World Cup 2014

[DiM]

PS: i hope cameroon and mexico beat the crap out of brazil and eliminate them from the group stages. then the population becomes so upset it starts protests and strikes and the world cup is cancelled.

over reacting much?

nope. not one bit. i would actually be very pleased if this whole tournament would encounter terrible difficulties (strikes, protests, sub-par pitches and stadiums) and it would get cancelled. maybe then some people (from fifa) would get the blame and be forced to step down.
brazil being eliminated would be a possible trigger for social actions that would lead to the cancellation of the tournament.
it has nothing to do with the shitty ref from last night, but rather with my desire that the current WC organising system gets changed. i reckon it would take something really big (like a cancelled tournament) for punitive actions to be taken.


PS: i'm looking forward to seeing how players will manage to play in qatar on 40C average temperatures (with highs going over 45C). at least the spectators can drink some water and use fans, but i'm expecting poor quality football and very probable player collapses.

[nagerous]

There was certainly no way Brazil were going to be allowed to lose that match given all the crap that has surrounded the Cup. Hopefully that will be the last of it and Croatia will finish second in the group. I do fear for Spain, Holland or Chile in the last 16 though.

Btw how good was Oscar tonight? Best I've ever seen him play.

Neymar and Oscar played really well, they don't play like that for their clubs that is for sure.
The ref showed serious home crowd bias which is a shame and the Croatian goalkeeper should have done better. Not sure why they subbed Jelavic, I know the Hull City man isn't the greatest but they were chasing the game and there was a corner shortly after the subbing he would have been perfect to get his head on it.

[betiko]

There was certainly no way Brazil were going to be allowed to lose that match given all the crap that has surrounded the Cup. Hopefully that will be the last of it and Croatia will finish second in the group. I do fear for Spain, Holland or Chile in the last 16 though.

Btw how good was Oscar tonight? Best I've ever seen him play.

Neymar and Oscar played really well, they don't play like that for their clubs that is for sure.
The ref showed serious home crowd bias which is a shame and the Croatian goalkeeper should have done better. Not sure why they subbed Jelavic, I know the Hull City man isn't the greatest but they were chasing the game and there was a corner shortly after the subbing he would have been perfect to get his head on it.

Subasic, the keeper from monaco is significantly better than pletikosa, he even makes the argentinian 1st keeper, also plaing for monaco, sit on the bench. Don t know why the old pletikosa is still there.

[betiko]

PS: i hope cameroon and mexico beat the crap out of brazil and eliminate them from the group stages. then the population becomes so upset it starts protests and strikes and the world cup is cancelled.

over reacting much?

nope. not one bit. i would actually be very pleased if this whole tournament would encounter terrible difficulties (strikes, protests, sub-par pitches and stadiums) and it would get cancelled. maybe then some people (from fifa) would get the blame and be forced to step down.
brazil being eliminated would be a possible trigger for social actions that would lead to the cancellation of the tournament.
it has nothing to do with the shitty ref from last night, but rather with my desire that the current WC organising system gets changed. i reckon it would take something really big (like a cancelled tournament) for punitive actions to be taken.


PS: i'm looking forward to seeing how players will manage to play in qatar on 40C average temperatures (with highs going over 45C). at least the spectators can drink some water and use fans, but i'm expecting poor quality football and very probable player collapses.

These arguments are really dumb. If anything the brazilian government is the one to blame given how they are spending public funds for this world cup and that is why there are so many social protests (big stadiums created in the middle of the amazon that will be of no use after the wc, extremely high prices for tickets so brazilians can t go, only foreigners, people from the favelas around the stadiums realocated in other places for better image...)

The world following this competition doesn t deserve to be taken hostage because the brazilian government didn t do everything right.

Concerning qatar in 2022 ii am sure it will be relocated. There are enough proofs of corruption and that qatari people have been giving money under the table for votes. It is impossible to make it happen in summer and it will f*ck all domestic competitions as that year basically they would have to make the wc happen in winter.. Blatter said he would be ok to vote again for that world cup. It s in 8 years so there is time to change minds.

[Sackett58]

Just seemed the Croatian players were arguing more with them selves on missed opportunities. Even after Croatia lead you can tell the Brazilians were penetrating a lot better. The goalie for Croatia just didn't seem to have any spring in his step even thou he did come up with a couple big saves.

[betiko]

Just seemed the Croatian players were arguing more with them selves on missed opportunities. Even after Croatia lead you can tell the Brazilians were penetrating a lot better. The goalie for Croatia just didn't seem to have any spring in his step even thou he did come up with a couple big saves.

very true. you see there is not a good atmosphere within that croatian team, i noticed it too.

[betiko]

I just heard that the japanese ref from last night was the guy who refed the brazil-netherlands quarter finals in the world cup 2010 where brazil got robbed. So basically... He owed them! And that ref doesn t speak english...

Seriously... Why choose this ref, FIFA? Reason of state for Brazil?

[Sackett58]

Just seemed the Croatian players were arguing more with them selves on missed opportunities. Even after Croatia lead you can tell the Brazilians were penetrating a lot better. The goalie for Croatia just didn't seem to have any spring in his step even thou he did come up with a couple big saves.

very true. you see there is not a good atmosphere within that croatian team, i noticed it too.

Watching their teams in several World Cups they always argue. It is in their nature. I know, I'm one of them.

[Trevor33]

haha, i love how FIFA gets referees from shitty countries (when it comes to football), all in the name of globalization, but the actual reason is that they can fix matches and then pretend the errors were because of the poor quality of referees not because of direct orders.

neymar should have been eliminated. clear as daylight.
the penalty? wow. one of the worst dives i've seen lately.

and there were many more other decisions that all went in favour of the brazilians. but these 2 effectively decided the outcome.

PS: i hope cameroon and mexico beat the crap out of brazil and eliminate them from the group stages. then the population becomes so upset it starts protests and strikes and the world cup is cancelled.

over reacting much? sorry but what does the brazilian team or brazilian people have to do with all this? the ref screwed up as it happens so often (and I got to say that there are way more screw ups in world cups than in european leagues or even the eurocup organised by the UEFA)

Not pleased with the japanese referees but the game was really exciting. Usually the opening game is a bit dull but this one was exciting from start to finish. Croatia played as I expected them to, tight defense and counter attacks, Brazil was not living up to their hype however, they won the game but much of that was thanks to the referee who blew penalty kick when there was none. They rely far too much on Neymar for their own good. After seeing this first game I don't think they have what it takes to go all the way, semifinals perhaps but not any further. Sloppy defense, with misstakes all over the pitch, the own goal being the most notable of them. If they had met a better team than Croatia this would've been a loss, but Croatia didn't capitalize on their opportunities enough, they were of course also unlucky with the refs inability to remain unaffected by the crowd. He would've never given Croatia a penalty kick if a Croatian had fallen like that. The crowd got to him and he blew his whistle prematurely.........

I wouldn't agree too much on what you say here. While dani alves did pretty bad on his side; there wasn't much marcelo could do about this goal, the croatian centered very well and marcelo already had the impulse and the ball was comming directly to him, it was much harder to put it outside rather than in (unlike most own goals). You can't blame marcelo that much on this. Brazil didn't have much midfield, very difficult to move the ball from the defense to the attackers; by the time it reach the attackers all the croatian defensive system was in place and the brazilians were pretty static. let's wait and see.

Nothing Marcelo could have done I agree, the main mess up was Luiz letting the attacker get in front of him. I like Daivd Luiz but he's not a central defender imo, plays much better just in front of the defense.

Think the main problem Brazil have is at goalkeeper though, dude couldn't get a game at QPR playing in the English Championship.

[Trevor33]

There was certainly no way Brazil were going to be allowed to lose that match given all the crap that has surrounded the Cup. Hopefully that will be the last of it and Croatia will finish second in the group. I do fear for Spain, Holland or Chile in the last 16 though.

Btw how good was Oscar tonight? Best I've ever seen him play.

Neymar and Oscar played really well, they don't play like that for their clubs that is for sure.
The ref showed serious home crowd bias which is a shame and the Croatian goalkeeper should have done better. Not sure why they subbed Jelavic, I know the Hull City man isn't the greatest but they were chasing the game and there was a corner shortly after the subbing he would have been perfect to get his head on it.

Neymar plays out of position at Barce, Bale and Ronaldo work because they like playing on either side and coming in but Neymar and Messi just want to float around behind the main striker. Can't both get their way. Can't say the same about Oscar though... he was pretty bad the last few months of the season, a bit like Nani in a Portuguese shirt.

[DiM]

If anything the brazilian government is the one to blame given how they are spending public funds for this world cup and that is why there are so many social protests

yeah and fifa is an innocent little boy who had no idea the crap the brazilian government was in.
let's be serious, fifa should make sure the organizers are capable of providing the best conditions for football. that includes anything from infrastructure to social approval to weather conditions. the fact that fifa agreed with brazil being the host despite horrible infrastructure and almost zero social approval is clear something fishy was going on. it's just that, unlike the qatar world cup, we don't have any proof of whatever bribes were given.

Concerning qatar in 2022 ii am sure it will be relocated. There are enough proofs of corruption and that qatari people have been giving money under the table for votes. It is impossible to make it happen in summer and it will f*ck all domestic competitions as that year basically they would have to make the wc happen in winter.. Blatter said he would be ok to vote again for that world cup. It s in 8 years so there is time to change minds.

and you're sure because blatter called you and told you he's moving it? because you saw the world cup organizing rights being revoked from qatar? let's be serious, when that amount of money goes from one hand to another the deal is done. there's no going back. qatar will host the games even if they have to play all of them at weird hours to avoid the day heat and take water breaks every 5 minutes.

[betiko]

If anything the brazilian government is the one to blame given how they are spending public funds for this world cup and that is why there are so many social protests

yeah and fifa is an innocent little boy who had no idea the crap the brazilian government was in.
let's be serious, fifa should make sure the organizers are capable of providing the best conditions for football. that includes anything from infrastructure to social approval to weather conditions. the fact that fifa agreed with brazil being the host despite horrible infrastructure and almost zero social approval is clear something fishy was going on. it's just that, unlike the qatar world cup, we don't have any proof of whatever bribes were given.

Concerning qatar in 2022 ii am sure it will be relocated. There are enough proofs of corruption and that qatari people have been giving money under the table for votes. It is impossible to make it happen in summer and it will f*ck all domestic competitions as that year basically they would have to make the wc happen in winter.. Blatter said he would be ok to vote again for that world cup. It s in 8 years so there is time to change minds.

and you're sure because blatter called you and told you he's moving it? because you saw the world cup organizing rights being revoked from qatar? let's be serious, when that amount of money goes from one hand to another the deal is done. there's no going back. qatar will host the games even if they have to play all of them at weird hours to avoid the day heat and take water breaks every 5 minutes.

So what s wrong exactly about the infrastructures? So far so good. Let s criticize when there will be a screw up. The sotchi olympics started in the most horrible way and ended up being pretty well organized, the first days were just ridiculous.

Unless you don t know, elections for the presidency for the FIFA will be held soon. Platini wants to run for president and Blatter is starting to mess with him. He said publically that he is ready to rethink the elections of Qatar given the bribes and climate issues, that something is wrong about all this. This is common knowledge, not a private call from blatter.

[Dukasaur]

PS: i hope cameroon and mexico beat the crap out of brazil and eliminate them from the group stages. then the population becomes so upset it starts protests and strikes and the world cup is cancelled.

over reacting much?

nope. not one bit. i would actually be very pleased if this whole tournament would encounter terrible difficulties (strikes, protests, sub-par pitches and stadiums) and it would get cancelled. maybe then some people (from fifa) would get the blame and be forced to step down.
brazil being eliminated would be a possible trigger for social actions that would lead to the cancellation of the tournament.
it has nothing to do with the shitty ref from last night, but rather with my desire that the current WC organising system gets changed. i reckon it would take something really big (like a cancelled tournament) for punitive actions to be taken.

Unfortunately the politics of sport is no different than the politics of anything else. It doesn't matter if you are talking about governments or corporations or sports leagues. There is always a way for the scumbags in power to avoid responsibility.

They will "examine the situation" and then they will find that the fault is they didn't have enough money, and either the taxpayers of the host country will be expected to cough up a little more, or the fans will be expected to cough up a little more, or maybe the groundskeepers will be expected to work longer hours for less pay. Who knows what "solution" they will find. The only thing you can say with absolute confidence is that the little guy will be expected to dig in his pocket just a little bit deeper and the people at the top who precipitated the problem will avoid punishment. If they do decide to have a sacrificial bloodletting at the top, someone will be "forced to resign" with a severance package that will have him singing all the way to his Cayman Islands bank.

[nietzsche]

So what s wrong exactly about the infrastructures? So far so good. Let s criticize when there will be a screw up. The sotchi olympics started in the most horrible way and ended up being pretty well organized, the first days were just ridiculous.

Apparently the surrounding zone of the stadium Mexico is about to beat Cameroon in is a mess, and with the rain people is having a hard time getting to the stadium. The inside of the stadium is well apparently, let's see how the sewage system (sorry don't know the correct term) is working correctly to have a semi decent game with all the rain.

VAMOS MEXICO!!!

Everyone get ready to root for Mexico:

[DiM]

So what s wrong exactly about the infrastructures? So far so good. Let s criticize when there will be a screw up.

so you're saying there's no screw up so far? is the infrastructure just fine? lol

earlier you mentioned the stadium in manaus. a few details: it cost 270 million us dollars, it has a capacity of 46k people in a city whose team averages 4k spectators and it will be used for just 4 games in this world cup. oh and one little detail, it's almost inaccessible by road.
i count this as both a screw up and a shitty infrastructure.

what about the airports, public transportations, missing roads or rail, lack of hotels, the evicted people and leveled favelas, the protests, the strikes, the shitty economy that seems to be getting shittier?

what exactly are you expecting to happen before you consider criticism normal?

[DiM]

hehe

[Gilligan]

Another bullshit call

[betiko]

Lol, this is being the best world cup of incompetent refs i ve ever seen! Second goal cancelled for mexico for no good reason.

[Gillipig]

Can we execute that linesman already? The bastard has cost me money that I should've had if Mexico had been allowed one of those two goals.

[betiko]

Can we execute that linesman already? The bastard has cost me money that I should've had if Mexico had been allowed one of those two goals.

The chinese triads have 5 millions invested on a draw, the ref had to take a decision!

[GoranZ]

Just seemed the Croatian players were arguing more with them selves on missed opportunities. Even after Croatia lead you can tell the Brazilians were penetrating a lot better. The goalie for Croatia just didn't seem to have any spring in his step even thou he did come up with a couple big saves.

very true. you see there is not a good atmosphere within that croatian team, i noticed it too.

Watching their teams in several World Cups they always argue. It is in their nature. I know, I'm one of them.

Sackett58 you don't sound Croatian... you sound like a liar.

Croatian team didn't play according to their abilities... what a rubbish commentary.

Lol, this is being the best world cup of incompetent refs i ve ever seen!.

Yup... seems like they are deliberately killing the fun.

Ironically but Japanese judge showed how rampant is the corruption in the Brazilian society.

[Army of GOD]

Cameroon had a chance on that header but Mexico has it now

[JBlombier]

Congratulations, nietzsche!

Good luck, The Netherlands.

Hup Holland hup!

[AndyDufresne]

To be transparent to you all, I openly am corrupting the officials to negatively impact <insert team you are rooting for>.


--Andy

[Army of GOD]

To be transparent to you all, I openly am corrupting the officials to negatively impact <insert team you are rooting for>.


--Andy

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