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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:02 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Oh dear. The thread has evolved into ANOTHER ARGUMENT WITH THE ANTI-EVOLUTIONISTS. That's not what it was for. Time to abandon ship.


You are so naive my friend.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby jonesthecurl on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:06 pm

I'm trying to see what other common ground those who deny evolution have. Not give everybody another place to shout at them - there's plenty of those already.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby jonesthecurl on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:08 pm

I'm trying to see what other common ground those who deny evolution have. Not give everybody another place to shout at them - there's plenty of those already.


Actually, when I've got a moment or two to spare I might try again, and take the lead of Viceroy above, doing this one question at a time.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:26 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:I'm trying to see what other common ground those who deny evolution have. Not give everybody another place to shout at them - there's plenty of those already.


I understand what you are trying to do. You just give too much credit to the members of this forum to stay uninvolved when requested :)
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby Army of GOD on Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:09 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:After this post I intend to say no more in this thread.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby Viceroy63 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:24 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:I'm trying to see what other common ground those who deny evolution have. Not give everybody another place to shout at them - there's plenty of those already.


Actually, when I've got a moment or two to spare I might try again, and take the lead of Viceroy above, doing this one question at a time.


And that would be the best way. Look at what happens in other post when they generalize the topic. It digresses into ridiculousness. That is why I am so trying to stay on just one topic in the "An Unproven Hypothesis..." thread. Even though there are a lot of ridiculousness and anger aimed at me, but it's not my fault. It takes all kinds to make a world.

But I would agree with you. Create a specific thread and then after a long while you can see what people believe and understand through all of those threads.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby AAFitz on Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:35 pm

Viceroy63 wrote:If that is what you would like for me to do? Otherwise all I can say is that the earth is older than 6,000 Years old but not more than 4.5 billions.


You really went out on a limb on this one.

Its also perhaps the only true fact youve ever posted, unless the earth is 4.5000000000000000000000000000000000000001 years old.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby crispybits on Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:16 pm

When you restart the thread jones, could you possibly add "why do we have an appendix and a coxxic (sp)?" to your list of questions please
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby new guy1 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:33 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Oh dear. The thread has evolved into ANOTHER ARGUMENT WITH THE ANTI-EVOLUTIONISTS. That's not what it was for. Time to abandon ship.


Mhmm, I see what you did there.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby Neoteny on Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:40 pm

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jonesthecurl wrote:Oh dear. The thread has evolved into ANOTHER ARGUMENT WITH THE ANTI-EVOLUTIONISTS. That's not what it was for. Time to abandon ship.


Mhmm, I see what you did there.


You could say he punctuated this thread.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby Army of GOD on Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:20 pm

f*ck, no, no more fucking puns
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:23 pm

Army of GOD wrote:f*ck, no, no more fucking puns


No more pucking funs? Thought you'd be happy that the NHL lockout is done.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby Neoteny on Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:25 pm

Army of GOD wrote:f*ck, no, no more fucking puns


It's just a selected reading.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:39 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:Jones - I know you would violate your own thread rules if you answered your own questions, but just for the sake of completeness, how would you answer questions # 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 11?

The question is, tgd, are you going to fill in the list? Seriously though, I think that number 11 is one of the most interesting since a great deal of people believe there are aliens despite the complete and total lack of evidence of such a thing. I'm imagining it was included in the list because creationists aren't supposed to believe in aliens but I'm not really sure why anyone would.


What I wanted to test was whether jones would give a specific answer to those questions or say "I don't know." If he gave a specific answer, I would shrug and probably sigh. If he typed "I don't know" I would have clapped.
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Re: Re:

Postby GoranZ on Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:00 pm

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GoranZ wrote:Told the truth


Not appropriate in this thread, thank you.


jonesthecurl wrote:Oh dear. The thread has evolved into ANOTHER ARGUMENT WITH THE ANTI-EVOLUTIONISTS. That's not what it was for. Time to abandon ship.


When you put it like "ANTI-EVOLUTIONISTS" you irritate the EVOLUTIONISTS, if you want "Bible only" answers then you should not irritate the evolutionists with your title... meaning you should change it ;)
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Funkyterrance wrote:I think a strong point that needs to be made here is that most people believe evolution is fact because they heard it from a textbook, from a teacher, on the internet, etc.. All of the information regarding evolution is gathered from a handful of scientists yet it's considered so concrete by so many. Gravity, thermodynamics and such can be proven through experiments in any ordinary lab yet evolution requires great leaps of faith in the certainty of a relatively small scientific community. Why then is evolution accepted by so many so readily?

leaps of faith? what are you talking about?... evolution doesn't require any leaps of faith, opposite from what you believe in which directly require that you see the truth and to believe in lies

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thegreekdog wrote:Jones - I know you would violate your own thread rules if you answered your own questions, but just for the sake of completeness, how would you answer questions # 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 11?

The question is, tgd, are you going to fill in the list? Seriously though, I think that number 11 is one of the most interesting since a great deal of people believe there are aliens despite the complete and total lack of evidence of such a thing. I'm imagining it was included in the list because creationists aren't supposed to believe in aliens but I'm not really sure why anyone would.

Statistically we should not be alone but we never know, anyway if we find life in 100+ planets and moons in the solar system then we are not alone. And we should explore most of these places by the end of this century tho.

Viceroy63 wrote:If you believe that life can be created naturally then you agree that life can arise out of mud??? Very scientific?

The problem is that evolutionists don't believe in the theory of evolution, they know that its true, on the other hand you don't know that your theory works that's why u need to believe in it. There is a huge difference.
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Re: Re:

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:44 pm

GoranZ wrote:Captain is abandoning ship? Such man is regularly called coward.



I didn't abandon it until after it sank.

Oh yes, and man like you is regularly called toilet-head.
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Re: Re:

Postby GoranZ on Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:12 am

jonesthecurl wrote:
GoranZ wrote:Captain is abandoning ship? Such man is regularly called coward.



I didn't abandon it until after it sank.

Oh yes, and man like you is regularly called toilet-head.
Just saying.

The infamous "Captain Coward" from Costa Concordia used similar sentences when his ship was sinking and he was "organizing" rescue mission :lol:
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:06 am

You realize that this thread was not "my" ship? That I pushed it out onto the water so the anti-evolutionists could have somewhere to see what else they agree on or not? That people who have plenty of other places to shout at them didn't read what I said and jumped in once again to rehearse the exact same stuff that's in a dozen other threads, rather than stand back and see what emerged?
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby GoranZ on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:29 am

jonesthecurl wrote:You realize that this thread was not "my" ship? That I pushed it out onto the water so the anti-evolutionists could have somewhere to see what else they agree on or not? That people who have plenty of other places to shout at them didn't read what I said and jumped in once again to rehearse the exact same stuff that's in a dozen other threads, rather than stand back and see what emerged?

Evolutionist who are wast majority in the world generally don't like the word "anti-evolutionists"... But if you used Creationists or Believers then hardly which evolutionist would have wasted time in your thread.
As it is with your title you want to irritate evolutionists and you want they to not respond... You can not do both, chose only 1.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:33 am

If you're expecting me to defend creationism you don't know me too well.
This thread (as you'll find if you bother to read rather than just jump in) was specifically for people who have announced elsewhere that they believe evolution to be untrue to talk amonst themselves and see how well their beliefs fit together in other areas. I still think this would be a worthwhile project, but people such as yourself make it bloody impossible. I really am getting quite irritated about this.
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:49 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:If you're expecting me to defend creationism you don't know me too well.
This thread (as you'll find if you bother to read rather than just jump in) was specifically for people who have announced elsewhere that they believe evolution to be untrue to talk amonst themselves and see how well their beliefs fit together in other areas. I still think this would be a worthwhile project, but people such as yourself make it bloody impossible. I really am getting quite irritated about this.

I have stayed out of this until now, but since its abandoned.. I, too, think it is a worthy goal. However, a big problem is that there is little real unity, except that evolution is just wrong.. usually (but not always) because the bible Says it is so.

If you are truly interested, try reading the stuff that the Institute for Creation reasearch, formerly of Pasadena, CA, but since moved to Texas
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(of course, if you just want to know what CC posters say on this... maybe a change of title???)
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Re: Only for anti-evolutionists

Postby comic boy on Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:21 am

I think I can solve the puzzle , 99% of 'anti - evolutionists' are Young Earth Creationists with connections to an evangelical protestant ministry.....Do I win ?
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