don't talk about Baseball in the Baseball 2019 thread...

[Keefie]

Isn't it about time this bore received a long term ban ?

[jimboston]

trolling (present participle)
1.make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

You don’t think this definition exactly resembles your actions in this forum?

[jimboston]

Isn't it about time this bore received a long term ban ?

+1

... but let’s make. it permanent and be done with it.

[xroads]

Isn't it about time this bore received a long term ban ?

+1

... but let’s make. it permanent and be done with it.

+2

[NomadPatriot]

Isn't it about time this bore received a long term ban ?

I see Keefie got the anti-Dave Chappelle Memo..

for what exactly Keefie..?

hmmm. isn't your comment the exact definition of Trolling..

you intentionally pop into this conversation & insult me

how ironic & predictable

but I have no doubt you will … even though I haven't broken any rules of the forum..
it just seems that when I expose the double standard of the CC representatives. I get threatened with a ban.. this is about the 4th time this has happened..

- I do not post unedited profanity
- I do not post hate speech
- I have logical debates with people civilly
- I present my side of things with inks to the information I am referencing
- if I make claims againist another person I back-up those claims with evidence in the form of actual quotes from that person..


but I do notice CC representatives do tend to not apply the rules of the site to themselves..

you poor souls try ganging up on me daily.. & are so destroyed that you can not even handle me anymore.. begging for me to be banned for nothing..

typical Left-Wing Extremist ideology on full display

[nietzsche]

Common sense prevails - if you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you may be removed from it. It's that simple.

Neither do the By-Laws from the Podunk 3rd district. Believe it or not, Conquer Club is a private business. Just because something works one way in another community does not mean that is how it will work here. We're usually less strict and you can get away with a lot, but that doesn't mean that you can pull the "This is how it works everywhere else" card and expect to get away with it. Really. This is not "everywhere else."

In the same vein, just because you are here, does not mean you MUST be here. This is a business and CC does reserve the right to promote or discourage any kind of behavior it sees fit. Claiming your first amendment right to free speech to post about the colour of your poop last night will not fly. If a mod or admin specifically say you shouldn't be doing something, regardless of if it's specifically spelled out in the rules, or if you think that they are stupid, it still means don't do it. If you don't like the rules here, google.com will help you find somewhere more appropriate.

Be nice or leave

1. Do NOT be intentionally destructive - If you do anything that harms or can be perceived to harm this site you may be removed from it.

3. Do not push boundaries - If you are asked to stop by a member of the moderation team then STOP. Do not continue and do NOT persist.

[NomadPatriot]

Common sense prevails - if you are intentionally or continually making this community less enjoyable for others, you may be removed from it. It's that simple.

Neither do the By-Laws from the Podunk 3rd district. Believe it or not, Conquer Club is a private business. Just because something works one way in another community does not mean that is how it will work here. We're usually less strict and you can get away with a lot, but that doesn't mean that you can pull the "This is how it works everywhere else" card and expect to get away with it. Really. This is not "everywhere else."

In the same vein, just because you are here, does not mean you MUST be here. This is a business and CC does reserve the right to promote or discourage any kind of behavior it sees fit. Claiming your first amendment right to free speech to post about the colour of your poop last night will not fly. If a mod or admin specifically say you shouldn't be doing something, regardless of if it's specifically spelled out in the rules, or if you think that they are stupid, it still means don't do it. If you don't like the rules here, google.com will help you find somewhere more appropriate.

Be nice or leave

1. Do NOT be intentionally destructive - If you do anything that harms or can be perceived to harm this site you may be removed from it.

3. Do not push boundaries - If you are asked to stop by a member of the moderation team then STOP. Do not continue and do NOT persist.

someone who has gotten bans numerous times would know those things by heart ..

I get called everything in the book..
I get CUSSED OUT CONSTANTLY
I get called names by CC staff..

and then those same people want me banned BECAUSE THEIR ATTACKS DO NOT WORK ON ME..

THE BULLIES CAN'T BULLY ME.. SO THEY WANT ME REMOVED..
f-ing HIILARIOUS

Trump 2020

[mookiemcgee]

Isn't it about time this bore received a long term ban ?

+1

... but let’s make. it permanent and be done with it.

+2

+3

[HitRed]

This is so fitting.

[NomadPatriot]

This is so fitting.

welcome to Conquer Club.....

[mookiemcgee]

This is so fitting.

So... A guy posts a bunch of shit voluntarily in a game forum that he found god knows how. He's free to stop posting and leave anytime, and he's not a paying user of the site. Other (paying) users of the site are annoyed and suggest he be banned for simply being an annoying troll that adds nothing to the community. No bans to his completely free account have ever happened...and he just continues to post garbage and try to frame himself as a martyr.

In your view this is comparable to a big brother Gov't censoring intelligence by killing kids ?

[NomadPatriot]

This is so fitting.

So... A guy posts a bunch of shit voluntarily in a game forum that he found god knows how. He's free to stop posting and leave anytime, and he's not a paying user of the site. Other (paying) users of the site are annoyed and suggest he be banned for simply being an annoying troll that adds nothing to the community. No bans to his completely free account have ever happened...and he just continues to post garbage and try to frame himself as a martyr.

In your view this is comparable to a big brother Gov't censoring intelligence by killing kids ?

key wording --> " Other (paying) users of the site are annoyed "

not everyone who is a premium paid for it.. & suggesting 'paying members' should be allowed to dictate who is allowed on the website or be able to control what happens just because they are Annoyed and got their feelings hurt is a typical Left Wing Extremist position...

just because you are annoyed.. doesn't mean I have done anything wrong...
you are free to ignore me Snookie.. no one forces you to read my posts or forces you to respond to them..

and in the words of the mighty Razorvich " if you do not like what someone posts ignore it. .if you do not want to even see it.. foe them.. "

it is that simple..

[HitRed]

{List of moderators saying foe and move on}

[mookiemcgee]

This is so fitting.

So... A guy posts a bunch of shit voluntarily in a game forum that he found god knows how. He's free to stop posting and leave anytime, and he's not a paying user of the site. Other (paying) users of the site are annoyed and suggest he be banned for simply being an annoying troll that adds nothing to the community. No bans to his completely free account have ever happened...and he just continues to post garbage and try to frame himself as a martyr.

In your view this is comparable to a big brother Gov't censoring intelligence by killing kids ?

key wording --> " Other (paying) users of the site are annoyed "

not everyone who is a premium paid for it.. & suggesting 'paying members' should be allowed to dictate who is allowed on the website or be able to control what happens just because they are Annoyed and got their feelings hurt is a typical Left Wing Extremist position...

just because you are annoyed.. doesn't mean I have done anything wrong...
you are free to ignore me Snookie.. no one forces you to read my posts or forces you to respond to them..

and in the words of the mighty Razorvich " if you do not like what someone posts ignore it. .if you do not want to even see it.. foe them.. "

it is that simple..

Yawn.

More crybaby rants about how poorly you are treated, when you act like a tool in every thread.

How is it left wing extremism to believe a private corporation should be able to decide what it wants to do with it's problematic customers (or not so much a customer as freeloader in your case). By your logic it's a left wing extremist belief that a bakery should be able to decide who it wants or doesn't want to sell it's wedding cakes to... except it's the exact opposite. Your acting like there is some bill of rights you signed when created your account. Trolls get banned on the internet, welcome to 2019!

[NomadPatriot]

Yawn.

More crybaby rants about how poorly you are treated, when you act like a tool in every thread.

How is it left wing extremism to believe a private corporation should be able to decide what it wants to do with it's problematic customers (or not so much a customer as freeloader in your case). By your logic it's a left wing extremist belief that a bakery should be able to decide who it wants or doesn't want to sell it's wedding cakes to... except it's the exact opposite. Your acting like there is some bill of rights you signed when created your account. Trolls get banned on the internet, welcome to 2019!

where did I say the corporation ( Conquer Club ) shouldn't be allowed to decide what to do on their own website. ?
quote me on that..

I am not referring to Conquer Club the private company as the left wing extremist in this scenario.... I was referring to certain individual members... but looks like that flew right over your head..

you stated "he's not a paying user of the site. Other (paying) users of the site are annoyed and suggest he be banned for simply being an annoying troll that adds nothing to the community. No bans to his completely free account have ever happened"

so you are complaining about the corporation ( conquer club ) is not listening to your suggestion.... you are complaining that since you suggested something .. that Conquer Club should be forced to do as you suggest. and when they didn't because they haven't considered what I do a ban-able thing. you act like a crybaby about it..

but on your bakery scenario... private companies are just that. a private company . they can decide to do whatever they want to do as a private corporation. they should not be forced by the paying customers to do something just because the paying customers do not like another customer who gets a different product from the private company that the private company offers for free to everyone.

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so Snookie.. would you force a Privately Owned Muslim bakery to bake Bacon Crumble Muffins ??
even though the Koran says if a Muslim touches Pork they go to hell..

of course you would... they are a Privately Owned bakery and they should be forced to bak.. oh wait. their Muslim .. you can't … the Koran says that if... wait uh.. um.. ( need to reboot.. system failure.. )
your bakery scenario isn't working anymore.. is it..
because if you can force a Christian to do something that violates their religious beliefs.. then you HAVE to force the Muslim to do the same thing even though it violates their religious beliefs...

why would you want to send Muslims to Hell Snookie??
sounds... Islamophobic... Snookie….

[jimboston]

suggesting 'paying members' should be allowed to dictate who is allowed on the website or be able to control what happens just because they are Annoyed and got their feelings hurt is a typical Left Wing Extremist position...

Funny.

This sounds WAY MORE like a Right Wing position.

It sounds like a Country Club where the rich people don’t want the drabble... or maybe it’s the free market in operation?

The website is a for-profit business. If the paying customers are annoyed by the non-paying drabble, then why isn’t within our right to demand from the operators the removal of said annoyances? If not, we (the paying customers) can threaten to boycott and therefore put the finances of the for-profit enterprise at risk. It’s simple economics, and as a private enterprise Conquer Club is within their right to ban people who constantly disrupt the community. You can claim you “haven’t violated the rules”... but you delight in being disruptive, so you can’t deny that is an accurate characterization of your actions.

[jimboston]

1) Conquer Club is not a bakery... and even in your stupid scenario you have things a bit backward from the real life scenarios that are being debated. In no instance would the government demand a bakery cook with ingredients that they don’t use. I can’t go into a gluten-free bakery and demand a gluten filled cookie.

2) You do not have a religious ‘right’ to insult people.

3) Your activities routinely disrupt the community. If the customer in your imaginary bakery was disruptive and insulting like you they would just be asked to leave... and the reason for denying service would be “customer was disruptive and insulting” end of story.

Your analogy fails on many levels.

[2dimes]

Tough to decide what the best part of this topic is.

Accusing me of derailing my thread in the op, by quoting when I was scolding his partner in ruining the forum or his inability to use an apostrophe.

[NomadPatriot]

The website is a for-profit business. If the paying customers are annoyed by the non-paying drabble, then why isn’t within our right to demand from the operators the removal of said annoyances? If not, we (the paying customers) can threaten to boycott and therefore put the finances of the for-profit enterprise at risk.

Left-Wing Extremism defined to a tee..

--> "do as we demand because our feelings got hurt or else we will threaten you. .. "

[tzor]

suggesting 'paying members' should be allowed to dictate who is allowed on the website or be able to control what happens just because they are Annoyed and got their feelings hurt is a typical Left Wing Extremist position...

Funny.

This sounds WAY MORE like a Right Wing position.

Looking at this from a completely neutral viewpoint I found this particularly fascinating. The question of "left and right" is also equally fascinating but since censorship tends to generally come from the "left" these days I would tend to lean towards NP on that particular point.

Throughout this thread I see constant references to the company, but the discussion seems to be mostly around the members, and if the "company" is involved, only indirectly as a single judgement call and to an extent such "debate" is much like arguing balls and strikes, only in this case it is the players who are arguing between themselves, not the actual umpire.

I'm also fascinated by the notion of "paying customers." There is no forum perks for premium; the payment is only to access more parameters of the game. All customers should be more or less equal in the forums. In the ideal world everyone would keep to the topics at hand; there would be no trolling and no personal insulting. Unfortunately, all of this happens all of the time, to various degrees. Rather than throwing out a person because he banged his baseball bat on the roof of the dugout, the general policies here assume you all can act as reasonable adults.

I'm glad I'm not the umpire around here; I hate to have to spend my time squatting between both benches. Now if this was the original game where I could sit in a rocking chair, I might be so inclined (or reclined).

[jimboston]

The website is a for-profit business. If the paying customers are annoyed by the non-paying drabble, then why isn’t within our right to demand from the operators the removal of said annoyances? If not, we (the paying customers) can threaten to boycott and therefore put the finances of the for-profit enterprise at risk.

Left-Wing Extremism defined to a tee..

--> "do as we demand because our feelings got hurt or else we will threaten you. .. "

It’s got nothing to do with feelings.

Your idiotic posts drive paying customers away.

The for-profit enterprise and hurt your feelings by telling you you’re no longer welcome... or they can risk losing money.

The ‘liberal left wing’ move would be to support your right to be an asshole... the conservative business decision is to say “f*ck your feelings” and do what will keep the most paying customers happy.

[jimboston]

Looking at this from a completely neutral viewpoint I found this particularly fascinating. The question of "left and right" is also equally fascinating but since censorship tends to generally come from the "left" these days I would tend to lean towards NP on that particular point.

I understand the ‘left’ can be annoying and that ‘political correctness’ has been taken way too far.

That said, the ‘right’ still has many areas where censorship is their thing....
- The ‘Right’ wants to censor groups like Planned Parenthood from talking about Abortion as an option... in some states doctors or clinics that receive government funding are forbidden from speaking about all the options available to pregnant women.
- The ‘Right’ in many states interjects their political and religious views into public school curriculum.... they demand that “Creationism” be covered by teachers as equal to Evolution, yet one is a religious belief and the other is a scientific fact.

I’m sure if we thought bout it we’d find more current day examples.

Yes, ‘political correctness’ is annoying and often goes to far... but I could argue that the involvement of the ‘right’ in pushing science to the side and interjecting religion is more damaging to our country long-term than a little ‘political correctness’ run amok.

I'm also fascinated by the notion of "paying customers." There is no forum perks for premium; the payment is only to access more parameters of the game. All customers should be more or less equal in the forums.

... and they are.

... but at the end of the day the Forum is an extension of the game and is supposed to foster a sense of community amongst the players. The site is a for profit enterprise, and as a business it’s in their interest to pay attention to their customers. Non-paying customers add value by being additional player, or it=f they are contributing members in the forum in a positive way. Non-paying customers can also spread the word and there is value there also.... but paying customers are the backbone of the site.

You can’t ban a person just because 1 or 3 paying customers complain... that would backfire because the other forum participants would rally to the individual being picked on and you’d piss of more people than you’d make happy.

... but when a person (paying or not) becomes an obvious troll nd just aggravates the vast majority of the community.... it’s a no-brainer.

In the ideal world everyone would keep to the topics at hand; there would be no trolling and no personal insulting. Unfortunately, all of this happens all of the time, to various degrees. Rather than throwing out a person because he banged his baseball bat on the roof of the dugout, the general policies here assume you all can act as reasonable adults.

I agree, but it doesn’t work when a few Trolls come in and ruin it for everyone else.

[NomadPatriot]

The website is a for-profit business. If the paying customers are annoyed by the non-paying drabble, then why isn’t within our right to demand from the operators the removal of said annoyances? If not, we (the paying customers) can threaten to boycott and therefore put the finances of the for-profit enterprise at risk.

Left-Wing Extremism defined to a tee..

--> "do as we demand because our feelings got hurt or else we will threaten you. .. "

It’s got nothing to do with feelings.

Your idiotic posts drive paying customers away.

The for-profit enterprise and hurt your feelings by telling you you’re no longer welcome... or they can risk losing money.

The ‘liberal left wing’ move would be to support your right to be an asshole... the conservative business decision is to say “f*ck your feelings” and do what will keep the most paying customers happy.

pretty sure CC makes money off Ad Revenue it displays to free account holders.. so not sure your logic of them" Losing Money" is even credible..

you actually think the " Left Wing Liberal" move would be to support my freedom of speech & NOT censor me..?....

but I do agree with you on 1 thing.. " the conservative business decision is to say “f*ck your feelings".. --> being ANNOYED is a feeling.. so you and everyone else who is.. ANNOYED.. Jimmy says.. F**k Your Feelings..

[NomadPatriot]

I agree, but it doesn’t work when a few Trolls come in and ruin it for everyone else.

well let's see Jimmy.. you spent a few months trying to call me a racist. but that never worked out for you..
so now you are accusing me of Trolling...

so let's try to figure out what i do in the forums that constitutes Trolling:

1) creating forum topics for members to debate or talk about. --> no . that isn't trolling. members have been doing that for over a decade.

2) posting actual news articles.. --> no.. it's the news. the news isn't Trolling.

3) quoting a website & linking the URL .. --> hmmm no. it's just information... information isn't trolling . members have also been doing that on here for over a decade.

4). um.. maybe let's try .. Responding to members who have replied to something I posted. --> well no.. that isn't trolling either. I am responding to something directed towards me specifically..

5) how about Asking a Question.... --> no . .it's a question. being curious about something isn't Trolling. .

6) I am running out of things .. maybe uh.. Posting an Image or YouTube Video. that has to be Trolling… --> no.. members do that daily on here and have been doing it for over a decade..

7) only thing left is me posting a comment on a thread when I haven't been confronted that isn't a video, an image, a question, a website quote, a news article reference..

so if you have anything that I have posted here in the forums that isn't me responding to someone or that isn't a video, a image, a question, a website quote, a news article reference... & you consider it Trolling.
just quote me and reference where the quote is from. I will be happy to address it in the realm of this Trolling accusation you have accused me of.

we can use the definition of trolling I have already provided for proper defining & to hold myself to the definitions I have already posted for the word Trolling


troll.
VERB
.
trolling (present participle)

1.make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

[jimboston]

Troll: n. Nomad Patriot

That whole last post was a (bad) attempt to Troll me.

You posts routinely meet the definition of Troll you just posted.

I think you know this and are Trolling in your denial to get more reactions... but if you honestly don’t think the majority of your posts meet that definition that you’re deluded.