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Postby reverend_kyle on Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:03 am

You realize he was baiting you all and you fell for it you guys are retarded and he's sitting here laughing at you. You guys can't understand sarcasm.
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Postby Jamie on Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:08 am

D.IsleRealBrown wrote:You guys are seriously starting to piss me off. Why don't you get off your fucking high horses and contribute something to society for once instead of just stealing knowledge and wealth from 3rd world countries. All you're good for is hate and pron.

Seriously, f*ck off!


Yep, sounds like sarcasm to me, f*ck you D.IsleRealBrown, you piece of garbage, FUCKING TRAITOR
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Postby reverend_kyle on Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:10 am

Jamie wrote:
D.IsleRealBrown wrote:You guys are seriously starting to piss me off. Why don't you get off your fucking high horses and contribute something to society for once instead of just stealing knowledge and wealth from 3rd world countries. All you're good for is hate and pron.

Seriously, f*ck off!


Yep, sounds like sarcasm to me, f*ck you D.IsleRealBrown, you piece of garbage, FUCKING TRAITOR


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Postby Koba on Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:23 am

DIRESTRAITS wrote:America has a high horse? What about Europe? they are sitting there being half commies and sucking off their poolboys while America fights to protect them. Then, instead of a thank you, they all hate us!!!!

As to democracy promotion being Empirical, would you rather those countries not be democracies?


Sitting here reading some of those posts has really made my blood boil! I have already alluded to British troops in Afghanistan, and they are also in all the other places fighting along side Americans. British troops are helping to fight this American war, a war which the majority of people do not support.
In fighting to protect us, we have had the London bombings. Recently, there was the biggest British loss of life in a single incident since the Falklands, as well as a leaked video of American troops acidentally bombing a British convoy. Sorry if I don't think it's a fantastic war!
Don't get me wrong, while they are out there I will support the troops, but I will not support the war. Especially not while I know people fighting out there.
I don't see why we are expected to be so grateful.
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Postby tonywalrus on Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:40 am

America's welcome to the World, enjoy:

Jamie wrote:Iwas going to post a thread about whatever country D.IsleRealBrown came from, just to discover that he's an AMERICAN. Stars and stripes right next to his name. How dare you live in this country, enjoying our freedoms, and luxury's only to insult it. If you don't like living here you fucking piece of shit, go back to whatever hell hole you ccame from, and tell me that place is better. People like you disgust me. You remind me of the scum that lived within our country, living our way of life and culture for 8 fucking years, and still had it in themselves to hijack a plane full of people and fly it into a skyscraper full of people. Get the f*ck out if you don't want to be here. We don't want your dispicable kind here, you low life piece of shit. You are truly as bad as any terrorist, and you being here scares me, cause if you hate America that much, what might you destroy within its borders. And if god forbid you are a CITIZEN of this great country, I hope you get tried for treason, and executed, just like the Rosenburgs, you complete and total low life piece of crap. f*ck you and all your treasonous opinions. Get the f*ck out, and don't come back


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Postby tonywalrus on Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:41 am

Followed by a song screamed hysterically at us:

Jamie wrote:If tomorrow all the things were gone I’d worked for all my life,
And I had to start again with just my children and my wife.
I’d thank my lucky stars to be living here today,
ā€˜Cause the flag still stands for freedom and they can’t take that away.

And I’m proud to be an American where at least I know I’m free.
And I won’t forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.
And I’d gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
ā€˜Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land God bless the U.S.A.

From the lakes of Minnesota, to the hills of Tennessee,
across the plains of Texas, from sea to shining sea,

From Detroit down to Houston and New York to LA,
Well, there’s pride in every American heart,
and it’s time to stand and say:

I’m proud to be an American where at least I know I’m free.
And I won’t forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.
And I’d gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
ā€˜Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land God bless the U.S.A
.


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Postby tonywalrus on Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:43 am

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Right back at'cha.

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Postby Beastly on Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:43 am

Tony as a American I have to tell you....

The edit button works great!!!


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Postby autoload on Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:06 am

I love this thread.
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Postby vtmarik on Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:17 am

"America goes around the world, telling everyone that its the greatest nation and that is a little obnoxious.

If you worked in an office, and every day Randal came in and said "I'M THE GREATEST FUCKER HERE! AND YOU SNIVELING SHITS WOULD DIE WITHOUT ME!"

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Postby Beastly on Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:31 am

I heard it from a little birdie...

f*ck OFF!!!



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America is the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.


When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane.
Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -not once, but several times and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.

Americans race to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble?

to All of you who are attending Schools in America and putting down this country, take a good look at your manners, do you behave like that in others homes? You are guest here, so behave yourself..

oh ya and go f*ck yourself also, your mother is a whore, she should have taught you manners
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Postby Titanic on Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:48 am

D.IsleRealBrown came from, just to discover that he's an AMERICAN. Stars and stripes right next to his name. How dare you live in this country, enjoying our freedoms, and luxury's only to insult it. If you don't like living here you fucking piece of shit, go back to whatever hell hole you ccame from, and tell me that place is better. People like you disgust me.


Jamie, you are the biggest moron on the planet. Free speech and the right to protest against anyone or anything are some of the most basic principles of a well established democracy.

Direstraits, you think Europes on a high horse? How many countries have we attacked to imforce our beliefs onto them? How many countries have we bullied into accepted our ways and ideals? Europe uses there army for peace keeping and to help countries who are in civil war, or are in a desperate state. The only time in the past 10 years where a European country has intervened for a hegemonic reason is Iraq. Seira Leone, Kosovo, Rwanda, all these were for peace keeping, and to stop ethnic cleansing and free the people so they can make their own choices.

What the world really needs is for the EU to increase there efficiency, power and effectiveness, not so it can be a rival to the US, but so it can put a check on the US's hegemony, and also so that in about 40 years time, when China, and India to an extent become global powers, there is a fairer split in the world balance of power, rather then a repeat of the Cold War but in a Far East vs West version.
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Postby tonywalrus on Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:57 am

Beastly wrote:Tony as a American I have to tell you....

The edit button works great!!!


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As an American...
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Postby tonywalrus on Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:00 am

A short parable about self interest, disguised as a lecture about generosity, follows:

Beastly wrote:I heard it from a little birdie...

f*ck OFF!!!



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America is the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.


When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane.
Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -not once, but several times and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.

Americans race to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble?

to All of you who are attending Schools in America and putting down this country, take a good look at your manners, do you behave like that in others homes? You are guest here, so behave yourself..

oh ya and go f*ck yourself also, your mother is a whore, she should have taught you manners


I am sure that there is a nice person hiding in there somewhere.
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Postby Beastly on Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:29 am

tonywalrus wrote:A short parable about self interest, disguised as a lecture about generosity


You didn't answer not one of my questions?

You speak like you know of a better place than the USA... tell me where is this perfect place, where people live with no problems, Perfect people and with perfect leadership?

don't you have better things to do than be full of hatred for another part of the country?

everyone here has the privilege to have stupid opinions, but you are abusing it. Waiting for you to say something intelligent is like putting a candle in the window for Jimmy Hoffa.
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Postby Titanic on Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:07 am

Tony, how old is that extract? Its gotta be at least 10 years old, if not a cold war era piece of writing. It is completely out of date.
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Postby Beastly on Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:33 am

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You are the reason god gave us a middle finger...
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Postby D.IsleRealBrown on Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:37 am

It's good to see more than one person has been completely pwned in this thread.
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Postby tonywalrus on Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:41 am

Beastly wrote:
tonywalrus wrote:A short parable about self interest, disguised as a lecture about generosity


You didn't answer not one of my questions?

You speak like you know of a better place than the USA... tell me where is this perfect place, where people live with no problems, Perfect people and with perfect leadership?

don't you have better things to do than be full of hatred for another part of the country?

everyone here has the privilege to have stupid opinions, but you are abusing it. Waiting for you to say something intelligent is like putting a candle in the window for Jimmy Hoffa.


Ha, ha, You really believe that I care and you asume, for some reason, that I am an American!

"You didn't answer not one of my questions?" I am not even sure what this means.

Pwned
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Postby tonywalrus on Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:43 am

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You are the reason god gave us a middle finger...


No, god gave you a middle finger to play with yourself, which is what you are doing.




Enjoy.
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Postby tonywalrus on Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:44 am

Titanic wrote:Tony, how old is that extract? Its gotta be at least 10 years old, if not a cold war era piece of writing. It is completely out of date.


Which piece of writing?
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Postby Titanic on Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:45 am

Beastly, the better palce then USA? Easy, Western Europe, and generally the EU. Safer, cleaner, cleverer,richer, better relative wealth, greater history, military strength is around the same, respected internationally rather then hated by the world. The only reason USA seems to be so great is because no single country by itself can compete with it, but the EU as a whole can stand taller then the USA.
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Postby autoload on Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:55 am

D.IsleRealBrown wrote:It's good to see more than one person has been completely pwned in this thread.


I agree. If they only knew...

Beastly wrote:to All of you who are attending Schools in America and putting down this country, take a good look at your manners, do you behave like that in others homes? You are guest here, so behave yourself..

oh ya and please f*ck me silly since I am a whore. I should have been taught manners


While flattering, I will have to decline.
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Postby RenegadePaddy on Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:43 am

Beastly wrote:America is the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.


Tell that to African countries, refused debt cancellation on loans they cant even pay the interest on.

Or the poor sods in Guantanemo. They're being held illegally. POWs have rights under the Geneva convention. If they're not POWs, then the state needs to try them as criminals. Indefiinate detention without trial is the action of a banana republic, not the wannabee champion of the free world.


Beastly wrote:Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.


Because we finished paying back the loan not a month ago.

Beastly wrote:When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help.


Nope. Check US aid against that offered by other countries at pretty much any natural disaster - outdone by smaller nations, and frankly a pitiful amount in terms of per capita to boot.

Beastly wrote:The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.


Because of an illegal war. Fought for Oil. Please see the wonderfully patriotic slogans some of the US's finest have on their tanks - "Kick their ass, grab their gas" :roll:

Beastly wrote:I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane.


Ever heard of Eurofighter? Concorde (admittedly now gone, but still a landmark achievement)? German parts? :lol:

Beastly wrote:Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon?


Ever hear of a place called China? Do you even know why the US put men on the moon? Have you seen what is happening to NASAs funding? Do you realise that the ISS has a 3 man crew rather than 11 due to the shelving of a US piece of the project, that other nations are having to make up?

Beastly wrote:You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -not once, but several times and safely home again.


NASA is something to be proud of - but look at the way its being treated.

Beastly wrote:You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.


Eh?

Beastly wrote:When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.


Have you ever travelled on a French or German train? No, really. They're excellent, and vastly better than the shite here in the UK.

Beastly wrote:Americans race to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble?


Hurricane Katrina. Skipping the amusing politics of Cuba offering aid, the main reason the hurricane was so devastating was because millions of dollars worth of aid was left standing while beaurocrats in the US argued about who was in charge. That, and the humiliation (in the eyes of those in office at least) of the worlds richest nation having to ask for help.

Beastly wrote:to All of you who are attending Schools in America and putting down this country, take a good look at your manners, do you behave like that in others homes? You are guest here, so behave yourself..


I don't know who/what thats directed at :?

Beastly wrote:oh ya and go f*ck yourself also, your mother is a whore, she should have taught you manners


Wonderful maturity, manners, and thought out argument there.
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Postby unriggable on Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:15 pm

Beastly wrote:I heard it from a little birdie...

f*ck OFF!!!



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America is the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.


When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane.
Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -not once, but several times and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.

Americans race to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble?

to All of you who are attending Schools in America and putting down this country, take a good look at your manners, do you behave like that in others homes? You are guest here, so behave yourself..

oh ya and go f*ck yourself also, your mother is a whore, she should have taught you manners


Okay let's be constructive, seriously. Yes, America did do all that, and undoubtedly there is heart in those that live in this country, BUt we must remember some of the things that America has done that may not be honorable in any way. UFC (United Fruit Company) which monopolized Central American Fruit, led to America coming into Guatemala and ousting their publicly elected leader. Same thing happened to Iran, Chile, Indonesia, etc. etc. etc.
How else do you explain the Red Scare, which led to America policing the world? Essentially we are the cop who stops people driving in Lexuses (Lexi?) and Mercedeses (don't even want to try and pluyralize that) and give them a huge ticket, because they have what we want (money, gas, whatever). Today we continue to 'help' the countries that only have what we want - Condoleeza Rice declares Iran an insult to democracy because they do not allow women to run for office, yet she praises Saudi Arabian elections even though women aren't allowed to vote.
I don't blame you for being proud of your country. It is the greatest country possibly to ever exist. But you have to be humble and accept the flaws of American society.

Here's some food for thought - If standing armies destroyed Rome, why do we have them?
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