Abortion

[s.xkitten]

okay then...we're way off topic now...

[kclborat]

So, You don't believe in right or wrong?

Sorry, but that is a ridiculous twist to her words

[s.xkitten]

So, You don't believe in right or wrong?

Sorry, but that is a ridiculous twist to her words

thank you, but i did point out what i meant...but thanks for the back up

[kclborat]

but one can take all the evidence, weigh it and determine for oneself which viewpoint is strongest based off the evidence and the support

[ksslemp]

So, You don't believe in right or wrong?

Sorry, but that is a ridiculous twist to her words

It wasn't a Statement, It was a Question!

[s.xkitten]

So, You don't believe in right or wrong?

Sorry, but that is a ridiculous twist to her words

It wasn't a Statement, It was a Question!

okay...i said, neither of us is right or wrong...and you took it to mean that i don't believe in right and wrong...how is that not a twist?

[ksslemp]

Though, to be fair, both sides do press their view points on the other. I believe that you could describe jay as a fanatic. However, I have a view (one might call it fanatical) that everyone should use their own minds. I believe that religion has people switch off their minds ignore evidence available to the public. The best thing we have as a human is our mind. Some believe God gave that to us, some don't. But that is not the crux of the problem. The problem is that organized religion is detracting from the general intelligence of the people by advising them to forget, misuse and ignore evidence that may or may not contradict their views.

I Agree with all of this!

[jay_a2j]

So, You don't believe in right or wrong?

no, there is right and wrong...i'm just saying, when it comes to beliefs, we have our opinions, and so neither of us is right or wrong about that

Question? Where does "right" and "wrong" come from?

[s.xkitten]

Though, to be fair, both sides do press their view points on the other. I believe that you could describe jay as a fanatic. However, I have a view (one might call it fanatical) that everyone should use their own minds. I believe that religion has people switch off their minds ignore evidence available to the public. The best thing we have as a human is our mind. Some believe God gave that to us, some don't. But that is not the crux of the problem. The problem is that organized religion is detracting from the general intelligence of the people by advising them to forget, misuse and ignore evidence that may or may not contradict their views.

I Agree with all of this!

me too...i'm amazed...we all agree on something...

[ksslemp]

So, You don't believe in right or wrong?

Sorry, but that is a ridiculous twist to her words

It wasn't a Statement, It was a Question!

okay...i said, neither of us is right or wrong...and you took it to mean that i don't believe in right and wrong...how is that not a twist?

I was poseing a question to see how far out you were. Thats all.
Your'e not crazy in my opinion. whatever that means.

[jay_a2j]

Though, to be fair, both sides do press their view points on the other. I believe that you could describe jay as a fanatic. However, I have a view (one might call it fanatical) that everyone should use their own minds. I believe that religion has people switch off their minds ignore evidence available to the public. The best thing we have as a human is our mind. Some believe God gave that to us, some don't. But that is not the crux of the problem. The problem is that organized religion is detracting from the general intelligence of the people by advising them to forget, misuse and ignore evidence that may or may not contradict their views.

I Agree with all of this!

me too...i'm amazed...we all agree on something...

I don't agree.... but you probably knew that already.

[kclborat]

what are some of the positive benefits from organized religion. i agree, it does have some benefits, but i would like to hear your opinion

[s.xkitten]

Though, to be fair, both sides do press their view points on the other. I believe that you could describe jay as a fanatic. However, I have a view (one might call it fanatical) that everyone should use their own minds. I believe that religion has people switch off their minds ignore evidence available to the public. The best thing we have as a human is our mind. Some believe God gave that to us, some don't. But that is not the crux of the problem. The problem is that organized religion is detracting from the general intelligence of the people by advising them to forget, misuse and ignore evidence that may or may not contradict their views.

I Agree with all of this!

me too...i'm amazed...we all agree on something...

I don't agree.... but you probably knew that already.

that would be for the reason that you can't agree with anyone that doesn't see your view 100%

[ksslemp]

I choose to leave the question of Gods existence as an open question.

If you think about it, You may someday Know that God exists but you will Never know that God doesnt exist!

[s.xkitten]

god does exsist...it just has two parts, a male and a female...never said it didn't

[ksslemp]

Though, to be fair, both sides do press their view points on the other. I believe that you could describe jay as a fanatic. However, I have a view (one might call it fanatical) that everyone should use their own minds. I believe that religion has people switch off their minds ignore evidence available to the public. The best thing we have as a human is our mind. Some believe God gave that to us, some don't. But that is not the crux of the problem. The problem is that organized religion is detracting from the general intelligence of the people by advising them to forget, misuse and ignore evidence that may or may not contradict their views.

I Agree with all of this!

me too...i'm amazed...we all agree on something...

I don't agree.... but you probably knew that already.

that would be for the reason that you can't agree with anyone that doesn't see your view 100%

Talk about "Close-Minded"!

[ksslemp]

oops i quoted the wrong post, go back 1 and eliminate kittens last post.

[jay_a2j]

what are some of the positive benefits from organized religion. i agree, it does have some benefits, but i would like to hear your opinion

Religion is man made. Althought many of the religions in the world teach good standards to live by; love your neighbor, do not kill, turn the other cheek etc. Only one has the truth. The way to God. And its not even a religion, its a relationship with God.

[s.xkitten]

so, i'm not...jay boy is? okay, was gonna say something, but i won't...and there is an edit button....

[areon]

How about when a man and woman are in a relationship? The woman gets pregnant, the father wants to have the child but the mother wants to abort it. Too bad for the man. Even if it is his child she is carrying the woman has final say if that child lives or dies. So, what about equal rights for men who want their kids?

Yes because there are SO many men who want to raise kids as a single parent(or future wife) but are being held back by women choosing to 'kill' a single cell.[/sarcasm]

I'm sorry but that isn't basis for abolishing abortion.

[jay_a2j]

Talk about "Close-Minded"!

I'm close-minded because I disagree with that post? So, I'm not allowed to have my own oppinion? (Is this a black kettle thing?)

[s.xkitten]

more then one cell though...

[kclborat]

I choose to leave the question of Gods existence as an open question.

If you think about it, You may someday Know that God exists but you will Never know that God doesnt exist!

Well put!

[s.xkitten]

Talk about "Close-Minded"!

I'm close-minded because I disagree with that post? So, I'm not allowed to have my own oppinion? (Is this a black kettle thing?)

heh heh heh...no, this is you not accepting other people religions...

[kclborat]

Jay, specifically, with which parts of my statement about organized religion do you disagree?