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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Sat May 16, 2009 8:23 pm

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JJM wrote:Look so far two people have voted for the devil. Andrew Jackson. Who. How can you people admire an Indian Killer and most ridiculos of all how can you admire a crook. I hate Andrew Jackson more than any other preisident. He was a freak.



Do you mean Native American killer?
Yes.


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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sat May 16, 2009 8:26 pm

Every time someone insulted Jackson when he was present he would challenge them to a dual. Good thing that isn't allowed today or these debates would be kind of hard to have.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Sat May 16, 2009 8:38 pm

JJM wrote:Look so far two people have voted for the devil. Andrew Jackson. Who. How can you people admire an Indian Killer and most ridiculos of all how can you admire a crook. I hate Andrew Jackson more than any other preisident. He was a freak.


From what I've heard he is so much hated by most Indians these days that a lot of them actually refuse to use 20 dollar bills.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Snorri1234 on Sat May 16, 2009 8:50 pm

JJM wrote:Every time someone insulted Jackson when he was present he would challenge them to a dual. Good thing that isn't allowed today or these debates would be kind of hard to have.


I'm seriously confused as to how that wouldn't be awesome.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby InkL0sed on Sat May 16, 2009 8:54 pm

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JJM wrote:Every time someone insulted Jackson when he was present he would challenge them to a dual. Good thing that isn't allowed today or these debates would be kind of hard to have.


I'm seriously confused as to how that wouldn't be awesome.


It would be fucking amazing. Upon contemplation of this, I must say that although he was a murderer, I can't help but like him.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Snorri1234 on Sat May 16, 2009 9:04 pm

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JJM wrote:Every time someone insulted Jackson when he was present he would challenge them to a dual. Good thing that isn't allowed today or these debates would be kind of hard to have.


I'm seriously confused as to how that wouldn't be awesome.


It would be fucking amazing. Upon contemplation of this, I must say that although he was a murderer, I can't help but like him.


Seriously, how much more fun would the election have been? Obama and McCain duking it out with the vps having to take their place if they get killed.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby InkL0sed on Sat May 16, 2009 9:05 pm

You know McCain would've been too slow anyway.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Sat May 16, 2009 9:14 pm

InkL0sed wrote:You know McCain would've been too slow anyway.



Yeah but I betcha McCain would be a dirty fighter.

***McCain reaches to shake Obama's hand, throws sand from other hand in Obama's eyes, then knees him in the groin***
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Snorri1234 on Sat May 16, 2009 9:17 pm

McCain would criple Obama before dying, at which point Palin would probably finish him off. So it's more of a contest between a little weakened Palin and Biden.

Biden got laser-eyes though.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby InkL0sed on Sat May 16, 2009 9:27 pm

Hmm, that's a close one. Palin's a hunter. Scary thought.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Snorri1234 on Sat May 16, 2009 9:30 pm

Biden once caught a bullet with his bare hands.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Sat May 16, 2009 9:43 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:Biden once caught a bullet with his bare hands.


Palin once caught one between her teeth.......ohhhhh.... wait something different
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sat May 16, 2009 10:01 pm

neanderpaul14 wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:You know McCain would've been too slow anyway.



Yeah but I betcha McCain would be a dirty fighter.

***McCain reaches to shake Obama's hand, throws sand from other hand in Obama's eyes, then knees him in the groin***
That was still illegle. In a duel one person person would make the challenge and the other would chose the weapon. Thats one of the reasons why duels did not happen very often. Jackson could fight with any weapon because he was in the Military. McCain would have also had that advantage but McCain didn't even resort to dirty campaigning. When someone In a crowd said that they were scared of an Obama presidency or When someone called Obama an Arab McCain cailmed them down. He is to honest to kill someone.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sat May 16, 2009 10:04 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
JJM wrote:Every time someone insulted Jackson when he was present he would challenge them to a dual. Good thing that isn't allowed today or these debates would be kind of hard to have.


I'm seriously confused as to how that wouldn't be awesome.


It would be fucking amazing. Upon contemplation of this, I must say that although he was a murderer, I can't help but like him.
How can you admire the devil. From my point of veiw Jackson wasen't any better than Saddam Huessan. They both killed innocent people.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Sat May 16, 2009 10:25 pm

JJM wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
JJM wrote:Every time someone insulted Jackson when he was present he would challenge them to a dual. Good thing that isn't allowed today or these debates would be kind of hard to have.


I'm seriously confused as to how that wouldn't be awesome.


It would be fucking amazing. Upon contemplation of this, I must say that although he was a murderer, I can't help but like him.
How can you admire the devil. From my point of veiw Jackson wasen't any better than Saddam Huessan. They both killed innocent people.



I think calling Jackson "the devil" is a bit harsh.

You seem to be basing this entirely on the fact that he was an Indian fighter and was willing to fight duels with people when he felt personally insulted.

Jackson was the product of a frontier environment. When he was growing up Indian raids on frontier settlements were actually commonplace. As for his willingness to fight duels, living on the frontier in the southern U.S. at this time men would not be expected to accept slights on their honor. At times many of these incidents could only be settled by a duel or an act of cowardice by one of the parties.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sat May 16, 2009 10:27 pm

JJM wrote:My top 15 List would be
1. Teddy Roosevelt
2. Lincoln or Coolidge
3. Lincoln or Coolidge
4. Truman or Reagen
5. Truman or Reagen
6. Taylor or Jefferson
7. Taylor or Jefferson
8. James Madison
9. Benjamin Harrison
10. Cleveland
11. G. W. Bush
12. Eisenhower
13. G. H. W. Bush
14. Wasington
15. McKinley
For the Bottom 5 I would say:
1. Andrew Jackson
2. Warren Harding
3. Barack Obama
4. Richard Nixion
5. Andrew Johnson
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sat May 16, 2009 10:39 pm

neanderpaul14 wrote:
JJM wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
JJM wrote:Every time someone insulted Jackson when he was present he would challenge them to a dual. Good thing that isn't allowed today or these debates would be kind of hard to have.


I'm seriously confused as to how that wouldn't be awesome.


It would be fucking amazing. Upon contemplation of this, I must say that although he was a murderer, I can't help but like him.
How can you admire the devil. From my point of veiw Jackson wasen't any better than Saddam Huessan. They both killed innocent people.



I think calling Jackson "the devil" is a bit harsh.

You seem to be basing this entirely on the fact that he was an Indian fighter and was willing to fight duels with people when he felt personally insulted.

Jackson was the product of a frontier environment. When he was growing up Indian raids on frontier settlements were actually commonplace. As for his willingness to fight duels, living on the frontier in the southern U.S. at this time men would not be expected to accept slights on their honor. At times many of these incidents could only be settled by a duel or an act of cowardice by one of the parties.
You want more examples? When Spain owned Florida Florida was very uncivilized. They didn't do much governing. They would raid across the borders. So instead of leting the National Guard do its job Andrew Jackson just decided to take his army into Florida. Just imagin if we did that to Mexico to try to solve our Border problems. Once Jackson had a cabinet member named John Eaton and his wife was named Peggy Eaton. Rumor had it that Peggy's first husband was abuseive and she narried Jhon while still married to someone else. Other cabinet wives ridicouled her for this. Jackson felt bad because his wife had to deal with the same problem. So when the cabinet Wives refused to git along with her he asked all his cabinet members to resign.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Captain_Scarlet on Sat May 16, 2009 10:42 pm

is the study of American history compulsory in USA high schools? or does each state decide the curriculum?
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Frigidus on Sat May 16, 2009 11:37 pm

Captain_Scarlet wrote:is the study of American history compulsory in USA high schools? or does each state decide the curriculum?


Compulsory. At least one year of it.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Captain_Scarlet on Sun May 17, 2009 12:11 am

Frigidus wrote:
Captain_Scarlet wrote:is the study of American history compulsory in USA high schools? or does each state decide the curriculum?


Compulsory. At least one year of it.


well that explains alot
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby notyou2 on Sun May 17, 2009 9:19 am

JJM wrote:Look so far two people have voted for the devil. Andrew Jackson. Who. How can you people admire an Indian Killer and most ridiculos of all how can you admire a crook. I hate Andrew Jackson more than any other preisident. He was a freak.



HATE is an awfully strong word for a christian...........
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sun May 17, 2009 9:23 am

notyou2 wrote:
JJM wrote:Look so far two people have voted for the devil. Andrew Jackson. Who. How can you people admire an Indian Killer and most ridiculos of all how can you admire a crook. I hate Andrew Jackson more than any other preisident. He was a freak.



HATE is an awfully strong word for a christian...........
I'm a christian to but I think we can all agree that we all hate the devil.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby StiffMittens on Sun May 17, 2009 10:32 am

JJM wrote:I'm a christian to but I think we can all agree that we all hate the devil.

I don't.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby MaleAlphaThree on Sun May 17, 2009 11:39 am

William Henry Harrison for the win!!!

He didn't have a chance to f*ck up the government more than it was when he got there. Best thing to happen to the presidency since Abe Lincoln.

He was a war vet too! A shoe-in!


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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Sun May 17, 2009 1:07 pm

StiffMittens wrote:
JJM wrote:I'm a christian to but I think we can all agree that we all hate the devil.

I don't.
At least all christians hate him.
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