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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:11 pm

pimpdave wrote:The White Supremacy (Tea Party) Network

They definitely say "the White network" at least twice. Also, this is really happening. It's not satire. Poe's law.


I'm excited for the Right Network. Seriously, I am.

I love the comments too. People are funny.
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby Nobunaga on Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:11 pm

... CBS affliliate in Alaska busted on voicemail planning to sabotage conservative candidate Miller with fabricated story about sex offenders at his rally.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/10/3 ... in-alaska/

... Is there any question any more that the major media is helplessly biased?

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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:14 pm

Nobunaga wrote:... CBS affliliate in Alaska busted on voicemail planning to sabotage conservative candidate Miller with fabricated story about sex offenders at his rally.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/10/3 ... in-alaska/

... Is there any question any more that the major media is helplessly biased?

...

I really feel that is it isn't that 'the media' that is biased, but that humanity is.


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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby Nobunaga on Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:24 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... CBS affliliate in Alaska busted on voicemail planning to sabotage conservative candidate Miller with fabricated story about sex offenders at his rally.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/10/3 ... in-alaska/

... Is there any question any more that the major media is helplessly biased?

...

I really feel that is it isn't that 'the media' that is biased, but that humanity is.


--Andy


... It's their job to check that baggage at the office door, Andy, not actively work to sabotage a candidate with fictional accounts because they they don't like him.

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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:21 am

Nobunaga wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... CBS affliliate in Alaska busted on voicemail planning to sabotage conservative candidate Miller with fabricated story about sex offenders at his rally.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/10/3 ... in-alaska/

... Is there any question any more that the major media is helplessly biased?

...

I really feel that is it isn't that 'the media' that is biased, but that humanity is.


--Andy


... It's their job to check that baggage at the office door, Andy, not actively work to sabotage a candidate with fictional accounts because they they don't like him.

...

It's less of a media problem, more of a Humanity problem, really.


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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby notyou2 on Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:44 am

I have lost all faith in the human race.

Chimps could run the world better.

Out with the chumps and in with the chimps!!!!!
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:22 am

notyou2 wrote:I have lost all faith in the human race.

Chimps could run the world better.

Out with the chumps and in with the chimps!!!!!

I wholeheartedly agree---in with me.


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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:58 am

I watched MSNBC last night (for the US elections). I was absolutely floored by the vitriol exhibited by the commentators (who are admittedly liberal). My concern is that this ostensibly was supposed to be a news show specifically regarding reporting news of the elections yesterday. Instead, in a little less than an hour, the team (including Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, and Keith Olbermann) freaked out about Rand Paul's statement that he would not permit deficit spending. I turned on the show at that point and by the way the commentators were talking it sounded as if Paul would try to bring down the government. After about 20 minutes, they played the actual quote, which was absolutely innocuous (Paul was saying he wanted both parties to stop the deficit spending). In any event, the MSNBC team was suggesting something that simply was not true; and when the leader of some Tea Party group came on, after lambasting him, they let him talk and he explained Paul's position in one minute and seemingly the topic was dropped. Then they went to Christine O'Donnell's concession speech before which Olbermann commented, "Get your popcorn ready" and after which Olbermann commented, "It didn't seem like much of a concession speech."

Now, maybe I agree with the MSNBC team on some of these things, but it's hardly "reporting the news" and it was certainly a biased show. There weren't even any conservatives on to comment or fight back (I would venture to say FoxNews had liberals on to comment or fight back, although I didn't watch FoxNews). So, it is more than a little ironic that Matthews and Maddow and Olbermann continue to rail against FoxNews' TALK SHOW HOSTS (!) and their bias, while presenting a news show that was completely and unabashedly biased.

I turned to CNN after that and finally got some actual news instead of political commentary from a disguised news show.
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby jbrettlip on Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:20 am

thegreekdog wrote:I watched MSNBC last night (for the US elections). I was absolutely floored by the vitriol exhibited by the commentators (who are admittedly liberal). My concern is that this ostensibly was supposed to be a news show specifically regarding reporting news of the elections yesterday. Instead, in a little less than an hour, the team (including Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, and Keith Olbermann) freaked out about Rand Paul's statement that he would not permit deficit spending. I turned on the show at that point and by the way the commentators were talking it sounded as if Paul would try to bring down the government. After about 20 minutes, they played the actual quote, which was absolutely innocuous (Paul was saying he wanted both parties to stop the deficit spending). In any event, the MSNBC team was suggesting something that simply was not true; and when the leader of some Tea Party group came on, after lambasting him, they let him talk and he explained Paul's position in one minute and seemingly the topic was dropped. Then they went to Christine O'Donnell's concession speech before which Olbermann commented, "Get your popcorn ready" and after which Olbermann commented, "It didn't seem like much of a concession speech."

Now, maybe I agree with the MSNBC team on some of these things, but it's hardly "reporting the news" and it was certainly a biased show. There weren't even any conservatives on to comment or fight back (I would venture to say FoxNews had liberals on to comment or fight back, although I didn't watch FoxNews). So, it is more than a little ironic that Matthews and Maddow and Olbermann continue to rail against FoxNews' TALK SHOW HOSTS (!) and their bias, while presenting a news show that was completely and unabashedly biased.

I turned to CNN after that and finally got some actual news instead of political commentary from a disguised news show.


I had MSNBC on, too but just to see how they would spin it. Keith O had a graphic up of how candidates that Palin campaigned for were doing. He was ridiculing her because 14 of them didn't win their races. No mention of all of Obama's campaigning and the obvious poor results. Plus Obama is currently EMPLOYED and should be trying to do his job, instead of campaigning for others.
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby radiojake on Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:27 am

Wait, wait, wait..

You mean to say that the owners of mass media outlets are using the guise of 'reporting news', but are in actual fact subliminally putting forward an agenda?
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:55 am

radiojake wrote:Wait, wait, wait..

You mean to say that the owners of mass media outlets are using the guise of 'reporting news', but are in actual fact subliminally putting forward an agenda?


There are some things wrong with your statement.

(1) The mass media outlet I referred to is MSNBC (not FoxNews). The vast majority of people understand that FoxNews tends towards the right. The vast majority of people who watch MSNBC do not think it tends towards any particular political spectrum. In fact, I turned on MSNBC expecting to see no opinion whatsoever, or at the very least a divergent number of opinions.

(2) The guise of reporting news should have been actually reporting news. I watched CNN as well. They actually reported who won. There was little political commentary. That is what should have happened on all major news networks last night. On MSNBC this was simply not the case. So, while they should have been reporting news, they were not.

(3) There was nothing subliminal about MSNBC's message. It was "The American voters on November 2nd are insane, except for those races where Democrats won." It was, "Rand Paul is a crazy man who will ruin the world's economy." It was, "Christine O'Connell/O'Donnell whatever is a moron, let's see how she makes a fool of herself and therefore shows that all Republicans are idiots." It was, "Michele Bachman wants to investigate Democrats like the McCarthy investigations." (which I heard today).
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:03 am

thegreekdog wrote: The vast majority of people understand that FoxNews tends towards the right. The vast majority of people who watch MSNBC do not think it tends towards any particular political spectrum.

Funny, but I seem to have read a good many comments along the line of "Oh.. MSNBC... obvious liberal opinion".

Seems we have descended to the point where only conservatives are allowed to have opinions. Liberals, however, are to be restricted to unbiased truth. They often do comply. Sadly, conservatives seem to get a bigger audience. So... that is the future.
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:09 am

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thegreekdog wrote: The vast majority of people understand that FoxNews tends towards the right. The vast majority of people who watch MSNBC do not think it tends towards any particular political spectrum.

Funny, but I seem to have read a good many comments along the line of "Oh.. MSNBC... obvious liberal opinion".

Seems we have descended to the point where only conservatives are allowed to have opinions. Liberals, however, are to be restricted to unbiased truth. They often do comply. Sadly, conservatives seem to get a bigger audience. So... that is the future.


What? That makes no sense. I follow politics a whole lot and I did not expect MSNBC to have such an unabashedly one-sided political view of the election (which is one of the reasons I turned that network on). I did expect FoxNews to have such a view (which is why I did not turn that network on). All new networks and all political commentators should be restricted to the truth. All news networks should be unbiased. Political commentators can be biased, I'm fine with that. I did not expect to turn on MSNBC and see some biased television.

In other news, most networks, including mostly unbiased networks like CNN, continually bash FoxNews (RIGHTFULLY SO!) for being biased towards conservatives. I'm really not sure where you're getting your information Player. And it's not like I'm sitting here listening to Beck and Limbaugh and repeating stuff I hear from them; I'm telling you I watched CNN and MSNBC and MSNBC's coverage was unabashedly biased from a NEWS SHOW that was REPORTING the political elections.
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby oVo on Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:24 am

thegreekdog wrote: At least everyone knows Fox is biased.

ALL MEDIA IS BIASED... not just FOX
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:38 am

thegreekdog wrote:
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thegreekdog wrote: The vast majority of people understand that FoxNews tends towards the right. The vast majority of people who watch MSNBC do not think it tends towards any particular political spectrum.

Funny, but I seem to have read a good many comments along the line of "Oh.. MSNBC... obvious liberal opinion".

Seems we have descended to the point where only conservatives are allowed to have opinions. Liberals, however, are to be restricted to unbiased truth. They often do comply. Sadly, conservatives seem to get a bigger audience. So... that is the future.


What? That makes no sense. I follow politics a whole lot and I did not expect MSNBC to have such an unabashedly one-sided political view of the election (which is one of the reasons I turned that network on). I did expect FoxNews to have such a view (which is why I did not turn that network on). All new networks and all political commentators should be restricted to the truth. All news networks should be unbiased. Political commentators can be biased, I'm fine with that. I did not expect to turn on MSNBC and see some biased television.

In other news, most networks, including mostly unbiased networks like CNN, continually bash FoxNews (RIGHTFULLY SO!) for being biased towards conservatives. I'm really not sure where you're getting your information Player. And it's not like I'm sitting here listening to Beck and Limbaugh and repeating stuff I hear from them; I'm telling you I watched CNN and MSNBC and MSNBC's coverage was unabashedly biased from a NEWS SHOW that was REPORTING the political elections.

I don't know much about MSNBC except what is said here. They did hijack my homepage, so I now log on through other means. Here all I hear about is how liberal MSNBC is.

but, overall.. I think your definition of "unbiased" and mine just differ. I definitely don't consider CNN to be "unbiased". It is just slightly less blantent than Fox.

BUT... the problem is that Fox, etc get far more ratings and attention. People don't want lack of bias. People don't want to hear the other guy's opinion. All the vast majority seem to want is just to have their own ideas confirmed. They want someone telling them they are smart and intelligent for thinking as they do. Forcing people to consider other ideas and opinions doesn't do that nearly so well.
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby bedub1 on Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:27 am

I also watch MSNBC last night for election coverage, for a while. I couldn't believe how racist, demeaning, derogatory, biased, rude etc those assholes are. I was appalled that this was a news organization.

I flipped over to FoxNews and laughed my ass off. It was sarah palin and some other old lady. The ticker looked like it was made in the 70's. I laughed so hard I switched channels to NBC.

I watch NBC for the rest of the night, and that coverage was FANTASTIC! They were polite, they were interesting, they weren't biased at all that I noticed.

I was just really floored by those guys at MSNBC and how pathetic they were.
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby jbrettlip on Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:28 am

bedub1 wrote:I also watch MSNBC last night for election coverage, for a while. I couldn't believe how racist, demeaning, derogatory, biased, rude etc those assholes are. I was appalled that this was a news organization.

I flipped over to FoxNews and laughed my ass off. It was sarah palin and some other old lady. The ticker looked like it was made in the 70's. I laughed so hard I switched channels to NBC.

I watch NBC for the rest of the night, and that coverage was FANTASTIC! They were polite, they were interesting, they weren't biased at all that I noticed.

I was just really floored by those guys at MSNBC and how pathetic they were.


It was Geraldine Ferrarro. Why they had those two on was beyond me. I didn't watch for long. I'd rather watch Tina Fey as Palin, then Palin.
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby Nobunaga on Wed May 18, 2011 12:01 pm

... White House shuts out the Boston Herald at a fundraiser due to bias:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/region ... position=1

... An interesting news blog entry on the stale state of journalism today as reporters "bow to the monarch" (reference to Bush and Obama).

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washin ... -too-timid

... Once popular political cartoonists (used to bash Bush) can't get Obama cartoons published.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s ... ama-pieces

... Bored this morning... wanted to post something.

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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed May 18, 2011 1:09 pm

This is why I listen almost entirely to NPR any more. Not claiming they are without bias, but they at least make an effort to cover various sides of issues.

Case in point: I rarely find conservative opinions that I have not heard... but do find a lot of conservatives remain ignorant of real liberal positions and even many moderate ones... going for charicatures instead. (and I do tag into more extreme broadcasts on a regular basis... but since what they say rarely changes, I don't have to tune in much).
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby pimpdave on Wed May 18, 2011 1:27 pm

Nobunaga wrote:... Bored this morning... wanted to post something.

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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed May 18, 2011 7:51 pm

jbrettlip wrote:
bedub1 wrote:I also watch MSNBC last night for election coverage, for a while. I couldn't believe how racist, demeaning, derogatory, biased, rude etc those assholes are. I was appalled that this was a news organization.

I flipped over to FoxNews and laughed my ass off. It was sarah palin and some other old lady. The ticker looked like it was made in the 70's. I laughed so hard I switched channels to NBC.

I watch NBC for the rest of the night, and that coverage was FANTASTIC! They were polite, they were interesting, they weren't biased at all that I noticed.

I was just really floored by those guys at MSNBC and how pathetic they were.


It was Geraldine Ferrarro. Why they had those two on was beyond me. I didn't watch for long. I'd rather watch Tina Fey as Palin, then Palin.

Geraldine Ferrarro is still around???? She must be what... 90 now???
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby Phatscotty on Wed May 18, 2011 8:21 pm

pretty sure she died a few months ago.
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby knapper on Wed May 18, 2011 8:46 pm

yes, but she was alive up until the moment she died.

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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed May 18, 2011 10:21 pm

Phatscotty wrote:pretty sure she died a few months ago.

March 26, 2011
I was pretty sick at the time, so no wonder I missed it.
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Re: Bias in the Media, LOL

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