Game of Thrones (series spoiling only!)

by **Symmetry** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:05 am

betiko wrote:Also, speaking of which... I've been wondering something since season 1: is arya's swordmaster dead??? you don't see him die, arya leaves him when he's fighting a few soldiers with a wooden sword, but then he's such a badass that he might have gotten away with it...

I wouldn't put it past him to resurrect that character. The man ran out of ideas after book 3.

by **betiko** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:15 am

ooge wrote:Well that certainly was a kick in the but,after the first season and what happened to Ned Stark,I was wondering if this was going to be a series were only the honorable suffer.I had told myself if they killed the dwarf,I was going to throw in the towel on this series.There are story lines in this I find uninteresting,The girl with the dragons for example.The dwarfs character I probably like the most,so if they had killed him I would have lost interest.

i'm with ooge. If anything happens to Tyrion I'll be way too pissed and could drop out. (ooge you got to make an effort and know the name at least of the starks, the lannisters and daenerys! :lol:

)

Anyways, I've been expecting Robb to die anytime soon since he became king of the north. I've been expecting Cathlyn to die at some point... but both at the same time, never! You just didn't realize before their death how starks are nothing without them.

by **betiko** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:16 am

Symmetry wrote:
betiko wrote:Also, speaking of which... I've been wondering something since season 1: is arya's swordmaster dead??? you don't see him die, arya leaves him when he's fighting a few soldiers with a wooden sword, but then he's such a badass that he might have gotten away with it...

I wouldn't put it past him to resurrect that character. The man ran out of ideas after book 3.

i think he just ran out of characters :lol:

by **Symmetry** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:21 am

betiko wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
betiko wrote:Also, speaking of which... I've been wondering something since season 1: is arya's swordmaster dead??? you don't see him die, arya leaves him when he's fighting a few soldiers with a wooden sword, but then he's such a badass that he might have gotten away with it...

I wouldn't put it past him to resurrect that character. The man ran out of ideas after book 3.

i think he just ran out of characters

If only.

by **BigBallinStalin** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:17 pm

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I've got to say that the TV series has done a better job on selling Tywin as a threat than in the books.

Really? I agree until Tywin strolled into King's Landing and got the position of the Hand. Immediately afterward he was explicitly planning the moves.

What is great about the series is seeing Tywin verbally dominate his family members. Seeing the body language underscores that threat, which a book obviously can't convey as effectively.

So you agree?

On different margins, so not completely.

by **BigBallinStalin** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:18 pm

Army of GOD wrote:Once the bedding scene happened I totally knew it was coming for some reason.

Yeah, man, totally.

by **Symmetry** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:28 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I've got to say that the TV series has done a better job on selling Tywin as a threat than in the books.

Really? I agree until Tywin strolled into King's Landing and got the position of the Hand. Immediately afterward he was explicitly planning the moves.

What is great about the series is seeing Tywin verbally dominate his family members. Seeing the body language underscores that threat, which a book obviously can't convey as effectively.

So you agree?

On different margins, so not completely.

How so?

by **BigBallinStalin** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:40 pm

I already explained that in my post. Feel free to reread it.

by **ooge** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:22 pm

betiko wrote:
ooge wrote:Well that certainly was a kick in the but,after the first season and what happened to Ned Stark,I was wondering if this was going to be a series were only the honorable suffer.I had told myself if they killed the dwarf,I was going to throw in the towel on this series.There are story lines in this I find uninteresting,The girl with the dragons for example.The dwarfs character I probably like the most,so if they had killed him I would have lost interest.

i'm with ooge. If anything happens to Tyrion I'll be way too pissed and could drop out. (ooge you got to make an effort and know the name at least of the starks, the lannisters and daenerys! )

Anyways, I've been expecting Robb to die anytime soon since he became king of the north. I've been expecting Cathlyn to die at some point... but both at the same time, never! You just didn't realize before their death how starks are nothing without them.

I know bud,really. I have a great memory but names particularly if they are unusually I am lost.But TYRION I cant get over just how awesome an acting job this guy does as well as his father,The king just sounds like a whinny little B#tch.

by **betiko** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:37 pm

I think all actors are pretty good. Joffrey is actually really good, he plays awesomely his role. All these face mimics that make you really want to hate him...

I hope jaimie comes back to king s landing on next episode, seems like the case from the trailer.

by **thegreekdog** on Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:42 pm

Symmetry wrote:
betiko wrote:Also, speaking of which... I've been wondering something since season 1: is arya's swordmaster dead??? you don't see him die, arya leaves him when he's fighting a few soldiers with a wooden sword, but then he's such a badass that he might have gotten away with it...

I wouldn't put it past him to resurrect that character. The man ran out of ideas after book 3.

I often wonder whether he didn't expect to get past book three and therefore didn't plan ahead. I actually wonder that about a lot of "more than 3 book" series. I can't really blame a writer for getting to book three in what was originally a trilogy and saying "shit, I'm making so much money, I should write 3 more books."

by **betiko** on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:50 am

by **waauw** on Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:54 am

lmao!!

by **nagerous** on Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:32 pm

by **Army of GOD** on Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:02 am

betiko wrote:

I wonder who Sack-master is.

by **betiko** on Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:12 am

oh well, no death in this last episode?

I so loved joffrey's scene where he is jumping around so happy because robb is dead with that smile, then comes up with the genious idea of robb's head to be served to sansa on his wedding! This guy is a genius! Too bad grandpa sent him to bed with no supper! This guy is getting funier every time and I kind of wish to see him stick around, without joffrey s jokes we would be missing good laughs!

Ok so arya and the hound are becomming friends or what? Looks like it isn't a good sign when arya throws that coin at you!

Lord greyjoy's character kind of makes no sense to me, there is no reason to despise his son that much, mostly being his only heir..

Baelish has totally disapeared for the last 2-3 episodes, that's wierd.

Jon snow, back at castle black with all his fellow crowes.. It's strange, looks like there is no fuss about mormont's death, did the rebels bring a new side to the story?

Black fish, nice to see he's alive, will be helpfull to the starks, as there is basically no more adult to mentor them... And good to know that the tullys weren't plotting assholes. Ok, so if baelish becomes lady aryn's husband, and lady aryn is insane... Will she want vengeance for her familly? If I remember correctly she didn't even come to her father's funeral? bitch.

Sansa-Shae-Tyrion... what an odd little love triangle! Bad move from Varys, now it will look as if tyrion asked him to do that and tyrion might get mad at him... Wonder how whill the baelish-varys relation will evolve as they are quite competitive to one another...

Jaimie, thought we would see more about his comeback... thought this episode would be much more about that... Didn't even hear cersei's reaction...

by **Bones2484** on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:21 am

betiko wrote:Baelish has totally disapeared for the last 2-3 episodes, that's wierd.

Don't forget we saw him sail off. Not much storyline on the open waters

by **waauw** on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:34 am

something bad should happen to daenerys
things are going way too smooth

by **MegaProphet** on Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:18 am

Good episode, but I think it'd have been better if the red wedding was the season finale.

by **kizkiz** on Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:02 pm

Sounds like they've completely changed the ending of the book. There should have been a major shock

by **Bones2484** on Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:05 pm

kizkiz wrote:Sounds like they've completely changed the ending of the book. There should have been a major shock

The season was only the first 2/3rds of book 3. Pretty much ended right after the Red Wedding.

by **ooge** on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:43 pm

betiko wrote:oh well, no death in this last episode?

I so loved joffrey's scene where he is jumping around so happy because robb is dead with that smile, then comes up with the genious idea of robb's head to be served to sansa on his wedding! This guy is a genius! Too bad grandpa sent him to bed with no supper! This guy is getting funier every time and I kind of wish to see him stick around, without joffrey s jokes we would be missing good laughs!

Ok so arya and the hound are becomming friends or what? Looks like it isn't a good sign when arya throws that coin at you!

Lord greyjoy's character kind of makes no sense to me, there is no reason to despise his son that much, mostly being his only heir..

Baelish has totally disapeared for the last 2-3 episodes, that's wierd.

Jon snow, back at castle black with all his fellow crowes.. It's strange, looks like there is no fuss about mormont's death, did the rebels bring a new side to the story?

Black fish, nice to see he's alive, will be helpfull to the starks, as there is basically no more adult to mentor them... And good to know that the tullys weren't plotting assholes. Ok, so if baelish becomes lady aryn's husband, and lady aryn is insane... Will she want vengeance for her familly? If I remember correctly she didn't even come to her father's funeral? bitch.

Sansa-Shae-Tyrion... what an odd little love triangle! Bad move from Varys, now it will look as if tyrion asked him to do that and tyrion might get mad at him... Wonder how whill the baelish-varys relation will evolve as they are quite competitive to one another...

Jaimie, thought we would see more about his comeback... thought this episode would be much more about that... Didn't even hear cersei's reaction...

go back to the first page of this thread,and read my theory,I posted it before this season began.

by **betiko** on Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:10 am

well pretty sure they are going to need to help each other against the white walkers, and it's not with a couple of daggers and arrows that they will get rid of all of them. Brann has kind of gone for a "frodo in mordor" quest and will be very important I guess.
Other than this, seems like stannis is up for some white walkers action, lannisters/freys/boltons/tyrells/arryns/targaryens don't seem to care or to be aware of it yet. Greyjoys still have other stuff to deal with.
And still no martells in play?

oh and the season finale's cliffhanger is total crap. i was watching it through streaming and it got blocked just when the daenerys scene came up. Had to wait 40 minutes to watch the end of the episode... for this????

but yeah waauw, I said this a few episodes ago, also think some crap will happen to daenerys, she is on such a win streak that something bad needs to happen. y the way, I had a games of throne conversation with a friend on sunday, and I was surprised to hear that daenerys was one of his most hated characters. I really thought everyone liked her, she is depicted as a very positive character in my opinion. Maybe a macho thing, he doesn't like powerful women? I don't get it. Anyone else here doesn't like her?

by **Sniper08** on Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:39 am

MegaProphet wrote:Good episode, but I think it'd have been better if the red wedding was the season finale.

Episode 9 in each season is usually the big one (Ned dying in S1 , Battle of blackwater bay in S2) and Episode 10 usually gives dany the big moment and sets up next season for most character's.

by **Haggis_McMutton** on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:51 am

betiko wrote: y the way, I had a games of throne conversation with a friend on sunday, and I was surprised to hear that daenerys was one of his most hated characters. I really thought everyone liked her, she is depicted as a very positive character in my opinion. Maybe a macho thing, he doesn't like powerful women? I don't get it. Anyone else here doesn't like her?

I hate her guts.
It has nothing to do with being a strong woman. I don't even see her as that strong of a woman. f*ck almost every other woman in this series seems to be at least as strong as her. Catelyn, Cersey, Shea, Arya, Margaery, the older Tyrell woman.
Daenerys is more of an arrogant, naive child who somehow always wins. She really sticks out like a sore thumb in a world that is otherwise dark and gritty. How many ridiculous mistakes has she made now? How many times would she have died if she were another character? Seriously, lets just count the ridiculously lucky breaks that she got with no effort on her part: Being let into Qarth because of that guy's machinations. Being severely underestimated by the warlocks. Being severely underestimated by the slave owner guy to the point that his actions are idiotic. The mercenary guy betraying his friends for no adequate reason and joining her instead of killing her. Surviving two? assassination attempts through sheer, blind luck. What else? I'm sure I'm missing some.

And what has she actually done? Directly caused her husband's death, (this was back when her stupidity/naivete was still being punished) and now appears to have set out on some misguided quests to end slavery in the world. How was that last scene not incredibly cringe-worthy? She says "you owe me nothing" to the great unwashed masses that she has liberated and then they worship her as mother. Is she the second coming of Christ and thus her incredible streak of luck is due to god's favour? Otherwise her story-line makes no fuckin' sense in a world that's supposed to be realistic and gritty.

Daenerys is basically the equivalent of putting John McClane in The Godfather trilogy. It makes no fuckin' sense and undermines the tone of all the other stuff going on. Now that she has the inevitable mercenary/love interest who might as well be called "prince charming", I'm really starting to get scared that she might be GRRM's Mary Sue, which would really be a huge downer.
I really, REALLY, hope GRRM is pulling my leg on this one and that she will meet a gruesome fate (or at least some huge setback that teaches her to smarten the f*ck up). On the other hand he might be keeping her as to throw a bone to the people who just want fairytale escapism and cannot handle a realistic, dramatic tale without a "knight in shinning armour" character.

Phew. I think that rant was good for me. Had that stuff pent up for too long.