him, should be allowed?
Our situations are very different indeed.
thegreekdog wrote: While knowing merely 1% about me, you've made the determination that I have no understanding of the Holocaust and could not possibly understand anything to do with the Holocaust. You're such a hypocrit dude. Seriously.
That's not hypocrisy. I said before - If you did understand you wouldn't make fun of the Holocaust.