Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

[jimboston]

THE key difference between this war and the Serbia genocide is that the Russians are taking casualties in order to avoid hitting civilianS targets. They could easily carpet bomb Ukraine into dust and then occupy what's left. NATO showed no such restraint in Serbia, hitting all sorts of civilian infrastructure.

[saxitoxin]

Russia, in bilateral discussions with a Ukrainian delegation, agreed to their request to create humanitarian corridors to permit the evacuation of anyone who wants to leave the zone of operations. There is no reason Russia had to do that.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60611470

There has never been a single case in the last 30 years of which I'm aware where the United States engaged with its enemy via in-person discussion and agreed to create evacuation corridors.

During the meeting today, the Russians respectfully showed up in business suits and extended the first offer to shake the Ukes' hands. The Ukes came in sweat pants and hoodies and only shook hands after being offered. Never was it more on symbolic display how this is a battle between a civilized nation with a 1,000 year history versus a third world gangster state.

[jusplay4fun]

I will put my comments at the TOP, so that Qwert cannot miss this. Qwert asked for differences and I provided at least 3. He seems to ignore or have forgotten this exchange.

So many say that bombarding Yugoslavia 1999 by NAto against any UN approval and then create new state braking teritorial integrity of other country will open pandora box where all other coutries territorial integrity will mean nothing and where any minority could ceded and create new countries.
US belive that only they have right to invade and create pupet states , its look that things are change now Russia learn from US how to invade and change regimes by force.
And we all know how US created allies in Afghanistan just been abandoned by US, left to be killed by Talibans. Not to mention how many weapons and military equipment left behind.

Are you trying to say you’re pro-Russian aggression?
Based on Putin’s threats against Sweden and Finland now too, I’d suggest you sit back and wait; Russian tanks may eventually come thank you for your support in person.

Are you trying to say your are pro -US aggression on Serbia?
Im not from Ukraine and im not from Russia to, Im from Serbia. Im only draw parallels between US and Russia, for me bout countries try to create pupet states.
Im not experience Russian aggression, but im experience 78 days of US aggression over my country. I try to explane to you that if US not respect other countries territorial integrity and use force to create puppet states, now suddenly people are surprised when Russia make same moves like US .
And US government are not honest in helping Ukraine, they impose sanctions who are not target oil and gas,, even today US buy every day 600k oil from Russia.
Germany send 5000 helmets military support???
Ukraine ask for help and what get ......nothing.

You may see some parallels between the Russian/Ukrainian situation and the situation in the former Yugoslavian States.
I’m sure you can focus on those similarities… but the fact is there are way more differences.

Can you give me differences?
And im talk about 1999 NATO Aggression on FR Yugoslavia , not to be confused with previous wars in Balkan .

Similarities

1.Kosovo Albanian minorities want to create own country on part of Serbian territory
Russian minorities in Donbas and Luhansk want to create own countries on part of Ukrainian territory

2.Albanians create paramilitary forces and start attack on police and army of Serbia
Russian create paramilitary forces and start attack on police and army of Ukraine

3.West propaganda create picture that 100000 Albanians was killed by Serbian forces (of course that was fake only serve for US to have reason for attack)
Russian propaganda create reports that Ukrainian forces bombard Donbas cities ( reason for Russia to attack Ukraine)

4.US-NAto attack sovereign country of Yugoslavia without UN approval
Russia attack sovereign country of Ukraine without UN approval

5.US-Nato after 78 days of heavy bombardment of mostly civilian targets( army had quite successful strategy to leave towns and hide they equipment) without UN approval occupy Kosovo province
Russia will probably occupy some parts of Ukraine without UN approval (its ongoing right now)

6.With US -NATO forces support and against UN resolution 1244 ( resolution who recognize Kosovo like part of Republic of Serbia) Kosovo declare independent from Serbia backed by western powers. As long Serbia refuse to recognize independent of Kosovo, these puppet state can not be full state recognize by UN.
(Now these are possible scenario for Ukraine) With Russian forces Doneck and Luhans will occupy administrative territories what belong to these Provinces . Russia will try to force Ukraine government to accept new reality and to recognize these two new country

I find similarities you give me differences

[jusplay4fun]

THE key difference between this war and the Serbia genocide is that the Russians are taking casualties in order to avoid hitting civilianS targets. They could easily carpet bomb Ukraine into dust and then occupy what's left. NATO showed no such restraint in Serbia, hitting all sorts of civilian infrastructure.

More FAKE News peddled by saxi. NOTHING NEW. Period.

[jusplay4fun]

Russia, in bilateral discussions with a Ukrainian delegation, agreed to their request to create humanitarian corridors to permit the evacuation of anyone who wants to leave the zone of operations. There is no reason Russia had to do that.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60611470

There has never been a single case in the last 30 years of which I'm aware where the United States engaged with its enemy via in-person discussion and agreed to create evacuation corridors.

During the meeting today, the Russians respectfully showed up in business suits and extended the first offer to shake the Ukes' hands. The Ukes came in sweat pants and hoodies and only shook hands after being offered. Never was it more on symbolic display how this is a battle between a civilized nation with a 1,000 year history versus a third world gangster state.

Is it possible that since Ukrainians are having their HOMES and Homeland attack that they could not get to their SUITS to even put on? Or, the dry cleaners establishment where the suits were stored, was bombed or damaged? And is it possible that these Ukrainians are busy manning the front lines, while the Russians are eating caviar back in Belarus that is NOT under attack? This is a typical saxi ploy to try to spin a false narrative (i.e., Fake News).

I think someone mention that a Ukrainian nuclear power plant was shelled by the Russians and is on fire. That is NOTHING to worry about, RIGHT? And the presence of the Russian military is not allowing the fire to be extinguished by Ukrainian firefighters.

Firefighters cannot get near the flames because they are being shot at, he said, and Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba tweeted a plea to the Russians to stop the assault and allow fire teams inside.

“We demand that they stop the heavy weapons fire,” Tuz said in a video statement. “There is a real threat of nuclear danger in the biggest atomic energy station in Europe.”

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-a3092d8e476949ed7c55607a645a9154

and update:

[T]he war in Ukraine entered a new phase Friday when Russian troops seized Europe's largest nuclear power plant after a fire in a nearby training building was extinguished. Both sides agreed Russian forces control the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Enerhodar, Ukraine, but both blamed the other for the fire.

Ukrainian authorities said Russian shelling sparked the blaze. At first they said Russian forces were keeping firefighters from reaching the flames but later said the Russians had relented.

According to the Reuters news service, the Kremlin blamed Ukrainian saboteurs and called the fire a "monstrous provocation."

No increases in radiation levels were detected and plant personnel were monitoring its operations, Ukrainian officials said. Russia's defense ministry said the plant was operating normally.

In a video address, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky accused Russia of using "nuclear terror."

"No country has ever shot at nuclear blocks except for Russia," Zelensky said. "First time ever. For the first time ever in our history, in the history of human kind, the terrorist country has reverted to nuclear terror."

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/ukraine-russia-news-war-zelensky-putin-airstrikes-kyiv-kharkiv-mariupol/

Besides, the Russians stole much of the wealth of Ukraine by seizing Crimea and grain.

On 22–23 February 2014, Russian president Vladimir Putin convened an all-night meeting with security service chiefs to discuss the extrication of the deposed Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych. At the end of the meeting, Putin remarked that "we must start working on returning Crimea to Russia".[4] On 23 February, pro-Russian demonstrations were held in the Crimean city of Sevastopol. On 27 February, masked Russian troops without insignia[41] took over the Supreme Council (parliament) of Crimea[42][43] and captured strategic sites across Crimea, which led to the installation of the pro-Russian Sergey Aksyonov government in Crimea, the conducting of the Crimean status referendum and the declaration of Crimea's independence on 16 March 2014.[44][45] Russia formally incorporated Crimea as two Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the federal city of Sevastopol on 18 March 2014.[46][47][note 2] Following the annexation, Russia escalated military presence on the peninsula and leveraged nuclear threats to solidify the new status quo on the ground.[49]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation#:~:text=Russia%20formally%20incorporated%20Crimea%20as,status%20quo%20on%20the%20ground.

At the height of the 1932-33 Ukrainian famine under Joseph Stalin, starving people roamed the countryside, desperate for something, anything to eat. In the village of Stavyshche, a young peasant boy watched as the wanderers dug into empty gardens with their bare hands. Many were so emaciated, he recalled, that their bodies began to swell and stink from the extreme lack of nutrients.

"You could see them walking about, just walking and walking, and one would drop, and then another, and so on it went," he said many years later, in a case history collected in the late 1980s by a Congressional commission. In the cemetery outside the village hospital, overwhelmed doctors carried the bodies on stretchers and tossed them into an enormous pit.

The Holodomor's Death Toll

The Ukrainian famine—known as the Holodomor, a combination of the Ukrainian words for “starvation” and “to inflict death”—by one estimate claimed the lives of 3.9 million people, about 13 percent of the population. And, unlike other famines in history caused by blight or drought, this was caused when a dictator wanted both to replace Ukraine’s small farms with state-run collectives and punish independence-minded Ukrainians who posed a threat to his totalitarian authority.

https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

[Dukasaur]

The general point still stands that Russian athletes, sports teams, performers, cats etc. are all still being banned from doing their jobs on the basis of their nationality.

How many German athletes played for Liverpool in 1940?

Can you name a Japanese Broadway star from 1943?

[Qwert]

I will put my comments at the TOP, so that Qwert cannot miss this. Qwert asked for differences and I provided at least 3. He seems to ignore or have forgotten this exchange.

So many say that bombarding Yugoslavia 1999 by NAto against any UN approval and then create new state braking teritorial integrity of other country will open pandora box where all other coutries territorial integrity will mean nothing and where any minority could ceded and create new countries.
US belive that only they have right to invade and create pupet states , its look that things are change now Russia learn from US how to invade and change regimes by force.
And we all know how US created allies in Afghanistan just been abandoned by US, left to be killed by Talibans. Not to mention how many weapons and military equipment left behind.

Are you trying to say you’re pro-Russian aggression?
Based on Putin’s threats against Sweden and Finland now too, I’d suggest you sit back and wait; Russian tanks may eventually come thank you for your support in person.

Are you trying to say your are pro -US aggression on Serbia?
Im not from Ukraine and im not from Russia to, Im from Serbia. Im only draw parallels between US and Russia, for me bout countries try to create pupet states.
Im not experience Russian aggression, but im experience 78 days of US aggression over my country. I try to explane to you that if US not respect other countries territorial integrity and use force to create puppet states, now suddenly people are surprised when Russia make same moves like US .
And US government are not honest in helping Ukraine, they impose sanctions who are not target oil and gas,, even today US buy every day 600k oil from Russia.
Germany send 5000 helmets military support???
Ukraine ask for help and what get ......nothing.

You may see some parallels between the Russian/Ukrainian situation and the situation in the former Yugoslavian States.
I’m sure you can focus on those similarities… but the fact is there are way more differences.

Can you give me differences?
And im talk about 1999 NATO Aggression on FR Yugoslavia , not to be confused with previous wars in Balkan .

Similarities

1.Kosovo Albanian minorities want to create own country on part of Serbian territory
Russian minorities in Donbas and Luhansk want to create own countries on part of Ukrainian territory

2.Albanians create paramilitary forces and start attack on police and army of Serbia
Russian create paramilitary forces and start attack on police and army of Ukraine

3.West propaganda create picture that 100000 Albanians was killed by Serbian forces (of course that was fake only serve for US to have reason for attack)
Russian propaganda create reports that Ukrainian forces bombard Donbas cities ( reason for Russia to attack Ukraine)

4.US-NAto attack sovereign country of Yugoslavia without UN approval
Russia attack sovereign country of Ukraine without UN approval

5.US-Nato after 78 days of heavy bombardment of mostly civilian targets( army had quite successful strategy to leave towns and hide they equipment) without UN approval occupy Kosovo province
Russia will probably occupy some parts of Ukraine without UN approval (its ongoing right now)

6.With US -NATO forces support and against UN resolution 1244 ( resolution who recognize Kosovo like part of Republic of Serbia) Kosovo declare independent from Serbia backed by western powers. As long Serbia refuse to recognize independent of Kosovo, these puppet state can not be full state recognize by UN.
(Now these are possible scenario for Ukraine) With Russian forces Doneck and Luhans will occupy administrative territories what belong to these Provinces . Russia will try to force Ukraine government to accept new reality and to recognize these two new country

I find similarities you give me differences

Where its differences??? Im start to be confused because i reply on other member post and now i talk with you? Do you have multiple accounts??

[Qwert]

So many say that bombarding Yugoslavia 1999 by NAto against any UN approval and then create new state braking teritorial integrity of other country will open pandora box where all other coutries territorial integrity will mean nothing and where any minority could ceded and create new countries.
US belive that only they have right to invade and create pupet states , its look that things are change now Russia learn from US how to invade and change regimes by force.
And we all know how US created allies in Afghanistan just been abandoned by US, left to be killed by Talibans. Not to mention how many weapons and military equipment left behind.

Are you trying to say you’re pro-Russian aggression?
Based on Putin’s threats against Sweden and Finland now too, I’d suggest you sit back and wait; Russian tanks may eventually come thank you for your support in person.

Are you trying to say your are pro -US aggression on Serbia?
Im not from Ukraine and im not from Russia to, Im from Serbia. Im only draw parallels between US and Russia, for me bout countries try to create pupet states.
Im not experience Russian aggression, but im experience 78 days of US aggression over my country. I try to explane to you that if US not respect other countries territorial integrity and use force to create puppet states, now suddenly people are surprised when Russia make same moves like US .
And US government are not honest in helping Ukraine, they impose sanctions who are not target oil and gas,, even today US buy every day 600k oil from Russia.
Germany send 5000 helmets military support???
Ukraine ask for help and what get ......nothing.

You may see some parallels between the Russian/Ukrainian situation and the situation in the former Yugoslavian States.
I’m sure you can focus on those similarities… but the fact is there are way more differences.

Can you give me differences?
And im talk about 1999 NATO Aggression on FR Yugoslavia , not to be confused with previous wars in Balkan .

Similarities

1.Kosovo Albanian minorities want to create own country on part of Serbian territory
Russian minorities in Donbas and Luhansk want to create own countries on part of Ukrainian territory

2.Albanians create paramilitary forces and start attack on police and army of Serbia
Russian create paramilitary forces and start attack on police and army of Ukraine

3.West propaganda create picture that 100000 Albanians was killed by Serbian forces (of course that was fake only serve for US to have reason for attack)
Russian propaganda create reports that Ukrainian forces bombard Donbas cities ( reason for Russia to attack Ukraine)

4.US-NAto attack sovereign country of Yugoslavia without UN approval
Russia attack sovereign country of Ukraine without UN approval

5.US-Nato after 78 days of heavy bombardment of mostly civilian targets( army had quite successful strategy to leave towns and hide they equipment) without UN approval occupy Kosovo province
Russia will probably occupy some parts of Ukraine without UN approval (its ongoing right now)

6.With US -NATO forces support and against UN resolution 1244 ( resolution who recognize Kosovo like part of Republic of Serbia) Kosovo declare independent from Serbia backed by western powers. As long Serbia refuse to recognize independent of Kosovo, these puppet state can not be full state recognize by UN.
(Now these are possible scenario for Ukraine) With Russian forces Doneck and Luhans will occupy administrative territories what belong to these Provinces . Russia will try to force Ukraine government to accept new reality and to recognize these two new country

I find similarities you give me differences

Your similarities are exaggerated. Minorities is the former Yugoslavia were persecuted, I’m not aware of ethnic Russian persecution… though I’m sure Russia is claiming as much. Your statement injmner 3 demonstrates your bias and shows you are blinded by your loyalties.

The US/NATO has no interest in annexing any parts of the former Yugoslavia.

Ukraine was formerly part of the USSR whereas Yugoslavia was never a part of USA.

American talk about bias that funny.
Who talk of annexation? US create puppet states more then Russians.I mean you are American and its quite normal that you see every US intervention in last 50-60 years totally justify even not any country ever invade or attack US . Even name of US secretary of Defense are not make any sense, because after WWII no one attack US, but US attack many countries.
I watch you tube videos where former US soldier criticize Russian for use of Cluster bombs, for bombard place where civilians live???? US military doing all these things and still criticize Russian Army???
How many civilians die in Iraq and Afghanistan ( not to count Vietnam)?
But i understand you are American and everything what its written for US military are pure lies,exaggerations and bias.
US army never kill any civilians never use cluster and napalm bombs, any member of Army who commit any war crime are punished hard .

[HitRed]

Russia is calling in reserves. Considering marshal law.

Pray for the conversion of Putin!

You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’ and ‘Hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.…

[bigtoughralf]

The general point still stands that Russian athletes, sports teams, performers, cats etc. are all still being banned from doing their jobs on the basis of their nationality.

How many German athletes played for Liverpool in 1940?

Can you name a Japanese Broadway star from 1943?

Leaving aside that football teams didn't really have foreign players back then, is 'they did it back then too' a defense or something?

[Doc_Brown]

Leaving aside that football teams didn't really have foreign players back then, is 'they did it back then too' a defense or something?

It kind of sounds like that's one of the pro-Russia defenses presented in here. "The US did something similar almost a quarter century ago, so why complain about Russia doing it today."

[bigtoughralf]

Leaving aside that football teams didn't really have foreign players back then, is 'they did it back then too' a defense or something?

It kind of sounds like that's one of the pro-Russia defenses presented in here. "The US did something similar almost a quarter century ago, so why complain about Russia doing it today."

Joe Biden and Boris Johnson were serving members of their respective governments who both voted in favour of the Iraq War, so it's fair enough to expect them to accommodate the Russian government when it launches a similar war.

That is not at all the same as saying 'people in the UK were xenophobic in the 1940s therefore it is acceptable for them to be xenophobic again in the 2020s'.

[saxitoxin]

The general point still stands that Russian athletes, sports teams, performers, cats etc. are all still being banned from doing their jobs on the basis of their nationality.

How many German athletes played for Liverpool in 1940?

Can you name a Japanese Broadway star from 1943?

Britain and the U.S. aren't at war with Russia.

[saxitoxin]

Even the Axis did not ban the U.S. from the 1936 Olympics. The West's athletic/cultural blockade against Russia is literally worse than the Nazis.

[bigtoughralf]

Isn't that the Olympics where Jesse Owens won a bunch of gold medals, was treated like a hero in Germany, then went home to the US where he wasn't allowed to sit at the front of the bus?

[mookiemcgee]

Isn't that the Olympics where Jesse Owens won a bunch of gold medals, was treated like a hero in Germany, then went home to the US where he wasn't allowed to sit at the front of the bus?

front of the bus is totally overrated.

[saxitoxin]

Isn't that the Olympics where Jesse Owens won a bunch of gold medals, was treated like a hero in Germany, then went home to the US where he wasn't allowed to sit at the front of the bus?

Yes. In the second photo, that's Jesse with Luz Long the long jump gold medalist and German army officer. They remained pen pals after the games.

IOW, the U.S. is currently acting worse than the Nazis while it's supporting literal Nazis (Ukraine).

[saxitoxin]

Russia has just supplied 130 busses to evacuate approximately 4,000 Indian nationals out of the war zone. They will be driven to the Russian city of Belgorod with a security escort from the Russian Border Troops where Russian aircraft will transport them onward to India. They were not able to get out before now after Ukraine enacted its Whites Only evacuation policy.

Meanwhile, in Canada, Trudeau's disgusting little 3'9" hobgoblin Transport Minister Omar Alghabra just announced he's taken a group of Russian civilians hostage:

https://twitter.com/OmarAlghabra/status ... 8996803585

The West is absolute crap.

[riskllama]

just heard on the YouTube’s Ukrainian special forces operators are no longer going to take Russian artillery troops as POW’s… . unfortunately, I never made it back to the laptop in time to see what channel it was…:(. was def. from the US, tho. anybody else hear anything about this?

[mookiemcgee]

just heard on the YouTube’s Ukrainian special forces operators are no longer going to take Russian artillery troops as POW’s… . unfortunately, I never made it back to the laptop in time to see what channel it was…:(. was def. from the US, tho. anybody else hear anything about this?

All i could find was this facebook post... I also found some articles saying Russia has made a similar statement about 'foreign mercenaries' in Ukraine no longer considered to have POW status. When you live in a world where facts no longer exist and there are two sides to everything words kinda lose their meaning though.

https://www.facebook.com/usofcom/posts/3212999028931719

https://tass.com/politics/1416131?utm_s ... google.com

[saxitoxin]

just heard on the YouTube’s Ukrainian special forces operators are no longer going to take Russian artillery troops as POW’s… . unfortunately, I never made it back to the laptop in time to see what channel it was…:(. was def. from the US, tho. anybody else hear anything about this?

All i could find was this facebook post... I also found some articles saying Russia has made a similar statement about 'foreign mercenaries' in Ukraine no longer considered to have POW status. When you live in a world where facts no longer exist and there are two sides to everything words kinda lose their meaning though.

https://www.facebook.com/usofcom/posts/3212999028931719

https://tass.com/politics/1416131?utm_s ... google.com

What the Ukrainians are doing is a war crime.

What the Russians are doing is not. Mercenaries are unlawful combatants.

Article 3 of the 1977 OAU Convention against Mercenarism states: “Mercenaries shall not enjoy the status of combatants and shall not be entitled to prisoner of war status.”

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customar ... 8_sectionb

When Russia says they will not be entitled to POW status that does not mean they will be shot after capture. Rather, they will be charged and sentenced to prison in Russia as common criminals. At the end of hostilities, they will continue serving their prison sentence and will not be released to their home countries in the same way lawful combatants / POWS are released at the end of war.

[mookiemcgee]

just heard on the YouTube’s Ukrainian special forces operators are no longer going to take Russian artillery troops as POW’s… . unfortunately, I never made it back to the laptop in time to see what channel it was…:(. was def. from the US, tho. anybody else hear anything about this?

All i could find was this facebook post... I also found some articles saying Russia has made a similar statement about 'foreign mercenaries' in Ukraine no longer considered to have POW status. When you live in a world where facts no longer exist and there are two sides to everything words kinda lose their meaning though.

https://www.facebook.com/usofcom/posts/3212999028931719

https://tass.com/politics/1416131?utm_s ... google.com

What the Ukrainians are doing is a war crime.

What the Russians are doing is not. Mercenaries are unlawful combatants.

Article 3 of the 1977 OAU Convention against Mercenarism states: “Mercenaries shall not enjoy the status of combatants and shall not be entitled to prisoner of war status.”

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customar ... 8_sectionb

When Russia says they will not be entitled to POW status that does not mean they will be shot after capture (though they are entitled to do so). Rather, they will be charged and sentenced to prison in Russia as common criminals. At the end of hostilities, they will continue serving their prison sentence and will not be released to their home countries in the same way lawful combatants / POWS are released at the end of war.

Blah blah blah. We know Saxi, you hate the west and all it stands for... that's why you were such an ardent Trump supporter.

[saxitoxin]

just heard on the YouTube’s Ukrainian special forces operators are no longer going to take Russian artillery troops as POW’s… . unfortunately, I never made it back to the laptop in time to see what channel it was…:(. was def. from the US, tho. anybody else hear anything about this?

All i could find was this facebook post... I also found some articles saying Russia has made a similar statement about 'foreign mercenaries' in Ukraine no longer considered to have POW status. When you live in a world where facts no longer exist and there are two sides to everything words kinda lose their meaning though.

https://www.facebook.com/usofcom/posts/3212999028931719

https://tass.com/politics/1416131?utm_s ... google.com

What the Ukrainians are doing is a war crime.

What the Russians are doing is not. Mercenaries are unlawful combatants.

Article 3 of the 1977 OAU Convention against Mercenarism states: “Mercenaries shall not enjoy the status of combatants and shall not be entitled to prisoner of war status.”

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customar ... 8_sectionb

When Russia says they will not be entitled to POW status that does not mean they will be shot after capture (though they are entitled to do so). Rather, they will be charged and sentenced to prison in Russia as common criminals. At the end of hostilities, they will continue serving their prison sentence and will not be released to their home countries in the same way lawful combatants / POWS are released at the end of war.

Blah blah blah. We know Saxi, you hate the west and all it stands for... that's why you were such an ardent Trump supporter.

What's it stand for? War crimes? Slaughter? Torture? Degeneracy? Russia is the bulwark and the breakwater of civilization.

And Trump was the first presidential candidate who didn't blindly wrap himself in the flag and was willing to call out the West's history of barbarism and butchery which is why bloodthirsty neocons like Cheney and Kinzinger despise him - https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/14 ... mp4?tag=12

[Doc_Brown]

And Trump was the first presidential candidate who didn't blindly wrap himself in the flag and was willing to call out the West's history of barbarism and butchery which is why bloodthirsty neocons like Cheney and Kinzinger despise him

Ron Paul would like a word...

[mookiemcgee]

just heard on the YouTube’s Ukrainian special forces operators are no longer going to take Russian artillery troops as POW’s… . unfortunately, I never made it back to the laptop in time to see what channel it was…:(. was def. from the US, tho. anybody else hear anything about this?

All i could find was this facebook post... I also found some articles saying Russia has made a similar statement about 'foreign mercenaries' in Ukraine no longer considered to have POW status. When you live in a world where facts no longer exist and there are two sides to everything words kinda lose their meaning though.

https://www.facebook.com/usofcom/posts/3212999028931719

https://tass.com/politics/1416131?utm_s ... google.com

What the Ukrainians are doing is a war crime.

What the Russians are doing is not. Mercenaries are unlawful combatants.

Article 3 of the 1977 OAU Convention against Mercenarism states: “Mercenaries shall not enjoy the status of combatants and shall not be entitled to prisoner of war status.”

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customar ... 8_sectionb

When Russia says they will not be entitled to POW status that does not mean they will be shot after capture (though they are entitled to do so). Rather, they will be charged and sentenced to prison in Russia as common criminals. At the end of hostilities, they will continue serving their prison sentence and will not be released to their home countries in the same way lawful combatants / POWS are released at the end of war.

Blah blah blah. We know Saxi, you hate the west and all it stands for... that's why you were such an ardent Trump supporter.

And Trump was the first presidential candidate who didn't blindly wrap himself in the flag

JP, can you please quote this and make a post about Saxi and his lies again?