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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:41 pm

Morbid time for Boeing. After American Airlines and JetBlue switched to Airbus, now United Airlines is following their footsteps.

United orders 50 long-range Airbus jets to replace older Boeing planes
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:05 am

Boeing: "We have decided to temporarily suspend production on the 737 program beginning next month"

Boeing is suspending production of the 737 Max in January
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby mrswdk on Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:35 am

Another day, another Boeing falling out of the sky:

Ukrainian passenger plane crashes with 170 on board https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51029994

When will this POS third-rate company just come clean, admit it is an irreparable threat to the world’s travellers, and pull down the shutters once and for all?
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby 2dimes on Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:46 pm

Weird how they can't just keep on flying along after breaking up from being struck by something.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby HitRed on Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:50 pm

2dimes wrote:Weird how they can't just keep on flying along after breaking up from being struck by something.


What hit it?
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:13 pm

HitRed wrote:
2dimes wrote:Weird how they can't just keep on flying along after breaking up from being struck by something.


What hit it?

Maybe Boeing design team :shock:
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby 2dimes on Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:31 pm

No one is fessing up yet.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby mrswdk on Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:10 pm

The UK Foreign Office said there's no indication the plane was hit by anything.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby nietzsche on Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:21 pm

stop confusing me, wasn't it hit by boeings design team?
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby HitRed on Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:42 pm

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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby 2dimes on Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:27 pm

Boeings are so crappy you can't even throw coins in the engines for good fortune on take off.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby HitRed on Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:56 pm

If they were real silver it would have worked. No base metals on this airline.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby 2dimes on Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:17 pm

You want good luck on your flight give the pilot some coins.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:58 pm

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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby 2dimes on Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:17 am

HitRed wrote:
2dimes wrote:Weird how they can't just keep on flying along after breaking up from being struck by something.


What hit it?


GoranZ wrote:Tehran Admits Iranian Armed Forces Downed The Ukrainian Aircraft by Human Error

https://www.rt.com/news/477994-zarif-ir ... venturism/


I thought it would take longer to come out.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby mrswdk on Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:28 am

Boeing are probably so afraid of their shitty planes failing that they engineer their black boxes to obscure the source of any issues. It's probably a testament to Iranian efficiency that they managed to crack the enigma as quickly as they did.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby 2dimes on Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:44 pm

Probably.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:24 am

Did Boeing leadership make a HUGE error to RUSH the plane (737 MAX) to sales without adequate safety issues properly vetted? It seems so. And ONE HUGE Negative consequence, besides the deaths of hundreds of innocent people on TWO such planes, is the "golden parachute" for the Boeing CEO after he is fired. As I recall, he received some $67 million Bonus when fired.

There is little doubt that CEOs make TOO MUCH money. So do many or even most leaders. I think humans sometimes value good leadership TOO much.

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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:31 am

Imagine THAT; this Boeing plane was not downed by Boeing mistake(s) in its construction or design. What brings it down? An Iranian missile. THAT never happens RIGHT? It must be a Boeing ERROR...! Say it ain't so.

Finally Iran admits to SHOOTING down the Ukrainian civilian Boeing plane as HUMAN error. Obviously there were many innocent civilians deaths.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/11/iran-admits-shooting-down-ukrainian-airliner-unintentionally
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:37 am

jusplay4fun wrote:Imagine THAT; this Boeing plane was not downed by Boeing mistake(s) in its construction or design. What brings it down? An Iranian missile. THAT never happens RIGHT? It must be a Boeing ERROR...! Say it ain't so.

MH17 Boeing, PS752 again Boeing even the missing MH370 is Boeing. Nosediving JT610 and ET302 are also Boeings.

For the last few years everyone is talking about these 5 plane crashes. So yes it's Boeing!
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:11 pm

As usual, you missed the point I made. I was talking about the Iranians downing a Ukrainian plane.

I was referring to: Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752


GoranZ wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Imagine THAT; this Boeing plane was not downed by Boeing mistake(s) in its construction or design. What brings it down? An Iranian missile. THAT never happens RIGHT? It must be a Boeing ERROR...! Say it ain't so.

MH17 Boeing, PS752 again Boeing even the missing MH370 is Boeing. Nosediving JT610 and ET302 are also Boeings.

For the last few years everyone is talking about these 5 plane crashes. So yes it's Boeing!
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:45 pm

Let's look at Data:

The Boeing 737 Max 8, which made its first flight in 2016, is a popular plane.

Compared to the planes involved in accidents with the most fatalities since 1966, the 737 Max 8 has had more fatalities in its first years in service than any of the other. The McDonnell Douglas DC-9-32, which Delta Air Lines once flew, and the DC-9-31 variant were then next most fatal following their introduction.

Well-known and popular commercial aircraft have been involved in far more fatal accidents than the Boeing 737 Max 8. The 3,065 fatalities onboard the Tupolev Tu-154 are more than any of the 47 aircraft models Quartz analyzed. But commercial staples from Boeing, the 737-200 and 747-200, rank second and third on the list, with 2,910 and 1,664 fatalities respectively.


https://qz.com/1571820/deaths-on-the-boeing-737-max-8-vs-other-commercial-aircraft/

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Commercial airline travel is still safer than driving. The 53 years of data on 47 modern aircraft showed 21,656 fatalities globally, that’s about half the automotive deaths that occur each year in the United States. On a per-mile basis air travel is even safer. Statistics from the US Department of Transportation show that from 2007 to 2016 there were 7,863 highway fatalities per trillion miles of travel in the US. There were only 11 fatalities per trillion miles of commercial flights in the US over the same period.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:26 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:Let's look at Data:

The Boeing 737 Max 8, which made its first flight in 2016, is a popular plane.

Compared to the planes involved in accidents with the most fatalities since 1966, the 737 Max 8 has had more fatalities in its first years in service than any of the other. The McDonnell Douglas DC-9-32, which Delta Air Lines once flew, and the DC-9-31 variant were then next most fatal following their introduction.

Well-known and popular commercial aircraft have been involved in far more fatal accidents than the Boeing 737 Max 8. The 3,065 fatalities onboard the Tupolev Tu-154 are more than any of the 47 aircraft models Quartz analyzed. But commercial staples from Boeing, the 737-200 and 747-200, rank second and third on the list, with 2,910 and 1,664 fatalities respectively.


https://qz.com/1571820/deaths-on-the-boeing-737-max-8-vs-other-commercial-aircraft/

same source for quote below:

Commercial airline travel is still safer than driving. The 53 years of data on 47 modern aircraft showed 21,656 fatalities globally, that’s about half the automotive deaths that occur each year in the United States. On a per-mile basis air travel is even safer. Statistics from the US Department of Transportation show that from 2007 to 2016 there were 7,863 highway fatalities per trillion miles of travel in the US. There were only 11 fatalities per trillion miles of commercial flights in the US over the same period.

Thank you for agreeing with all of us... If allowed Boeing 737 Max would have taken the first place by now
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:37 pm

Agreed? Again, you missed the point.

First place? again, you missed the point.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:07 pm

Boeing had its worst year in 3 decades and lost the title of world's biggest plane-maker
Boeing sales and delivery figures, published by the company on Tuesday, showed a loss of 87 commercial airplane orders compared to its order backlog at the end of 2018, a result of cancelled orders combined with sluggish new purchases.

Although orders have been gradually slowing across the aerospace industry, rival Airbus recorded 768 orders for the year, putting Boeing's woes into even sharper contrast.

Boeing is bleeding for 10 months and the wound looks mortal!

jusplay4fun wrote:Agreed? Again, you missed the point.

First place? again, you missed the point.

MCAS is catching up on Boeing... did I miss the point?
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