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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:21 pm

Symmetry wrote:
KoolBak wrote:We don't have a watch. The sign in my driveway, on my house and on my shop says "Protected by a Doberman". The sign on my door says "We don't dial 911; owner is armed". Another sign on my shop says "Trespassers will be shot; survivors will be shot again".

I leave the keys in my truck and my house unlocked; haven't had a problem in 22 years.

The sign I want to get is this one, but all my neighbors are armed too.... :lol:

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Of course, you're also telling any potential robber that they better be well armed if they want to rob you.



If there is one thing I know about criminals, they like to do things the easy and the fast way.
Still plenty of low hanging fruit for criminals to target. They don't really like to work for things any more than they need to.
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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:19 pm

Phatscotty wrote:So really the police can not do anything to stop the crime unless they happen to be in the right place at the right time


Can the police stop a crime if they're not present where the crime is being committed? This sounds like a physics question rather than a criminal justice question. Doesn't mviola or john9blue study physics? Maybe one of them can answer it.

The Crime I referred to is the plague on this community in the last few months and calls for a wtachman, or security guard, or gateman, or whatever


You keep using the terms "security guard" and "neighborhood watch volunteer" interchangeably. I don't know why.
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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby keiths31 on Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:08 am

KoolBak wrote:I leave the keys in my truck and my house unlocked; haven't had a problem in 22 years.

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Me too. Doors unlocked, valuables left in the backyard, vehicle doors left unlocked, etc. Haven't had an issue in 27 years. Also don't have a gun. Love living in Canada.
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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:47 pm

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Phatscotty wrote:So really the police can not do anything to stop the crime unless they happen to be in the right place at the right time


Can the police stop a crime if they're not present where the crime is being committed? This sounds like a physics question rather than a criminal justice question. Doesn't mviola or john9blue study physics? Maybe one of them can answer it.

The Crime I referred to is the plague on this community in the last few months and calls for a wtachman, or security guard, or gateman, or whatever


You keep using the terms "security guard" and "neighborhood watch volunteer" interchangeably. I don't know why.


Right, so then the overall question might become, why even call the police at all? The term I am trying to apply is one that is recognized as conscious of the crime situation and acting to stem it. Whatever totem pole that is, I know Zimmerman was at the very bottom of it. I have been wondering recently if perhaps he was personally affected by a previous crime himself and had some kind of agenda? IE a victim of a crime and therefore more likely to act to prevent more similar crimes in the future.
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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:26 pm

Phatscotty wrote:I have been wondering recently if perhaps he was personally affected by a previous crime himself and had some kind of agenda? IE a victim of a crime and therefore more likely to act to prevent more similar crimes in the future.


The "I was abused as a child" line does sometimes works to evade liability.
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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:34 pm

I meant in the last couple months....

I know after the ragtop on my convertible got sliced for the first time, I was up the next few nights wishing they would come back...
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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:43 pm

Phatscotty wrote:I meant in the last couple months....

I know after the ragtop on my convertible got sliced for the first time, I was up the next few nights wishing they would come back...


And if someone came back and started smashing the bonnet with a sledge hammer you'd have every right to tackle them, punch them, beat them with a baseball bat, shoot them, stab them, mouth-rape them, tie them up with rope and roast them over an open fire before cannibalizing their remains, or whatever.

If someone came back and stood on the sidewalk leering at your car and cackling wickedly, though, you can't do that. You could, however, call the police and - if they were still there when the police officer arrived and the police officer had reasonable suspicion they were about to commit a crime - he could conduct a stop and frisk to further ascertain their purpose.
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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby comic boy on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:45 pm

Phatscotty wrote:I meant in the last couple months....

I know after the ragtop on my convertible got sliced for the first time, I was up the next few nights wishing they would come back...


Real hard men dont keep boasting about what they can or will do , wanabees do that a lot though.
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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:27 pm

comic boy wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I meant in the last couple months....

I know after the ragtop on my convertible got sliced for the first time, I was up the next few nights wishing they would come back...


Real hard men dont keep boasting about what they can or will do , wanabees do that a lot though.


It looks like that real hard man in the first post was talking about what he did, and fyi Saxi, it was more like this...

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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby natty dread on Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:37 am

Neighborhood watchman's responsibility is to watch if neighbors wear hoods or not.
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Re: Neighborhood Watchmen Responsibilities

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:03 am

Phatscotty wrote:


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