rdsrds2120 wrote:Also, don't listen to natty. Bill Gates kicked his puppy when he was 7, and he hasn't recovered.
No, it's more like Bill Gates is attempting to take away our freedom and we need to fight back.
The truth is, when it comes to computer software we already live in a post-scarcity economy. But the thing is, most people don't know it. Most people are still in the matrix, and it's like we try to feed them the red pills but they're like "oh I know this blue pill makes me really sleepy, it's bad for my teeth and it takes away my boner but every one eats them and I don't want to bother changing my habits".
What's a "post-scarcity economy"?
An economy in which that particular item (in this case computer software) is not scarce or hard to find, but once was.
First, Bill Gates is a Role Model, and not in charge of Microsoft anymore. Steve Ballmer is the new CEO, and he's a total moron. Just look at Microsofts direction after Bill left.
If I could remove Metro from Windows 8, it would be Windows 7 with a nifty Service Pack installed.
Windows Vista/7 introduced 64-bit, which allows for more than 4gb ram, which is great. If you are running XP you should upgrade to Windows 7.
Metro might be fine on a Tablet, but for a desktop/laptop it's horrible. Worse than horrible. I'd rather not use a computer than use Metro. If you try it in a VM or via Remote Desktop, you are going to stab your eyes out with a fork.
AndyDufresne wrote:Everyone should just get PC-Enabled Kinect, so you can yell commands at your computer and do fancy moves with your hands.
--Andy
Did you know microsoft states in the EULA that they can turn on the kinect's camera and microphone to spy on you if they want to?
I didn't know.
I'd like to say I'm shocked and surprised by this... but honestly? I'm not.
It's like Microsoft and apple are in a competition, who can screw over their customers the most.
No, I think Apple's innovation is legitimate... but Windows is trying to jump on that bandwagon and can't quite, so as a result it is more-or-less a copycat.
Actually, now that I think about it, I think Windows ripped off a lot of stuff from Apple. It might have gone both ways, though.
Renewed yet infused with apathy. Let's just have a good time, all right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjQii_BboIk
This is a great article/review about Windows 8. It's definitely long though, as it covers pretty much everything. Fantastic read if you are interested. Fear and Loathing and Windows 8 http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com.a ... ows-8.html
I forgot to mention how THRILLED I am that they are including the Metro interface in Server 2012. It's been so incredibly difficult to manage the 6000 tablets I have racked in the datacenter. Having a touch-based GUI is going to make my job SOOOO much easier. Wait, I'm getting an update. Oh, I don't actually have 6000 tablets racked in the Datacenter, turns out I have 6000 SERVERS racked in the Datacenter. Not a single touch screen. f*ck, not a single server is even hooked to a monitor. Shit. I guess I'll still be configuring them through Remote Desktop. OH shit. Have you tried to use Metro over Remote Desktop? I have. It blows. f*ck me.
AndyDufresne wrote:Everyone should just get PC-Enabled Kinect, so you can yell commands at your computer and do fancy moves with your hands.
--Andy
Did you know microsoft states in the EULA that they can turn on the kinect's camera and microphone to spy on you if they want to?
I didn't know.
I'd like to say I'm shocked and surprised by this... but honestly? I'm not.
It's like Microsoft and apple are in a competition, who can screw over their customers the most.
No, I think Apple's innovation is legitimate... but Windows is trying to jump on that bandwagon and can't quite, so as a result it is more-or-less a copycat.
Actually, now that I think about it, I think Windows ripped off a lot of stuff from Apple. It might have gone both ways, though.
Apple's innovation is... what? What does that even mean?
Does "legitimate innovation" require you to basically enslave chinese workers and torture them to death if they accidentally lose a prototype? Does legitimate innovation mean throwing legal threats at your customers if they dare to use your products in ways you don't want them to be used?
Apple & microsoft = same shit in a different package. Both try to sell you their overpriced products and attempt to tell you what you can or can not do with them.
It's like if I buy a car, and it comes pre-installed with a device that makes it impossible to buy gas except from certain gas stations which are in partnership with the car manufacturer... and if I try to remove the device, the manufacturer says "hey now, you're not allowed to do that, you're endangering other car users if you fill your car with gasoline we haven't approved... also, don't change the engine, battery, tires, paintjob or make any other changes in your car, or we'll sue you. But hey, do you want to buy these fuzzy dice you can hang from your mirror? They cost $900. Oh, that reminds us - you're not allowed to install any 3rd-party fuzzy dice in your car. It would endanger your car security."
AndyDufresne wrote:Everyone should just get PC-Enabled Kinect, so you can yell commands at your computer and do fancy moves with your hands.
--Andy
Did you know microsoft states in the EULA that they can turn on the kinect's camera and microphone to spy on you if they want to?
Luckily I don't own one. I just happened to read a news article about all the Kincet-tinkerers out there who are doing some nifty things with the technology.
AndyDufresne wrote:Everyone should just get PC-Enabled Kinect, so you can yell commands at your computer and do fancy moves with your hands.
--Andy
Did you know microsoft states in the EULA that they can turn on the kinect's camera and microphone to spy on you if they want to?
Luckily I don't own one. I just happened to read a news article about all the Kincet-tinkerers out there who are doing some nifty things with the technology.
--Andy
The device sounds amazing in it's capabilities for it's cost.
natty dread wrote:Apple's innovation is... what? What does that even mean?
Does "legitimate innovation" require you to basically enslave chinese workers and torture them to death if they accidentally lose a prototype?
now i'm not a fan of apple, in fact i'm sick and tired of seeing iphones everywhere but what you're saying is just plain bullshit. nobody is enslaving those workers. in fact most of them are very happy to work for apple. sure the hours are long and the payment is shit (compared to other countries) but when the alternative is to be jobless then what apple offered was great.
nokia opened a factory in romania. cheaper labour than in western europe. to open this factory they had to close one in germany and move the production here. the germans protested but there was nothing that could be done. and guess what? soon after that the germans started complaining about nokia and even suggesting a boycott on their products because they were mistreating the romanians and treating them like slaves. supposedly it was inhuman to work more than 40 hours per week and get only a few hundred euros for this. in the meantime all the romanians at the factory were thanking god for this factory and they were the happiest. sure, they didn't get the german wages and they probably worked more but still it was far better to be working for nokia than not to be working at all. then they closed this factory and moved in asia. probably china.
“In the beginning God said, the four-dimensional divergence of an antisymmetric, second rank tensor equals zero, and there was light, and it was good. And on the seventh day he rested.”- Michio Kaku
The workers were eventually coaxed down after two days on top of their three-floor plant in Wuhan by Foxconn managers and local Chinese Communist party officials.
Foxconn, which manufactures gadgets for the likes of Apple, Sony, Nintendo and HP, among many others, has had a grim history of suicides at its factories. A suicide cluster in 2010 saw 18 workers throw themselves from the tops of the company's buildings, with 14 deaths.
In the aftermath of the suicides, Foxconn installed safety nets in some of its factories and hired counsellors to help its workers.
The latest protest began on January 2 after managers decided to move around 600 workers to a new production line, making computer cases for Acer, a Taiwanese computer company.
"We were put to work without any training, and paid piecemeal," said one of the protesting workers, who asked not to be named. "The assembly line ran very fast and after just one morning we all had blisters and the skin on our hand was black. The factory was also really choked with dust and no one could bear it," he said.
So the story goes that a 25-year-old man at Foxconn – where iPhones are born – was to send 16 iPhone prototypes to Apple from the Chinese factory, but one was lost somewhere. The Foxconn security department then proceeded to illegally search the man’s apartment and interrogated him. But that was too much for the man that might be responsible for leaking a prototype of the next iPhone.
A few days ago on July 16, he jumped from a 12-story building because of the incident. It’s probably not out of the realm of possibilities that he not only was roughed up, but also lost his job even though that’s not mentioned in the report.
This incident will of course raise flags about Apple’s super-secret policy and work conditions at Foxconn in China. People will call for action and change from Apple, but the policies probably will not change. Some folks might even boycott the iPhone for a while, but that won’t last long. This event will likely be filed away with the Wall Street fund managers who couldn’t take their high-pressure jobs either. Sad.
bedub1 wrote:First, Bill Gates is a Role Model, and not in charge of Microsoft anymore.
This needs to be repeated. Bill Gates is a Role Model, he gave a super big chunk of his money in Charity, and furthermore he is trying to convince others to give some of their fortune for charity as well.
He tried to convince Carlos Slim but I believe Bill Gates got out of the meeting having agreed to give a part of the money he had left to Slim.
bedub1 wrote:Metro might be fine on a Tablet, but for a desktop/laptop it's horrible. Worse than horrible. I'd rather not use a computer than use Metro.
This is what I thought after I first saw it. I think they are moving towards that point, but we will need another shell for desktop computers really (including laptops). If they could separate the shell from the kernel, they could have it easier to have different shells for different types of uses.
Those big icons are useful too in desktops, but to very specific tasks, not for multitasking or for full productivity. or instance, my mom uses a touchscreen desktop computer for productivity reasons, and she works very good with apps with big buttons, she has learned very well, and I bet she wouldn't if I had had to teach her to work with a mouse and all that hidden apps. She's just been using computers for like 3-4 years now, and she's quite old.
So my point is, divide the OS in kernel, plugins for the kernel and shells, and you can have it all.
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yep. bullshit. ofcourse you have to realise the situation of each country. what might seem torture and slavery to an englishman could very well be heaven on earth for somebody in a poor country.
how many people in your country would work 60 hours per week for less than 150 euros per month? and in most cases those money would be given with no employment records so no insurance and healthcare. would you call that slavery? how about jobs where you work in unsafe conditions? or where the boss hits you and curses you and treats you like his own personal servant? would this be considered slavery? well in romania it's not. there are people that work like that. and you know what's worse? sometimes they don't get their wages until 2-3 months later and in this time they resort to loaning and they live in absolute misery, and yet they don't quit their job? why? because the alternative is to either be jobless or steal. now imagine in some countries it is even worse than this. you can't really know what serious poverty is until you've seen it with your own eyes. when you have no food you'd do any job no matter how hard or under what sort of miserable conditions. sure some people eventually break and suicide. but they probably would have died of hunger sooner if it had not been for that job. you live in a wealthy country. you're fortunate. probably the crappiest job in your country still pays better than most of the jobs in my country. and i'm sure that the guy that has that crappy job can still afford the bare necessities like food and shelter. and if they're somehow unable to get a job the state probably provides some sort of shelters for the poor. in my country that doesn't happen. hard working people end up on the street homeless. people that did honest work and held simple jobs for 40-45 years are now forced to search through trash for scraps of food because after working all those years their pension is now under 100 euros. the house that they built or bought is now without running watter or heat cause they can't pay the bills. and i'm living in the capital of romania. imagine there are worse places in my own contry. i can't even think what could be like in even poorer countries. last winter the weather was really harsh, much harsher than usual. i saw 2 people dead on the street because of the cold. they had no place to live and wound up frozen during the night. in the year 2012 in the european union. yeah. so for people like these, trust me living at a chinese apple factory is a dream come true.
“In the beginning God said, the four-dimensional divergence of an antisymmetric, second rank tensor equals zero, and there was light, and it was good. And on the seventh day he rested.”- Michio Kaku
(it's a video and there's some other stuff in the beginning so if you're not interested just keep skipping forward until you get to the review part)
If this is Windows 8, then I can safely say I'll never go near it. Also, I lol'd how Solitaire never worked.
I'm probably just going to get Linux on my next laptop anyway. I don't use my laptop for games or anything so I don't need it to be ridiculously advanced.
lol. you're joking, right? those guys appear to be some sort of idiots.
when the review started one of the guys says: G1: "wow, the icons are so flat and nice and especially big" and the other guy says: G2: "you're right. it's awesome the icons are so big. now i can throw away my 28" monitor and use a 17" because even on a 17" screen i'll see the icons perfectly." G1: "imagine how much office space you'll save and how cheaper the 17" monitor is compared to a 28" one.
at this point i'm thinking: "are these guys retarded? you get a 28" to see the icons of the old windows? you didn't get it for movies/games/photo editing?"
couldn't watch after this.
“In the beginning God said, the four-dimensional divergence of an antisymmetric, second rank tensor equals zero, and there was light, and it was good. And on the seventh day he rested.”- Michio Kaku
