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Re: China-fication of Tibet

Postby mrswdk on Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:19 pm

Riots in Tibet In 2008 where anyone not ethnic Tibetan was targeted with indiscriminate violence, following which a few thousand rioters were arrested. And here’s an interview with a couple of Tibetans who don’t like the government. This is CONCLUSIVE PROOF that Tibetans want Tibet to become an independent nation state!

Riots in London in 2011 where £200m of damage was done as shops and businesses were attacked and looted, and police were repeatedly violently attacked. And here’s an interview with some Londoners who don’t like the government. This is CONCLUSIVE PROOF that Londoners want London to become an independent nation state!
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Re: China-fication of Tibet

Postby riskllama on Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:22 pm

mrswdk wrote:Riots in Tibet In 2008 where anyone not ethnic Tibetan was targeted with indiscriminate violence, following which a few thousand rioters were arrested. And here’s an interview with a couple of Tibetans who don’t like the government. This is CONCLUSIVE PROOF that Tibetans want Tibet to become an independent nation state!

Riots in London in 2011 where £200m of damage was done as shops and businesses were attacked and looted, and police were repeatedly violently attacked. And here’s an interview with some Londoners who don’t like the government. This is CONCLUSIVE PROOF that Londoners want London to become an independent nation state!


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Re: China-fication of Tibet

Postby mrswdk on Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:42 am

Exactly, llama. Exactly.
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Re: China-fication of Tibet

Postby jimboston on Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:45 am

mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
strike wolf wrote:No. Mrsdwk. We freed half of Oklahoma. Its chinas turn.


You do realise the only people in the world who want Tibet to become an independent nation state are whiny American college students, right?


Oh... and the actual people in/from Tibet.


Sounds like you are very well-informed about the views of people who grew up in and/or currently live in Tibet. I'd love to hear more about your research into this topic.


The native people of Tibet have clearly and vocally expressed their opinions for years all over the world whenever they have an opportunity to do so. I have been in Boston, New York, Paris, London, and Munich and I have seen native Tibetan people volunteer their time (at parks with tables and pamphlets) to spread the word about Chinese oppression of their people and culture. I have seen, stopped at, and spoken to these people.

I have spoken about Tibet with many Chinese people I have been friends with throughout my life. I have never received a clear answer as to why they think China should hold Tibet. None have ever claimed Tibetan people where Chinese, they all were clear that they considered Tibetans to be different... but none could explain why China should hold it. Some gave “self defense” I guess from India? as a reason.

The only honest answer I ever got was from my former boss/employer. She was born in China in the 60’s and grew up in Beijing in the 70’s and 80’s. Her reason was “It’s Chinese culture and tradition, you NEVER give up what you father handed down to you.”. Essentially she just said... our fathers and grandfathers took the country, and now it’s ours. We will never give it up.
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Re: China-fication of Tibet

Postby mrswdk on Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:10 pm

jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
strike wolf wrote:No. Mrsdwk. We freed half of Oklahoma. Its chinas turn.


You do realise the only people in the world who want Tibet to become an independent nation state are whiny American college students, right?


Oh... and the actual people in/from Tibet.


Sounds like you are very well-informed about the views of people who grew up in and/or currently live in Tibet. I'd love to hear more about your research into this topic.


The native people of Tibet have clearly and vocally expressed their opinions for years all over the world whenever they have an opportunity to do so.


The Dalai Lama, Tibet’s spiritual leader, clearly hasn’t received that memo judging by the numerous times he has gone on record stating that Tibet does not want to become independent:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 775261.cms
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Re: China-fication of Tibet

Postby jimboston on Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:39 am

mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
strike wolf wrote:No. Mrsdwk. We freed half of Oklahoma. Its chinas turn.


You do realise the only people in the world who want Tibet to become an independent nation state are whiny American college students, right?


Oh... and the actual people in/from Tibet.


Sounds like you are very well-informed about the views of people who grew up in and/or currently live in Tibet. I'd love to hear more about your research into this topic.


The native people of Tibet have clearly and vocally expressed their opinions for years all over the world whenever they have an opportunity to do so.


The Dalai Lama, Tibet’s spiritual leader, clearly hasn’t received that memo judging by the numerous times he has gone on record stating that Tibet does not want to become independent:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 775261.cms


He knows if he goes that far the Chinese gov’t will have him assassinated.

He’s taking baby steps... let’s start with ending persecution and murder of Tibetan people.
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Re: China-fication of Tibet

Postby mrswdk on Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:20 am

jim wrote:Tibetan people say they want to be independent from China every time they're given the opportunity


Mrs wrote:Tibet's spiritual leader has repeatedly said Tibet doesn't want to be independent


jim wrote:Hang on a second...

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Re: China-fication of Tibet

Postby jimboston on Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:11 am

mrswdk wrote:
jim wrote:Tibetan people say they want to be independent from China every time they're given the opportunity


Mrs wrote:Tibet's spiritual leader has repeatedly said Tibet doesn't want to be independent


jim wrote:Hang on a second...

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So you don’t understand politics and resort to claiming I’m moving the goalposts.

Yah!

This is your go to move when you have nothing to say to defend your position.
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