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Postby steve-O on Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:53 pm

I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times
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Postby ritz627 on Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:54 pm

steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.
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Postby Machus on Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:55 pm

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Machus wrote:Gawd, how cliche and tiresome. Some of you people who are serious in this thread pay more attention to and devote more of your energy to thinking of Americans than Americans do themselves. A country, place, or person that isn't vitally important to you in some way doesn't warrant so much attention.

Thanks for the flattery. :roll: ... :D

BTW, it's always funny when Europeans and Canadians go out of their way to express disdain for American arrogance and misguided pride by...making certain to make a point of talking about their own superior traits. :lol:


I'M AMERICAN if you didnt catch on...before you post such crap, read my post!

Idiot, I wasn't addressing Americans, or you, in the previous post. Did I quote you before? Then it it wasn't a comment directed at you or other Americans like you.

Many Americans who are so serious about the whole thing are usually jumping on a bandwagon. Most not all. But, I've never heard an American who had an authentically original reason that wasn't based on the same rhetoric as some Europeans and Canadians.

This one was to give you full attention and credit. I see that you want to move to Canada or Europe too, happy? :wink:
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Postby steve-O on Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:58 pm

ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.


exageration :roll:
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Postby ritz627 on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:03 pm

Machus wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
Machus wrote:Gawd, how cliche and tiresome. Some of you people who are serious in this thread pay more attention to and devote more of your energy to thinking of Americans than Americans do themselves. A country, place, or person that isn't vitally important to you in some way doesn't warrant so much attention.

Thanks for the flattery. :roll: ... :D

BTW, it's always funny when Europeans and Canadians go out of their way to express disdain for American arrogance and misguided pride by...making certain to make a point of talking about their own superior traits. :lol:


I'M AMERICAN if you didnt catch on...before you post such crap, read my post!

Idiot, I wasn't addressing Americans, or you, in the previous post. Did I quote you before? Then it it wasn't a comment directed at you or other Americans like you.

Many Americans who are so serious about the whole thing are usually jumping on a bandwagon. Most not all. But, I've never heard an American who had an authentically original reason that wasn't based on the same rhetoric as some Europeans and Canadians.

This one was to give you full attention and credit. I see that you want to move to Canada or Europe too, happy? :wink:


Okay, fair enough then, excuse me for mistaking that post ot be aimed at mine, afterall, it came right after mine and adressed a lot of what was discussed in my post.

But with that said, I am not jumping on any bandwagon here, this was a conclusion I came to by myselft. I don't like what it has become, pure and sample, I am just plain ashamed of it.
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Postby ritz627 on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:06 pm

steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.


exageration :roll:


Yea..because I didnt catch on to that...

Of course it was, but it just happens to be a completely unnecessary exageration that wasn't even remotely close. Usually exagerations somewhat make sense.
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Postby steve-O on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:13 pm

ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.


exageration :roll:


Yea..because I didnt catch on to that...

Of course it was, but it just happens to be a completely unnecessary exageration that wasn't even remotely close. Usually exagerations somewhat make sense.


if u cant catch on to a 2 being turn into a 50 then ure a complete dumbass. And how doesnt it make sense? Do big numbers confuse you?
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Postby ritz627 on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:23 pm

steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.


exageration :roll:


Yea..because I didnt catch on to that...

Of course it was, but it just happens to be a completely unnecessary exageration that wasn't even remotely close. Usually exagerations somewhat make sense.


if u cant catch on to a 2 being turn into a 50 then ure a complete dumbass. And how doesnt it make sense? Do big numbers confuse you?


There is no need to exagerate the number 2 is what I'm saying, so rather you are a complete dumbass for exagerating the number. Now if you'd excuse me, this argument is stupid, and chances are it is pointless to argue with you any way.
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Postby steve-O on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:28 pm

ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.


exageration :roll:


Yea..because I didnt catch on to that...

Of course it was, but it just happens to be a completely unnecessary exageration that wasn't even remotely close. Usually exagerations somewhat make sense.


if u cant catch on to a 2 being turn into a 50 then ure a complete dumbass. And how doesnt it make sense? Do big numbers confuse you?


There is no need to exagerate the number 2 is what I'm saying, so rather you are a complete dumbass for exagerating the number. Now if you'd excuse me, this argument is stupid, and chances are it is pointless to argue with you any way.



ya it is pointles i just dont get how exagerating 2 to 50 is such a big deal...
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:31 pm

ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.


exageration :roll:


Yea..because I didnt catch on to that...

Of course it was, but it just happens to be a completely unnecessary exageration that wasn't even remotely close. Usually exagerations somewhat make sense.


if u cant catch on to a 2 being turn into a 50 then ure a complete dumbass. And how doesnt it make sense? Do big numbers confuse you?


There is no need to exagerate the number 2 is what I'm saying, so rather you are a complete dumbass for exagerating the number. Now if you'd excuse me, this argument is stupid, and chances are it is pointless to argue with you any way.


How bout you get 2 punches on the chin ?
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Postby Machus on Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:35 pm

ritz627 wrote:
Okay, fair enough then, excuse me for mistaking that post ot be aimed at mine, afterall, it came right after mine and adressed a lot of what was discussed in my post.

But with that said, I am not jumping on any bandwagon here, this was a conclusion I came to by myselft. I don't like what it has become, pure and sample, I am just plain ashamed of it.

I have some of my own reasons for criticizing the U.S. Ashamed is too severe a word to use for me though. I feel some disappointment in certain aspects of American society; one of which is rampant materialism, but that's a Western flaw in general. But, since I was born here I have some loyalty to the place. That has less to do with flag-waving patriotism and more to do with a sense of home. There's a difference.

You really like to leave extra comments behind by editing. 8)
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Postby ritz627 on Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:00 pm

Machus wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
Okay, fair enough then, excuse me for mistaking that post ot be aimed at mine, afterall, it came right after mine and adressed a lot of what was discussed in my post.

But with that said, I am not jumping on any bandwagon here, this was a conclusion I came to by myselft. I don't like what it has become, pure and sample, I am just plain ashamed of it.

I have some of my own reasons for criticizing the U.S. Ashamed is too severe a word to use for me though. I feel some disappointment in certain aspects of American society; one of which is rampant materialism, but that's a Western flaw in general. But, since I was born here I have some loyalty to the place. That has less to do with flag-waving patriotism and more to do with a sense of home. There's a difference.

You really like to leave extra comments behind by editing. 8)


Yea, I kind of am a perfectionist a little, I can't let somethings go. I definitely agree with you there though, but the only thing I would have to say is that as each year passes by, I feel myself growing less and less loyal to the country in which I was born. I live in Connecticut, and as you can imagine, materialism is pretty large here.
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Postby ritz627 on Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:02 pm

steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.


exageration :roll:


Yea..because I didnt catch on to that...

Of course it was, but it just happens to be a completely unnecessary exageration that wasn't even remotely close. Usually exagerations somewhat make sense.


if u cant catch on to a 2 being turn into a 50 then ure a complete dumbass. And how doesnt it make sense? Do big numbers confuse you?


There is no need to exagerate the number 2 is what I'm saying, so rather you are a complete dumbass for exagerating the number. Now if you'd excuse me, this argument is stupid, and chances are it is pointless to argue with you any way.



ya it is pointles i just dont get how exagerating 2 to 50 is such a big deal...

agreed.
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Postby ritz627 on Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:05 pm

Huckleberryhound wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.


exageration :roll:


Yea..because I didnt catch on to that...

Of course it was, but it just happens to be a completely unnecessary exageration that wasn't even remotely close. Usually exagerations somewhat make sense.


if u cant catch on to a 2 being turn into a 50 then ure a complete dumbass. And how doesnt it make sense? Do big numbers confuse you?


There is no need to exagerate the number 2 is what I'm saying, so rather you are a complete dumbass for exagerating the number. Now if you'd excuse me, this argument is stupid, and chances are it is pointless to argue with you any way.


How bout you get 2 punches on the chin ?


Who are you again? Try not to interrupt for no reason whatsoever. Yes, I'll admit, my post was a little arrogant, and for that I deserve some resistance, but to justify this, me and him were both being a little arrogant, so before you insult me, you probably should do the same to him.
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Postby Guiscard on Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:17 pm

Machus wrote:A country, place, or person that isn't vitally important to you in some way doesn't warrant so much attention.


British lives are lost because of American foreign policy and the world in which we live has been made a more dangerous place by American hegemonic advances. That's pretty fucking vital to me. American foreign policy affects virtually everyone on the planet. You're not isolationist anymore kiddo.

Machus wrote:BTW, it's always funny when Europeans and Canadians go out of their way to express disdain for American arrogance and misguided pride by...making certain to make a point of talking about their own superior traits. :lol:


Bullshit. Any examples? We're perfectly able to point out our own flaws, the flaws in our governments and in our policy. I think you'll find if you read the vast vast majority of American responses in this thread it isn'r us who can't take criticism.
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:46 pm

ritz627 wrote:
Huckleberryhound wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.


exageration :roll:


Yea..because I didnt catch on to that...

Of course it was, but it just happens to be a completely unnecessary exageration that wasn't even remotely close. Usually exagerations somewhat make sense.


if u cant catch on to a 2 being turn into a 50 then ure a complete dumbass. And how doesnt it make sense? Do big numbers confuse you?


There is no need to exagerate the number 2 is what I'm saying, so rather you are a complete dumbass for exagerating the number. Now if you'd excuse me, this argument is stupid, and chances are it is pointless to argue with you any way.


How bout you get 2 punches on the chin ?


Who are you again? Try not to interrupt for no reason whatsoever. Yes, I'll admit, my post was a little arrogant, and for that I deserve some resistance, but to justify this, me and him were both being a little arrogant, so before you insult me, you probably should do the same to him.


Who was insulting anyone ?

I was just giving an example where changing 2 to 50 would not be such an acceptable exageration, and thus backing up your point.

How about 2 punches on the chin

How about 50 ?

The forum said public when i entered, i guess there must be some private void i entered that i was unaware....my apologies.

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Postby ritz627 on Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:56 pm

Huckleberryhound wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
Huckleberryhound wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:
ritz627 wrote:
steve-O wrote:I wasnt pointing that at you. I know that ure american u dont have to point it out 50 times


Twice.


exageration :roll:


Yea..because I didnt catch on to that...

Of course it was, but it just happens to be a completely unnecessary exageration that wasn't even remotely close. Usually exagerations somewhat make sense.


if u cant catch on to a 2 being turn into a 50 then ure a complete dumbass. And how doesnt it make sense? Do big numbers confuse you?


There is no need to exagerate the number 2 is what I'm saying, so rather you are a complete dumbass for exagerating the number. Now if you'd excuse me, this argument is stupid, and chances are it is pointless to argue with you any way.


How bout you get 2 punches on the chin ?


Who are you again? Try not to interrupt for no reason whatsoever. Yes, I'll admit, my post was a little arrogant, and for that I deserve some resistance, but to justify this, me and him were both being a little arrogant, so before you insult me, you probably should do the same to him.


Who was insulting anyone ?

I was just giving an example where changing 2 to 50 would not be such an acceptable exageration, and thus backing up your point.

How about 2 punches on the chin

How about 50 ?

The forum said public when i entered, i guess there must be some private void i entered that i was unaware....my apologies.

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I'm sorry, I read your post wrong, I seem to be doing that a good amount in this forum, maybe its because I'm going on 5 hours of sleep. I'm going to bed now. Sorry once again. Good song though.
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:37 am

steve-O wrote:I just cant stand all these anti-american people out there. What have we ever done to u or your country? Also have u ever actually heard an American saying, "my country is the greatest country in the world and yours sucks ass"? No you havent and if u have then u just ran into somebody on the internet who was bored and wanted to piss off some people for the hell of it.


More or less, yeah. I think the anti-american crowd loves to complain.
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Postby ritz627 on Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:37 pm

Jenos Ridan wrote:
steve-O wrote:I just cant stand all these anti-american people out there. What have we ever done to u or your country? Also have u ever actually heard an American saying, "my country is the greatest country in the world and yours sucks ass"? No you havent and if u have then u just ran into somebody on the internet who was bored and wanted to piss off some people for the hell of it.


More or less, yeah. I think the anti-american crowd loves to complain.


We don't complain. We talk about America, most likely in a more negative way, but even more so we talk about ways we feel it could be improved. It's a matter of opinion. We aren't so much "anti-America", as we are "anti-America in recent history". America has the power to change itself, it'll take a considerable amount of work, but we are people who feel it needs to be changed.

Its the similar to people who are anti-abortion, or anti-gay marraige. Although I would disagree with these people, I acknoweldge that they are not complaining, rather stating their opinions on the matter.
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Postby The1exile on Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:44 pm

Guiscard wrote:Bullshit. Any examples? We're perfectly able to point out our own flaws, the flaws in our governments and in our policy. I think you'll find if you read the vast vast majority of American responses in this thread it isn'r us who can't take criticism.


Well that's because brits tend to have a more depressing world view than Americans.

American: Oh, there's a war in oil land. That's nice, oil prices have been going up and we could use a change."

Brrit: "First oil prices have bin going up and now people are dying in a war over it. Bloody typical. And have you seen the weather forecast?"
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Postby Dariune on Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:46 pm

I have absolutely no issues with americans at all. Infact i think anyone who does is being ridiculous due to americans having so many varied people. Same as any other country.

However the American goverment is a different story. I personally dont like their attitude to other countries or to the world itself.
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Postby Iz Man on Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:16 pm

Guiscard wrote:British lives are lost because of American foreign policy and the world in which we live has been made a more dangerous place by American hegemonic advances...........
if you read the vast vast majority of American responses in this thread it isn't us who can't take criticism.


So Brits can't think and govern for themselves? Just another American "puppet"?

Can't take criticism? The first post on this thread says a lot about the American bashers....We're supposed to just allow that kind of childish bile and not respond?
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:34 pm

Really? I didn't think the first post was bad at all.

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Postby Nobunaga on Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:43 pm

... I absolutely love the United States. Every time I go home, I am overwhelmed by how generally friendly people are. For example, when last I was home, a man I had never met just started talking to me for no reason, other than we were standing in the same line at a supermarket.... that does not happen in Japan - ever.

... Wide open spaces, gotta' love those, too.

... American Bureaucracy though - I do hate the bureaucracy I've run into so many times when dealing with any type of national-level civil service. They make me want to rip my hair out (Japan rocks, in that regard - people with problems that need attention are treated as "valued guests", the problems handled as quickly as possible).
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:02 am

ritz627 wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
steve-O wrote:I just cant stand all these anti-american people out there. What have we ever done to u or your country? Also have u ever actually heard an American saying, "my country is the greatest country in the world and yours sucks ass"? No you havent and if u have then u just ran into somebody on the internet who was bored and wanted to piss off some people for the hell of it.


More or less, yeah. I think the anti-american crowd loves to complain.


We don't complain. We talk about America, most likely in a more negative way, but even more so we talk about ways we feel it could be improved. It's a matter of opinion. We aren't so much "anti-America", as we are "anti-America in recent history". America has the power to change itself, it'll take a considerable amount of work, but we are people who feel it needs to be changed.

Its the similar to people who are anti-abortion, or anti-gay marraige. Although I would disagree with these people, I acknoweldge that they are not complaining, rather stating their opinions on the matter.


Alot of things aren't right with america. But, then, every one of the top 10 nations has some pretty messed up stuff happening in them. Just look at France (convulsive shudder).
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