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Postby Norse on Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:37 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:
Christianity is part of your cultural identity, you become some paganistic pseudo-identitary without recognising it.


No, you are quite fantastically incorrect here.

Christianity may have once been used as a tool to control the masses within my fair land, ruling, to an extent, with an iron-fist. The "witch-hunt" "excommunication" type fear instilled within the otherwise non-religous/pagan european nations by Christianity for centuries was not a "choice matter". Christianity may well have been the religion adopted by most, but it was out of fear rather than spiritual harmony.

Christianity has never been, and never will be a part of my heritage.

I would rather welcome an all singing, all dancing liberal government funfare of flamboyant faggotry than a christianised government.

That, sir, I mean sincerely.
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Postby dinobot on Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:36 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:
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Having said this, a few savage beatings to christians wouldn't go a miss either.


We're not all squealing leftists trying to operate get "twade justice" (an abhorration to every sound economic principle ever devised if there ever was one).

Christianity is part of your cultural identity, you become some paganistic pseudo-identitary without recognising it.


A false pagan... identitary? What the f*ck does that even mean? The rest of your post isn't any better. The only part I can even read, is the part where you claim that the Christianity today, is the same religion as the one founded over two thousand years ago.

Not only is that completely untrue, but the logic you get from that is equally retarded. Gee, so, that means eating off lead plates is cool to... and we totally shouldn't beat up neo-Nazi pedophiles, because in the dark ages, girls were expected to marry at 13 and spend their entire lives barefoot and pregnant! Wow, what irrefutable logic you have.

Here's a tip; other then the knowledge gained from the past, history is useless. And if you don't act on that knowledge, then that's useless to. Hence I think it would be a wonderful idea to kill Christians, as looking back at the past, they really fucked things over. Not to mention anyone who seriously believes any of that tripe, in today's world, is retarded.
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:56 pm

Norse wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Christianity is part of your cultural identity, you become some paganistic pseudo-identitary without recognising it.


No, you are quite fantastically incorrect here.

Christianity may have once been used as a tool to control the masses within my fair land, ruling, to an extent, with an iron-fist. The "witch-hunt" "excommunication" type fear instilled within the otherwise non-religous/pagan european nations by Christianity for centuries was not a "choice matter". Christianity may well have been the religion adopted by most, but it was out of fear rather than spiritual harmony.

Christianity has never been, and never will be a part of my heritage.

I would rather welcome an all singing, all dancing liberal government funfare of flamboyant faggotry than a christianised government.

That, sir, I mean sincerely.


Christianity was intoduced by the great Church fathers to Britain and France, who endured persecutions and resolutely went about their tasks despite the threat of martyrdom. The people of Western Europe accepted the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Grandeure of the Holy Catholic Church of Rome left its mark throughout the lands of Europe, as art and culture flourished based on its Most Holy Doctrine and greco-latin cultural influences. Christianity separated the peoples of Western Europe from the Eastern savages. Christianity allowed us to fight the mohametan hordes, who were soundly defeated by Charles dit le Martel and then later their detestable rule was thrown off our beloved continent by Recoquista in Spain, all due to Christianity's force and driving motivation. It has effectively defined Western Civilization to the same extent as Classical Civilization has. To deny it is folly. What Church, Norse, fought the Bolshevik Red Tide, fights international Masonry, fights homosexuality, fights the abortionnist murderers and defends our Civlization against the islamo-fascists? The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of Rome.

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Postby radiojake on Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:03 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:
Norse wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Christianity is part of your cultural identity, you become some paganistic pseudo-identitary without recognising it.


No, you are quite fantastically incorrect here.

Christianity may have once been used as a tool to control the masses within my fair land, ruling, to an extent, with an iron-fist. The "witch-hunt" "excommunication" type fear instilled within the otherwise non-religous/pagan european nations by Christianity for centuries was not a "choice matter". Christianity may well have been the religion adopted by most, but it was out of fear rather than spiritual harmony.

Christianity has never been, and never will be a part of my heritage.

I would rather welcome an all singing, all dancing liberal government funfare of flamboyant faggotry than a christianised government.

That, sir, I mean sincerely.


Christianity was intoduced by the great Church fathers to Britain and France, who endured persecutions and resolutely went about their tasks despite the threat of martyrdom. The people of Western Europe accepted the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Grandeure of the Holy Catholic Church of Rome left its mark throughout the lands of Europe, as art and culture flourished based on its Most Holy Doctrine and greco-latin cultural influences. Christianity separated the peoples of Western Europe from the Eastern savages. Christianity allowed us to fight the mohametan hordes, who were soundly defeated by Charles dit le Martel and then later their detestable rule was thrown off our beloved continent by Recoquista in Spain, all due to Christianity's force and driving motivation. It has effectively defined Western Civilization to the same extent as Classical Civilization has. To deny it is folly. What Church, Norse, fought the Bolshevik Red Tide, fights international Masonry, fights homosexuality, fights the abortionnist murderers and defends our Civlization against the islamo-fascists? The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of Rome.

non praevalebunt.


Are you a propaganda writer napoleon? You always manage to use the word savage for anyone who isn't a white christian
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:03 pm

Untrue. Hellenic Civilization was far from savage.
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Postby Neutrino on Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:18 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:Untrue. Hellenic Civilization was far from savage.


Ok, white Christian, and any culture that didn't undeniably advance the cause of science (doesn't matter if most of it was wrong) and the arts, a lot.
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Postby Frigidus on Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:38 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:
Norse wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Christianity is part of your cultural identity, you become some paganistic pseudo-identitary without recognising it.


No, you are quite fantastically incorrect here.

Christianity may have once been used as a tool to control the masses within my fair land, ruling, to an extent, with an iron-fist. The "witch-hunt" "excommunication" type fear instilled within the otherwise non-religous/pagan european nations by Christianity for centuries was not a "choice matter". Christianity may well have been the religion adopted by most, but it was out of fear rather than spiritual harmony.

Christianity has never been, and never will be a part of my heritage.

I would rather welcome an all singing, all dancing liberal government funfare of flamboyant faggotry than a christianised government.

That, sir, I mean sincerely.


Christianity was intoduced by the great Church fathers to Britain and France, who endured persecutions and resolutely went about their tasks despite the threat of martyrdom. The people of Western Europe accepted the Gospel of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Grandeure of the Holy Catholic Church of Rome left its mark throughout the lands of Europe, as art and culture flourished based on its Most Holy Doctrine and greco-latin cultural influences. Christianity separated the peoples of Western Europe from the Eastern savages. Christianity allowed us to fight the mohametan hordes, who were soundly defeated by Charles dit le Martel and then later their detestable rule was thrown off our beloved continent by Recoquista in Spain, all due to Christianity's force and driving motivation. It has effectively defined Western Civilization to the same extent as Classical Civilization has. To deny it is folly. What Church, Norse, fought the Bolshevik Red Tide, fights international Masonry, fights homosexuality, fights the abortionnist murderers and defends our Civlization against the islamo-fascists? The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of Rome.

non praevalebunt.


You are aware that at the time of Charles Martel Western Europe was far, far more savage the, say, the Byzantines? Heck, it was only through Arabic centers of learning that the majority of the works of the Ancient Greeks were preserved in the first place. The West only managed to outstride the Middle East because the church slowly lost it's influence while religion remains the major political influence in the Islamic world.
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:46 pm

The whole "great arab enlightenment" is a myth. They stole from ancient civilizations (Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks etc).

The Byzantines were a bastion of civilization to rival the West, but, 1453 happened...and the mohametan hordes sacked the great City of Constantinople.
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Postby Guiscard on Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:55 am

Napoleon Ier wrote:The whole "great arab enlightenment" is a myth. They stole from ancient civilizations (Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks etc).

The Byzantines were a bastion of civilization to rival the West, but, 1453 happened...and the mohametan hordes sacked the great City of Constantinople.


=D>

You get more and more inconceivably ridiculous every day... And more detached from reality.

Lets forget the bits of history we don't agree with. Nice one.
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:28 am

Guiscard wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:The whole "great arab enlightenment" is a myth. They stole from ancient civilizations (Assyrians, Babylonians, Greeks etc).

The Byzantines were a bastion of civilization to rival the West, but, 1453 happened...and the mohametan hordes sacked the great City of Constantinople.


=D>

You get more and more inconceivably ridiculous every day... And more detached from reality.

Lets forget the bits of history we don't agree with. Nice one.


I'm sorry: Do I offend you Guiscard? Am I that outrageous? Oh noes! I contravene teh system! I must be kept away from decent society for daring to contradict the beautiful harmonious vision of happy elves and fairies in lala-pinkopland all free to follow any religion (unless it is so ridiculous as to hold an outdated belief in the historical Jesus).
The arabs are our rightful masters! How dare I make such obscene and flagrant comments undermining their authority! :D
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Postby got tonkaed on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:31 am

i dont know nappy, i think its a rather absurd statement to claim that there was no arab enlightenment, especially when there were christian sources that claimed many arab cities were cities of light compared to their christian contemporaries at the time.

i mean sometimes it just seems your spouting, and this appears it could be one of them.
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Postby Norse on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:32 am

You're way too reasonable a man nap...I would have stuck the knife of justice in, and twisted it many times by now.
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Postby Norse on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:33 am

got tonkaed wrote:i dont know nappy


I just pissed myself laughing.....I agree with nap though.
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:39 am

got tonkaed wrote:i dont know nappy, i think its a rather absurd statement to claim that there was no arab enlightenment, especially when there were christian sources that claimed many arab cities were cities of light compared to their christian contemporaries at the time.

i mean sometimes it just seems your spouting, and this appears it could be one of them.


Because as the arabs swept accross the plains where lay the declining vestiges of ancient civilizations, the scientists, artists, writers and innovators of the land were made to work for the Caliphate. All the arabs did was copy Assyrian advances in astronomy, Babylonian mathematics and Greek geometry, then attribute themselves these qualities, whilst they lived off plunder from their conquests.
I still boil over with rage when the mindless savages who caused some of the world's greatest literary opera to be irrevocably lost through their barbaric ignorance are heralded as being superbly advanced.
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Postby got tonkaed on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:39 am

since i rarely get the chance to do this, and i probably owe it to the prof whose class i didnt really ever invest myself in....heres a quote which i will pretend unequivacly prove my point.

from a late ninth century journal of a european christian traveler.....

"I mention Baghdad first because it is the center of Iraq (modern name, my addition), the greatest city, which has no peer in the east or the west of the world in extent, size, prosperity, abundance of water, or health of climate, and becaust it is inhabited by all kinds of people, town-dwellers and country-dwellers."
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:42 am

Norse wrote:You're way too reasonable a man nap...I would have stuck the knife of justice in, and twisted it many times by now.


I think you work best in the insults department...your support os appreciated. The few of us who have thrown off the yoke of dhimmitude imposed on us by the execrable cancer of pathetic flip-flopping leftists worthy of a sea of jellyfish must form bloc against the valets of the system.
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Postby unriggable on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:42 am

Napoleon Ier wrote:I still boil over with rage when the mindless savages who caused some of the world's greatest literary opera to be irrevocably lost through their barbaric ignorance are heralded as being superbly advanced.


Reminds me of the Europeans who burned all of that Mayan parchment.
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Postby got tonkaed on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:43 am

also, to charge that any conquering civilization does not do this, or that previous civilizations that were in decline were actively engaging in these creative processes in a greater fashion uninterrupted seems to fail to grasp the similar course of events throughout history. Also because of the dynamics of the region when the islamic faith began to move outward, it was not as if these cultures were not at war with one another to begin with, islam arrived out of a region that was undefined in its borders and frequently engaged in conflict. The people spreading islam were in many ways acting par for the course in that time period, and in many ways did not inhibit the cultures of many of the people they conquered, via the famous jizah tax.
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Postby Norse on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:57 am

Napoleon Ier wrote:execrable cancer of pathetic flip-flopping leftists


lol... will be stealing this one from you.

Good work.
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Postby unriggable on Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:58 am

Norse wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:execrable cancer of pathetic flip-flopping leftists


lol... will be stealing this one from you.

Good work.


Use it to describe jay's and millions of other republicans' view of Bush.
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Postby Norse on Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:00 pm

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Napoleon Ier wrote:I still boil over with rage when the mindless savages who caused some of the world's greatest literary opera to be irrevocably lost through their barbaric ignorance are heralded as being superbly advanced.


Reminds me of the Europeans who burned all of that Mayan parchment.


you talking about the spanish? yes?

You know alot about spanish gentics? Their genome is practically half asian, attained after the muslim expansion across the mediteranian.

I would not personally class them as Europeans.

However, I would class you as a jew, having seen your photo. :wink:
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Postby got tonkaed on Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:01 pm

norse how many beers does it take before you and der furher start exchanging hypothetical plans for which races would go first? ten? eight? you woudlnt actually have to be drinking?
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Postby Norse on Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:02 pm

Tonky, what inspires you to make comments such as that?

explain.
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Postby got tonkaed on Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:03 pm

Norse wrote:Tonky, what inspires you to make comments such as that?

explain.


meh, just my shoddy attempts to liken you to a flash in the pan fascist flamer who got some people riled up....let me rephrase the question....how many beers would take before youd at least rank the most useful races with der furher? Genocide is an ugly and unnecessary word.
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Postby Norse on Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:06 pm

Genocide is indeed an ugly word, some word-beauty-experts may see some artistic value in the curving of certain letters within the word "Genocide" but on the whole I agree with you.

Now, more importantly, Genocide as an act is a far greater worry to me, than the aesthetic qualities of the actual print made by the letters itself.

But bugger me, why are we talking about genocide? are you planning to kill someone?

Explain?
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