Corruption in Olympic Sports

[chang50]

I understand the argument to remove all judged sports from the Olympics.

The problem is that some events,brilliant spectacles tho they might be are simply not sports,they are wrongly classified.I would include here,Gymnastics,Synnchronised swimming and diving,Ice skating.I would leave in the martial arts,boxing and wrestling although they have judging you can still win without them being used.

[Pope Joan]

This seems like an appropriate article:
http://1045theteam.com/american-tv-neglected-the-saddest-story-in-the-olympics/

How is it appropriate? This seems like an honest mistake (resetting the timer) and the consequences of it, someone's decision to count it in what happenned. Whichever way it went, the losing side would have all the reasons to be upset. All this is aggravagated by the stupid rule to stay on the field of play while the appeal is beeing considered

Timminz wrote:
I understand the argument to remove all judged sports from the Olympics.

The problem is that some events,brilliant spectacles tho they might be are simply not sports,they are wrongly classified.I would include here,Gymnastics,Synnchronised swimming and diving,Ice skating.I would leave in the martial arts,boxing and wrestling although they have judging you can still win without them being used.

Look, almost all sports are judged, and the outcome of many games like football or basketball can be easily altered by a corrupt official. The problem is not judging per say, but persistent judging abuse for whatever a reason, i.e., judges obviously for themselves making unfair decisions and the corresponding federation doing nothing to correct it. IMHO, this is a problem in boxing and figure skating; and this why these two sports should be thrown out of the olympics untill they get their house in order. It is definitely not a problem in diving. I do not follow either gymnastics or synchronised swimming or martial arts to form an opinion.

[General Brock II]

Boxing is clearly a joke in the Olympics... I have seen to many farces and bad calls that it really isn't funny. Guys who dominate the matches are losing. As I read earlier, it should be a knockout - first guy to hit the mat and stay for five seconds is out (typically ten seconds was the rule, but Olympian athletes don't want to be hurt - wimps). The referees are necessary to keep boxers from dirty hits, clinching etc. but there should be no judges to determine a scoreline.

I'm not entirely certain how fencing could be seen as a cheating sport? There are, of course, methods to throw off the buzzer. However, any person who does so will be kicked out of the tournament (and, quite possibly, following tournaments... cheating in fencing is dealt with harshly). The Judge's only points-awarding role while a match is underway is to observe the blinking lights and award the point to whichever person hit the other, first. They do have access to slow-motion replay, as far as I'm aware, so I don't think too many points are arbitrarily awarded (and if the player things that it is, they can challenge the call).

Arthistic Gymnastics? Never heard of those! Are they for arthritic gymnasts?

One thing I believe should be changed is that volleyball and badminton judges should have a wireless connection to an official who has slow motion replay. That way, if a challenge is issued, they have access to the replay - much like hockey or Gridiron football referees have access to it. It would only be used if the call is challenged by the coach (not the player, since players constantly whine at the referees).

[Woodruff]

This seems like an appropriate article:
http://1045theteam.com/american-tv-neglected-the-saddest-story-in-the-olympics/

How is it appropriate? This seems like an honest mistake (resetting the timer) and the consequences of it

Honest mistake? Perhaps. The consequences of it...I'd say that the fact it wasn't overturned absolutely makes it relevant to this thread.

Whichever way it went, the losing side would have all the reasons to be upset.

No. The person who "won after the clock should have been well past stopped" would not have reason to be upset. It wasn't a close call.

[General Brock II]

This seems like an appropriate article:
http://1045theteam.com/american-tv-neglected-the-saddest-story-in-the-olympics/

How is it appropriate? This seems like an honest mistake (resetting the timer) and the consequences of it

Honest mistake? Perhaps. The consequences of it...I'd say that the fact it wasn't overturned absolutely makes it relevant to this thread.

Whichever way it went, the losing side would have all the reasons to be upset.

No. The person who "won after the clock should have been well past stopped" would not have reason to be upset. It wasn't a close call.

Ahh yes, of course. I tend to agree with that chap's entire article... What about the Canadian team jumper who was disqualified because her horse was scratched?

[GreecePwns]

Why they would have a 15 year old volunteer in charge of timekeeping at an Olympic event is beyond me.

[Gypsys Kiss]

It wasnt a mistake by the timekeeper. Time hadnt run out, but the timer system used didnt show fractions of seconds.....so the clock was reset to 1 second. something not noticed by the Korean.


The moral is play to the whistle........

What about the Canadian team jumper who was disqualified because her horse was scratched?

That story I dont know about, but they will not let a horse compete if it is injured in any way

[Pope Joan]

Boxing is clearly a joke in the Olympics... ).

Just proved with Evans (GB, off course) defeating Clayton (Canada) in 69kg At least Anthony had a good fight with Savon that he lost but was given the victory by the corrupt judges. But here Evans was the mother of all punchbags. How he could win it is totally beyond human comprehention.

Ban the boxing!!

One thing I believe should be changed is that volleyball and badminton judges should have a wireless connection to an official who has slow motion replay. That way, if a challenge is issued, they have access to the replay - much like hockey or Gridiron football referees have access to it. It would only be used if the call is challenged by the coach (not the player, since players constantly whine at the referees).

In both of these sports, it is usually (99.9%) clear without slow motion whether the ball/shuttle is in or out. It is in deep contrast with tennis where the small ball is travelling too fast to register in/out comfortaby with the human eye...

[Woodruff]

This seems like an appropriate article:
http://1045theteam.com/american-tv-neglected-the-saddest-story-in-the-olympics/

How is it appropriate? This seems like an honest mistake (resetting the timer) and the consequences of it

Honest mistake? Perhaps. The consequences of it...I'd say that the fact it wasn't overturned absolutely makes it relevant to this thread.

Whichever way it went, the losing side would have all the reasons to be upset.

No. The person who "won after the clock should have been well past stopped" would not have reason to be upset. It wasn't a close call.

Ahh yes, of course. I tend to agree with that chap's entire article... What about the Canadian team jumper who was disqualified because her horse was scratched?

Really dumb terminology question because I'm an equestrian moron..."scratched" as in a "very minor injury" or "scratched" as in "disqualified"?

It seems to me that if a horse is scratched, doesn't that make the rider HAVE to be scratched? Admittedly, I'm not much on equestrian events, so I'm pretty clueless...but wouldn't the rider-horse relationship have to be exceedingly close to be competitive?

[notyou2]

How about soccer? (Football if Europeans are going to get predictably pissy about it)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... -play.html
I demand illiterate refs!

The Canadian women got robbed yesterday in their soccer match due to bad officiating.

[GreecePwns]

Oh yeah, that was terrible. Who actually calls the goalie 6 second rule? I think that may be like the second time I've seen it called in my life. And then the handball when protecting the face, which isn't a handball anywhere ever.

[General Brock II]

This seems like an appropriate article:
http://1045theteam.com/american-tv-neglected-the-saddest-story-in-the-olympics/

How is it appropriate? This seems like an honest mistake (resetting the timer) and the consequences of it

Honest mistake? Perhaps. The consequences of it...I'd say that the fact it wasn't overturned absolutely makes it relevant to this thread.

Whichever way it went, the losing side would have all the reasons to be upset.

No. The person who "won after the clock should have been well past stopped" would not have reason to be upset. It wasn't a close call.

Ahh yes, of course. I tend to agree with that chap's entire article... What about the Canadian team jumper who was disqualified because her horse was scratched?

Really dumb terminology question because I'm an equestrian moron..."scratched" as in a "very minor injury" or "scratched" as in "disqualified"?

It seems to me that if a horse is scratched, doesn't that make the rider HAVE to be scratched? Admittedly, I'm not much on equestrian events, so I'm pretty clueless...but wouldn't the rider-horse relationship have to be exceedingly close to be competitive?

I think that you are right, Gypsy - if a horse is injured in any way, the rider ought to be prevented from jumping. The "scratched" I was referring to was "small injury," and, as a result, she was "scratched" from the competition. The thing is, not every horse is called for such a minor flesh wound. And the coach/rider both obviously felt that the horse would be completely fine, despite the injury. That call may not have been the most controversial, but it seems par to the course these Olympics have taken.

Yes, the Evans fight... Don't get me started on that. I wouldn't mind so much if Evans had kept on fighting. He clearly owned the first round... And then he stopped. He was certainly the better fighter, in my opinion, but he did not work at it in the last two rounds. And he won the flipping match!!! Give me a break.

Yes, the officiating in that game was interesting... However, the girls were certainly responsible for anything they may have said to the referee after the match, and it would have served them right to be disciplined. Self responsibility and self discipline were well absent, in that case. They are ambassadors for Canada, after all - supposedly mature, adult females. And yet even the captain joined in with yapping at the referee.

Clayton lost with a lot more grace, for certain. And I would laugh if our women's football team lost to France.