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[notyou2]

Why do you ask John?

[john9blue]

Innocent curiosity, and a helpful reminder to everyone else that your opinion on American issues probably shouldn't be taken too seriously.

[PLAYER57832]

Ironically enough, sometimes outsiders see things in a far more objective light. That is true for many things, including, sometimes, policies in a country.

[john9blue]

Ironically enough, sometimes outsiders see things in a far more objective light. That is true for many things, including, sometimes, policies in a country.

Like making biased value judgments on citizens of that country? Right.

[notyou2]

I have lived in Canada all my life. I have been in the US many times. I have been exposed to US cable channels all the major networks all my life, over 40 years. I have been reading Newsweek and Time for as long as I can read.

Canada can not help but be influenced by the US. We share a 4000 mile border. The average Canadian knows far more about the US then the average American knows about Canada.

[PLAYER57832]

Ironically enough, sometimes outsiders see things in a far more objective light. That is true for many things, including, sometimes, policies in a country.

Like making biased value judgments on citizens of that country? Right.

Mostly superficial information. But bias is in the eyes of the beholder when it comes to opinions. (as opposed to science facts).

Anyway, in this particularly case, I suspect you are correct, but I did not bother to read back through the whole debate. I just caught your line and it struck me as having many exceptions.

[notyou2]

Ironically enough, sometimes outsiders see things in a far more objective light. That is true for many things, including, sometimes, policies in a country.

Like making biased value judgments on citizens of that country? Right.

Why do you feel that my judgments are biased and yours aren't?

[Phatscotty]

Ironically enough, sometimes outsiders see things in a far more objective light. That is true for many things, including, sometimes, policies in a country.

Like making biased value judgments on citizens of that country? Right.

Why do you feel that my judgments are biased and yours aren't?

I think, to most, John has usually been unbiased, most of the time.

[Neoteny]

Ironically enough, sometimes outsiders see things in a far more objective light. That is true for many things, including, sometimes, policies in a country.

Like making biased value judgments on citizens of that country? Right.

Why do you feel that my judgments are biased and yours aren't?

I think, to most, John has usually been unbiased, most of the time.

lol

[john9blue]

I can be biased at times (EDIT: ninja'd by Neo) but I will hardly ever call huge groups of people bigoted knee-jerkers. It sounds ignorant, especially coming from someone who doesn't live here. I'm still not sure whether you were serious or not.

[Neoteny]

I strike like tequila lightning.

[Phatscotty]

Ironically enough, sometimes outsiders see things in a far more objective light. That is true for many things, including, sometimes, policies in a country.

Like making biased value judgments on citizens of that country? Right.

Why do you feel that my judgments are biased and yours aren't?

I think, to most, John has usually been unbiased, most of the time.

lol

He was #3 most respected poster.....

and I suspect that was the poll that might have sealed the deal for Greekie getting the mod-nod....

[Neoteny]

Like making biased value judgments on citizens of that country? Right.

Why do you feel that my judgments are biased and yours aren't?

I think, to most, John has usually been unbiased, most of the time.

lol

He was #3 most respected poster.....

and I suspect that was the poll that might have sealed the deal for Greekie getting the mod-nod....

I was tied for first for least least respected poster, therefore I have authority over such things.

We're all biased, no matter how much other people like us.

[Phatscotty]

some more than others. some a lot more than others. Some only know bias and nothing else. Where has Sultan Been? Norman is that you?

[Night Strike]

I guess the Democrats didn't want to publicize the drastic harm their health care law is already causing:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/news/companies/dropping_benefits.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes

[notyou2]

This post suspended until completion of the NBA and NHL 2010 playoffs.

Thank you for your cooperation.

[PLAYER57832]

I guess the Democrats didn't want to publicize the drastic harm their health care law is already causing:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/news/companies/dropping_benefits.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes

Oh please, as if the bill that arose after the entire Republican party just about dug in its heals and whined for changes is really the Democratic bill.

In fact, it did not even go as far as the previous Republican attempts.

[Night Strike]

I guess the Democrats didn't want to publicize the drastic harm their health care law is already causing:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/news/companies/dropping_benefits.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes

Oh please, as if the bill that arose after the entire Republican party just about dug in its heals and whined for changes is really the Democratic bill.

In fact, it did not even go as far as the previous Republican attempts.

The bill was passed with 0 Republican votes and was modified only to get Democratic votes. Those facts are irrefutable, so stop trying to rewrite history and blame the horrible law on the Republicans.

[PLAYER57832]

I guess the Democrats didn't want to publicize the drastic harm their health care law is already causing:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/news/companies/dropping_benefits.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes

Oh please, as if the bill that arose after the entire Republican party just about dug in its heals and whined for changes is really the Democratic bill.

In fact, it did not even go as far as the previous Republican attempts.

The bill was passed with 0 Republican votes and was modified only to get Democratic votes. Those facts are irrefutable, so stop trying to rewrite history and blame the horrible law on the Republicans.

That 0 speaks mightily for itself.

[spurgistan]

I guess the Democrats didn't want to publicize the drastic harm their health care law is already causing:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/news/companies/dropping_benefits.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes

Oh please, as if the bill that arose after the entire Republican party just about dug in its heals and whined for changes is really the Democratic bill.

In fact, it did not even go as far as the previous Republican attempts.

The bill was passed with 0 Republican votes and was modified only to get Democratic votes. Those facts are irrefutable, so stop trying to rewrite history and blame the horrible law on the Republicans.

Yes, but the filibuster (by Republicans) made it so that we needed to get 60 votes. That made this Joe Lieberman's bill. Who, as we all know, is not a Democrat. Regardless, even if all Republicans had just voted "no" but allowed debate to open and allowed the grown-ups to talk about it on the floor, it would be a better bill.

[thegreekdog]

If the President and the Democrats in Congress had agreed to scrapping the bill and redrafting one, I think it would also have been a better bill.

[Neoteny]

And the Republicans wouldn't have voted for that one either.

[thegreekdog]

And the Republicans wouldn't have voted for that one either.

Okay.

[Neoteny]

And we'd be back where we started, except for the stupid delay tactics.

[john9blue]

How about a bill ordering the death of half the American population? No Republican would have voted for that one. Those biased Republicans.