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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby luns101 on Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:24 am

Nobunaga wrote:... The designations you refer to, (Race)-American, is a fairly recent creation. The use of this language was created by the American left to categorize citizens (and non-citizens) into identifiable groups. It serves the purpose of victim-politics which is a hallmark of the American left. It also breaks populations down into somewhat clearly identifiable voting blocks.

... Think about how often you see news relating to some African-American, Hispanic-American, Asian American group or another. In nearly every instance you will also see a politician, almost assuredly a Democrat, decrying some injustice.

... This structure is essential to the abandonment of American culture in favor of multi-culturalism and all the politics that come with it.

... "Senator (whoever) has done so much for African Americans".

... "Representative (pick a name) fought against (pick a policy), a clear sign that he is out of touch with the (Race)-American community".

... It's really quite absurd.

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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Nobunaga on Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:55 am

luns101 wrote:Have you read Mark Levin's book, Liberty and Tyranny?


... I've been wanting to, Luns. I've been waiting for it to drop off the bestseller lists so the price will drop. That book set records. It's actually quite reassuring (the fact that it sold so many millions of copies).

... I can understand this Kiwi's question. After 12 years abroad, coming home to this was a bit of a shock.

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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:38 am

Phatscotty wrote:The American Media, except for fox news and a few others to a lesser extent, is playing the race card. I for one am paying close attention to this race-bating game, so I know their playbook. I will vouch for 99% of people I know in my country and my state, that racism is a very, VERY minor issue. Please, PLEASE refrain from watching NBC specifically....I don't mind CNN sometimes, but they are advanced players. I Admit I simply could not stand FOX since it's inception, but I am seeing more liberals on their station getting their fair say and a LOT of real, civil debate.

Only someone who already has a firm right wing mindset, who has never heard real liberals and refuses to pay attention to ANY middle ground would possibly say this.

If you want left wing, try Alternative Radio or "Democracy Now", NOT NBC!!!

Really, none of the networks do more than "sound bytes". It is impossible to get much real information in 30 seconds (2 minutes MAX) and apparently that is all the media thinks most americans will stand. Magazines do better, but you have to read a range of publications to get a balanced view.

For a balanced view, NPR offers the most comprehensive coverage. They are slightly liberal in what they cover, but less so in how they cover it (though they waver at times).
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:49 pm

America is most definitely not fixated on race. The elitist media are just helping out the administration in the replacing of the American flag with the Race Card
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby angola on Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:46 am

Phatscotty wrote:The American Media, except for fox news and a few others to a lesser extent, is playing the race card. I for one am paying close attention to this race-bating game, so I know their playbook. I will vouch for 99% of people I know in my country and my state, that racism is a very, VERY minor issue. Please, PLEASE refrain from watching NBC specifically....I don't mind CNN sometimes, but they are advanced players. I Admit I simply could not stand FOX since it's inception, but I am seeing more liberals on their station getting their fair say and a LOT of real, civil debate.



You slay me. Racism is a minor problem? Where the hell do you live, because you certainly don't live in the south or the Northwest or the Northeast or anywhere in America.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Nobunaga on Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:09 am

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Phatscotty wrote:The American Media, except for fox news and a few others to a lesser extent, is playing the race card. I for one am paying close attention to this race-bating game, so I know their playbook. I will vouch for 99% of people I know in my country and my state, that racism is a very, VERY minor issue. Please, PLEASE refrain from watching NBC specifically....I don't mind CNN sometimes, but they are advanced players. I Admit I simply could not stand FOX since it's inception, but I am seeing more liberals on their station getting their fair say and a LOT of real, civil debate.



You slay me. Racism is a minor problem? Where the hell do you live, because you certainly don't live in the south or the Northwest or the Northeast or anywhere in America.


... Where the hell do you live, Angola? Where do you see race as such a huge problem?

<EDIT> Another fine example of race-obsession by Liberal activists, this time at a strip club:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090928/D9B0GN380.html

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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:18 am

Nobunaga wrote:
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Phatscotty wrote:The American Media, except for fox news and a few others to a lesser extent, is playing the race card. I for one am paying close attention to this race-bating game, so I know their playbook. I will vouch for 99% of people I know in my country and my state, that racism is a very, VERY minor issue. Please, PLEASE refrain from watching NBC specifically....I don't mind CNN sometimes, but they are advanced players. I Admit I simply could not stand FOX since it's inception, but I am seeing more liberals on their station getting their fair say and a LOT of real, civil debate.



You slay me. Racism is a minor problem? Where the hell do you live, because you certainly don't live in the south or the Northwest or the Northeast or anywhere in America.


... Where the hell do you live, Angola? Where do you see race as such a huge problem?


...

Sorry Nobunga, but I lost jobs because of race... I was apparently "too friendly" with the "wrong" people. I have heard more than a few back-hand comments about well .. let's just say "them" (stubstitute various racial slurs). Even "minor" incidents like walking up to a hotdog stand and seeing that if you were white, you got to wait to pay until after you get your food. If you were black, you had to pay before they would even consider working on your order.

HOWEVER, and this is the big thing, the question is not so much whether race is or is not a real issue in some places, the question is whether, on a societal level, it overwhelms other issues. In the past, it absolutely did. Now, I would say this so-called "Conservative-Liberal" divide is what really divides people.

And I say "supposed" because its really the FAR right claiming that anything other than their position is "liberal", thus encouraging people to flock further to the right out of fear, if nothing else.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Nobunaga on Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:29 am

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angola wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:The American Media, except for fox news and a few others to a lesser extent, is playing the race card. I for one am paying close attention to this race-bating game, so I know their playbook. I will vouch for 99% of people I know in my country and my state, that racism is a very, VERY minor issue. Please, PLEASE refrain from watching NBC specifically....I don't mind CNN sometimes, but they are advanced players. I Admit I simply could not stand FOX since it's inception, but I am seeing more liberals on their station getting their fair say and a LOT of real, civil debate.



You slay me. Racism is a minor problem? Where the hell do you live, because you certainly don't live in the south or the Northwest or the Northeast or anywhere in America.


... Where the hell do you live, Angola? Where do you see race as such a huge problem?


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Sorry Nobunga, but I lost jobs because of race... I was apparently "too friendly" with the "wrong" people. I have heard more than a few back-hand comments about well .. let's just say "them" (stubstitute various racial slurs).

HOWEVER, and this is the big thing, the question is not so much whether race is or is not a real issue in some places, the question is whether, on a societal level, it overwhelms other issues. In the past, it absolutely did. Now, I would say this so-called "Conservative-Liberal" divide is what really divides people.

And I say "supposed" because its really the FAR right claiming that anything other than their position is "liberal", thus encouraging people to flock further to the right out of fear, if nothing else.


... I do not believe you. I generally do, but this claim of losing a job because you were too friendly to whatever race... I don't buy it. If in fact such took place, you failed to meet your responsibility. You must file a legal claim against your ex-employer.

... Race is only an issue because the left keeps beating us about the head and shoulders with it in this naziesque mind-police state of PC living we experience today.

... Percieved racial strife keeps the left in business. That really is the bottom line. Without percieved racial division your candidates lose.

... Sure, somewhere in Alabama there will be some true, hardcore redneck spawn of cousins racists, just as there is a Jeremiah Wright. These assholes still exist, but their numbers are very small in terms of percentage of the population.

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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:49 am

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... I do not believe you. I generally do, but this claim of losing a job because you were too friendly to whatever race... I don't buy it. If in fact such took place, you failed to meet your responsibility. You must file a legal claim against your ex-employer.

You are a bit naive, if you think its that easy. First, you have to have substantitive proof. The people involved were way too smart to leave any proof or to be obvious enough to make this the issue, but if you looked back, there is a particular pattern. Ironically, those of color were "protected", because they could claim the obvious. It was those of us who were white who were penalized for not buying into the "automatic" segregation that was supposed to occur.

... Race is only an issue because the left keeps beating us about the head and shoulders with it in this naziesque mind-police state of PC living we experience today.

Sorry, but race is a pretty mainline issue nowadays.

There are 2 groups. The older folks (those over 70 mostly) who were raised racist and have not revised their thinking. Then you have the middle group, where I (and I believe you???) fit -- roughly 30-70. Baby boomers, but also a bit beyond that group. Most of us were born in racism, but were raised to see it as wrong and actively taught on many fronts to not judge people just by race, along with some varying appreciation for other cultures. (ALL cultures, including our own-- this all happened together -- Foxfire books, better education about no-whites and their contributions to the world, etc.).

BUT, the worrying part is the younger generation. This group is becoming racist again. Yes, I absolutely agree that part of it is a kind of response to the whole "PC" thing (with which I mostly do not agree), BUT it is also a factor of complacency, of assuming that "these issues are solved"..when they really are not. Treating the "other guy" well is always easy when times are good.
The test comes when things get tough. Suddenly, its all too easy to believe that the black guy got to keep his job because he was black. And, its easy for an employer to put out that word (secretly, of course) to deflect attention from any real issues.

... Percieved racial strife keeps the left in business. That really is the bottom line. Without percieved racial division your candidates lose.


WHOA WHOA WHOA. You start talking sensibly .. yes, race strife does divide. BUt then you leao to
" Without percieved racial division your candidates lose"... Come on! It is YOU, trying to pull out the race card. This is exactly what I meant when I said that the far right is using this to divide, when I said this has nothing to do with real liberalism.

The people who use race to their advantage are individuals and businesses. Individuals (of ALL races) who find it convenient to blame race for why they cannot succeed. Similarly, businessses use it. They use it to get themselves work, they use it to "explain" why they laid off one person instead of another (erm.. can't say this officially, of course, but you know [sad to say, sorry] we just can't lay off the black guy -- more often even less is said, but .. the message is heard or interpreted).

... Sure, somewhere in Alabama there will be some true, hardcore redneck spawn of cousins racists, just as there is a Jeremiah Wright. These assholes still exist, but their numbers are very small in terms of percentage of the population.


I agree that racists are far fewer in number today than in years past. I also agree that some people use race. BUT, race is again rearing its ugly head, and the worse the economy, the more it will be apparent. Just study history. There have always been periods of general tolerance and acceptance. Then, things get bad, the rich get richer and the poor and what't left of any middle get poorer and begin attacking each other. The wealthy are all too happy to keep the fires burning.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby AAFitz on Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:50 am

Nobunaga wrote:... The designations you refer to, (Race)-American, is a fairly recent creation. The use of this language was created by the American left to categorize citizens (and non-citizens) into identifiable groups. It serves the purpose of victim-politics which is a hallmark of the American left. It also breaks populations down into somewhat clearly identifiable voting blocks.

... Think about how often you see news relating to some African-American, Hispanic-American, Asian American group or another. In nearly every instance you will also see a politician, almost assuredly a Democrat, decrying some injustice.

... This structure is essential to the abandonment of American culture in favor of multi-culturalism and all the politics that come with it.

... "Senator (whoever) has done so much for African Americans".

... "Representative (pick a name) fought against (pick a policy), a clear sign that he is out of touch with the (Race)-American community".

... It's really quite absurd.

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Im sure youd see the American politicians claiming the same thing...if they actually didnt ignore all but the white americans.

Also, American culture always has been multi-culturalism...or at least has been since more than just puritans lived here.

The country is the size of Euorpe and the middle east, all with different regions, which of course lend themselves to different cultures, especially when immigrants from other cultures reside in those areas.

To suggest there should be one American culture is really whats absurd.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:55 am

Player, can you please expound on your theory that the younger generation is more racist than the baby boomers? I fail to see a connection there. If there is a backlash, it comes from the PC stylings of the baby boomer generation, but such a backlash has nothing to do with the younger generation being racist. It has more to do with the younger generation being less concerned about being PC.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:55 am

thegreekdog wrote:Player, can you please expound on your theory that the younger generation is more racist than the baby boomers? I fail to see a connection there. If there is a backlash, it comes from the PC stylings of the baby boomer generation, but such a backlash has nothing to do with the younger generation being racist. It has more to do with the younger generation being less concerned about being PC.

First, I don't like the whole PC thing. But, the backlash is definitely much more than just saying "we don't care about PC". Racist groups are very actively recruiting in schools across the country. Rather, not directly in schools, but targeting junior high and high school-aged kids. And they are succeeding.

My source comes from some stories on activities of racist groups in southern California High schools and schools across the country, as well as on the net. I will try to find the report, but it is several months old, so I am not sure I will succeed.

Remember one thing. It is very easy to be tolerant when times are good. When things get rough .. scapegoats appear.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby khazalid on Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:00 am

nice post players, agree entirely with the sentiment.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Titanic on Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:30 am

PLAYER57832 wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:Player, can you please expound on your theory that the younger generation is more racist than the baby boomers? I fail to see a connection there. If there is a backlash, it comes from the PC stylings of the baby boomer generation, but such a backlash has nothing to do with the younger generation being racist. It has more to do with the younger generation being less concerned about being PC.

First, I don't like the whole PC thing. But, the backlash is definitely much more than just saying "we don't care about PC". Racist groups are very actively recruiting in schools across the country. Rather, not directly in schools, but targeting junior high and high school-aged kids. And they are succeeding.

My source comes from some stories on activities of racist groups in southern California High schools and schools across the country, as well as on the net. I will try to find the report, but it is several months old, so I am not sure I will succeed.

Remember one thing. It is very easy to be tolerant when times are good. When things get rough .. scapegoats appear.


I think this is true to an extent in the UK. There are a lot of kids (sorry to stereotype here) who are mainly lower class white British who are getting caught up in the BNP, EDL and other racist groups. However, over 95% are not racist but those who are are generally very far along rather tehn just "casually racist". Have to agree with greek that young people are also less concerned about PC, and in my experience my best friends who are white are the ones who don't actually care about PC. I think this could be because they're not scared of repercussions or offending us because they actually understand other races rather then seeing them as an alien culture.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:18 pm

The difference is that there were always people who joined a racist group to fit in and/or because they were racist. In terms of middle-class, upper middle class, rich, learned, intelligent, etc. people, there were a whole lot more racists in other generations than in the younger generation.

In other words, racism is being solved in the US because certain groups of people, like the middle class for example, are becoming less racist because the old people who used to be racist are dying and the young middle class just aren't racist.

I'm not making sense.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Nobunaga on Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:07 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
WHOA WHOA WHOA. You start talking sensibly .. yes, race strife does divide. BUt then you leap to
" Without percieved racial division your candidates lose"... Come on! It is YOU, trying to pull out the race card. This is exactly what I meant when I said that the far right is using this to divide, when I said this has nothing to do with real liberalism.

The people who use race to their advantage are individuals and businesses. Individuals (of ALL races) who find it convenient to blame race for why they cannot succeed. Similarly, businessses use it. They use it to get themselves work, they use it to "explain" why they laid off one person instead of another (erm.. can't say this officially, of course, but you know [sad to say, sorry] we just can't lay off the black guy -- more often even less is said, but .. the message is heard or interpreted).



... This is humorous. I am the one promoting division? I had no idea. So, where do you stand on Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and every other leftist whack-job (quite especially major media) screaming the word, "racist" every time somebody disagrees with the Bamster, assembles to protest the congress, or points out the lies our president is spewing like sour milk?

... And yes, Democratic candidates depend on blacks for votes. Google "Democratic Plantation" for me and see how blacks in the US have been all but physically enslaved by the party claiming to represent them. Some great books there, too.

... Better yet, Google "Black Conservatives" for a real hands-on about the topic. These are folks who have worked their way off the plantation and have sworn never to return to the servitude they pay for welfare, nor to the "opium" of government programs that keep blacks locked into slums with broken families, run-down neighborhoods, high crime and very little hope. Black poverty has changed very little since the institution of these democratic programs in the 60's, and it's the dems who perpetuate this poverty, screaming about how precious welfare programs are threatened by their republican opposition. They create addicts to the system then make them pay.

... I could go on and on about this double standard the dems push. The most racist bunch of bastards ever to make their stain on the culture of the United States.

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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby wackeebill on Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:24 pm

I think the reson is far simpler than many of you have discussed.

America is a country which is built (almots 100%) entirely on immigration from across the world, some forced, some voluntary. This means that many Americans are pround of their heritage, but I think the fact they say they are for example Irish Americans as opposed to just saying they are Irish shows how proud they are to be American as well as showing pride in their ancestors.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Nobunaga on Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:32 pm

wackeebill wrote:I think the reson is far simpler than many of you have discussed.

America is a country which is built (almots 100%) entirely on immigration from across the world, some forced, some voluntary. This means that many Americans are pround of their heritage, but I think the fact they say they are for example Irish Americans as opposed to just saying they are Irish shows how proud they are to be American as well as showing pride in their ancestors.


... Look at the original question from the Kiwi. New Zealanders are certainly not all originally native.

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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby wackeebill on Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:43 pm

Nobunaga wrote:
wackeebill wrote:I think the reson is far simpler than many of you have discussed.

America is a country which is built (almots 100%) entirely on immigration from across the world, some forced, some voluntary. This means that many Americans are pround of their heritage, but I think the fact they say they are for example Irish Americans as opposed to just saying they are Irish shows how proud they are to be American as well as showing pride in their ancestors.


... Look at the original question from the Kiwi. New Zealanders are certainly not all originally native.

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That's right, but the immigration into New Zealand didn't happen on the same scale as into the USA
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Nobunaga on Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:07 pm

wackeebill wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
wackeebill wrote:I think the reson is far simpler than many of you have discussed.

America is a country which is built (almots 100%) entirely on immigration from across the world, some forced, some voluntary. This means that many Americans are pround of their heritage, but I think the fact they say they are for example Irish Americans as opposed to just saying they are Irish shows how proud they are to be American as well as showing pride in their ancestors.


... Look at the original question from the Kiwi. New Zealanders are certainly not all originally native.

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That's right, but the immigration into New Zealand didn't happen on the same scale as into the USA


... Sure, that's a valid point. But the immigrants who came to our country came to participate, they came to become part of America. They certainly cordoned themselves by ethnicity and culture in most areas initially, and some of that remains in larger, older cities, but the immigrants in the past hoped to take part in the American dream, if not for themselves then for their kids. American culture became of foremost public importance while traditional values remained observed in communities and in homes. These people understood that to be American did not necessitate the abandonment of their own traditions, indeed to abandon those traditions would have made America something lesser than it was. But they accepted America as their new home, and claimed themselves American, not "Irish-American", or "Italian-American", or "Chinese-American", above all else.

... The hyphenated designation of Americans is reserved for the oppressed, and these designations were created to serve a purpose (see previous).

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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Titanic on Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:41 pm

Nobunaga wrote:
wackeebill wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
wackeebill wrote:I think the reson is far simpler than many of you have discussed.

America is a country which is built (almots 100%) entirely on immigration from across the world, some forced, some voluntary. This means that many Americans are pround of their heritage, but I think the fact they say they are for example Irish Americans as opposed to just saying they are Irish shows how proud they are to be American as well as showing pride in their ancestors.


... Look at the original question from the Kiwi. New Zealanders are certainly not all originally native.

...

That's right, but the immigration into New Zealand didn't happen on the same scale as into the USA


... Sure, that's a valid point. But the immigrants who came to our country came to participate, they came to become part of America. They certainly cordoned themselves by ethnicity and culture in most areas initially, and some of that remains in larger, older cities, but the immigrants in the past hoped to take part in the American dream, if not for themselves then for their kids. American culture became of foremost public importance while traditional values remained observed in communities and in homes. These people understood that to be American did not necessitate the abandonment of their own traditions, indeed to abandon those traditions would have made America something lesser than it was. But they accepted America as their new home, and claimed themselves American, not "Irish-American", or "Italian-American", or "Chinese-American", above all else.

... The hyphenated designation of Americans is reserved for the oppressed, and these designations were created to serve a purpose (see previous).

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People should throw away their ancestry just to fit the public importance of American culture?
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Nobunaga on Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:21 pm

... Did you even read the post?

... American culture became of foremost public importance while traditional values remained observed in communities and in homes. These people understood that to be American did not necessitate the abandonment of their own traditions...

... Maybe that will help.

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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby angola on Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:48 am

Nobunaga wrote:
angola wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:The American Media, except for fox news and a few others to a lesser extent, is playing the race card. I for one am paying close attention to this race-bating game, so I know their playbook. I will vouch for 99% of people I know in my country and my state, that racism is a very, VERY minor issue. Please, PLEASE refrain from watching NBC specifically....I don't mind CNN sometimes, but they are advanced players. I Admit I simply could not stand FOX since it's inception, but I am seeing more liberals on their station getting their fair say and a LOT of real, civil debate.



You slay me. Racism is a minor problem? Where the hell do you live, because you certainly don't live in the south or the Northwest or the Northeast or anywhere in America.


... Where the hell do you live, Angola? Where do you see race as such a huge problem?

<EDIT> Another fine example of race-obsession by Liberal activists, this time at a strip club:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090928/D9B0GN380.html

...

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Where do I live? I live in West Texas. I'm sure you clicked on my profile.

My city has the proud distinction of being the last segregated school district in the nation (think 1980s).

Oh, and there are three distinct parts of my city: the black neighborhood, the Mexican neighborhood and the white neighborhood. That's not racist, by any means, but it leads to racist decisions by the city council and the school board.

The one thing I'd say about racism is this:

While most think of racism as a black/white thing, remember, there is great racism going on toward Mexican-Americans in the Southwest, Idaho, Oregon, California and Washington.

There is also racism to Asian-Americans in Washington. I know. I grew up there. I believe if it is going on there it is going on everywhere.

But I'm sure you're right, nobunga, it no longer exists because you told me so. Everyone gets along and never says racist shit to others. Ever.
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby angola on Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:55 am

Oh, and Nobunga, just read your post that racism only exists in Alabama.

That tells me that you live in a Northern/Midwest city.

In those cities, people like you think racism is a black-white thing that only exists amongst the rednecks in the South.

Well, there are rednecks everywhere.

I lived in Idaho for 8 years. Believe me, rednecks exist in the north also. Oh, and I met some of the most hardcore racists I've ever met in Washington and Idaho.

The racists where I live in Texas, are racist toward blacks, for sure, but they reserve their harshest racism for Mexicans - something the Republican party loves.

You say the liberals keep racism alive under some bullshit moniker called political correctness. I, on the other hand, say Republicans keep racism alive by trying to close the borders and lumping all Mexicans together and shipping them back to their country.

The U.S. was founded on immigrants, so why suddenly are Republicans so afraid of Mexicans?
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Re: America's illogicall fixation on race

Postby Nobunaga on Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:03 am

angola wrote:Oh, and Nobunga, just read your post that racism only exists in Alabama.

That tells me that you live in a Northern/Midwest city.

In those cities, people like you think racism is a black-white thing that only exists amongst the rednecks in the South.

Well, there are rednecks everywhere.

I lived in Idaho for 8 years. Believe me, rednecks exist in the north also. Oh, and I met some of the most hardcore racists I've ever met in Washington and Idaho.

The racists where I live in Texas, are racist toward blacks, for sure, but they reserve their harshest racism for Mexicans - something the Republican party loves.

You say the liberals keep racism alive under some bullshit moniker called political correctness. I, on the other hand, say Republicans keep racism alive by trying to close the borders and lumping all Mexicans together and shipping them back to their country.

The U.S. was founded on immigrants, so why suddenly are Republicans so afraid of Mexicans?


... My family is multi-racial, I have a bit of insight on this.

... As concerns "immigrants"... you left out the qualifying adjective, "illegal". The presence of many, if not most of those Mexicans in the US is a crime. Period. You can argue all you wish about the "real world" and the dependence of local economies on their labor, but none of this negates their criminal status.

... Why do all the blacks live in "their own neighborhood"? I'd like your analysis on that one.

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