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Should attempted rape disqualify someone from office?

Yes, if it's true
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Yes, as long as the case if being investigated
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No, as long is there is doubt
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby HitRed on Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:14 pm

Symmetry wrote:
HitRed wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
We have Supreme Court term limits. Ginsburg's term is set to end when her clerks forget to fill the prescription for whatever wonder drug is keeping her alive.


:lol:


Weirdly enough, it's posts like these that make me think that a lot of this thread is about the contempt that the right has for women's lives.

I know that sounds extreme, but you're literally lolling over the potential death of a woman who has given much of her life to the law, in a thread about a guy who just dedicated himself to partisan politics over women and the law- to Trump essentially.


Symms about to start harping about the left and Alex Balwin portraying as Trump being old and senile. The left making fun of mental illness Symm won't tolerate. :lol:
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Symmetry on Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:19 pm

HitRed wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
HitRed wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
We have Supreme Court term limits. Ginsburg's term is set to end when her clerks forget to fill the prescription for whatever wonder drug is keeping her alive.


:lol:


Weirdly enough, it's posts like these that make me think that a lot of this thread is about the contempt that the right has for women's lives.

I know that sounds extreme, but you're literally lolling over the potential death of a woman who has given much of her life to the law, in a thread about a guy who just dedicated himself to partisan politics over women and the law- to Trump essentially.


Would Symm start harping about the left and Alex Balwin portraying as Trump being old and senile? Let's see.


I don't know how to reply to that reply. Are you talking to me? Do you mean Alec Baldwin? Baffling post, HR. Would it be ok for me to ask you to put your ideas in order before you post? It helps me figure out what you mean before you name-check me in rambling posts about one of the "Balwin" brothers.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby thegreekdog on Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:32 pm

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mrswdk wrote:I didn't say anything about Kavanaugh specifically. I said the American judiciary in general. The US has at least some partial judges who are nominated, by politicians, precisely because the politicians nominating them are aware that those judges are partial and favor those politicians' political leanings.

Looking at your claim that some judges are 'activists' who ignore precedent (even though the US has a case law system) and are picked by America's politicians precisely because they behave in this way, I was correct in saying what I did and you agree with me.

Kavanaugh may well be completely impartial as an individual, but the US justice system as a whole isn't and that is why people are able to gain traction when throwing shade at Kavanaugh's impartiality.


I suppose the alternative is that the ruling party removes all opposition party judges, imprisons and/or executes them, and replaces them with ruling party loyal judges. That seems like a process that work for you mrs.


Or, you could, you know, try to have a process that's about selecting competent practitioners of jurisprudence rather than standard-bearers for political parties.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45632035

In the UK, the 12-member Supreme Court was created in 2009, replacing the Law Lords in Parliament, bringing the UK into line with many comparable modern states. It acts as a final court of appeal in cases of major public importance.

The justices are nominated by an independent commission, chaired by the president of the court, a senior judge from anywhere in the UK to be named by the president and members of the appointment commissions from England and Wales, Scotland and Northern Irelan

(...)

These rules, experts say, mean that political positions of nominees are often unknown or irrelevant in the process.

(...)

"We have a completely independent process... It's almost seen like an internal promotion system rather than a politicised process," she added, saying that citizens can officially complain over alleged political bias.

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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby thegreekdog on Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:39 pm

Symmetry wrote:
HitRed wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
We have Supreme Court term limits. Ginsburg's term is set to end when her clerks forget to fill the prescription for whatever wonder drug is keeping her alive.


:lol:


Weirdly enough, it's posts like these that make me think that a lot of this thread is about the contempt that the right has for women's lives.

I know that sounds extreme, but you're literally lolling over the potential death of a woman who has given much of her life to the law, in a thread about a guy who just dedicated himself to partisan politics over women and the law- to Trump essentially.


RBG was not my favorite female justice (that would be SDO'C... I also really like Kagan - she's awesome in oral argument). In any event, the alternative to your "a guy who just dedicated himself to partisan politics" is "a guy who was just raked over the coals for one uncorroborated rape account from 36 years ago because of partisan politics." There's this thing with liberals where they are pretending Kavanaugh is the one who brought the partisan politics; pretty clear who did that from 20 minutes after Kavanaugh was nominated until now.

In any event, yeah, we should show some respect to RBG even if liberals couldn't do it for Kavanaugh (literally, 23 minutes after he was nominated).
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Symmetry on Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:57 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
HitRed wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
We have Supreme Court term limits. Ginsburg's term is set to end when her clerks forget to fill the prescription for whatever wonder drug is keeping her alive.


:lol:


Weirdly enough, it's posts like these that make me think that a lot of this thread is about the contempt that the right has for women's lives.

I know that sounds extreme, but you're literally lolling over the potential death of a woman who has given much of her life to the law, in a thread about a guy who just dedicated himself to partisan politics over women and the law- to Trump essentially.


RBG was not my favorite female justice (that would be SDO'C... I also really like Kagan - she's awesome in oral argument). In any event, the alternative to your "a guy who just dedicated himself to partisan politics" is "a guy who was just raked over the coals for one uncorroborated rape account from 36 years ago because of partisan politics." There's this thing with liberals where they are pretending Kavanaugh is the one who brought the partisan politics; pretty clear who did that from 20 minutes after Kavanaugh was nominated until now.

In any event, yeah, we should show some respect to RBG even if liberals couldn't do it for Kavanaugh (literally, 23 minutes after he was nominated).


I think Kavanaugh brought his Trump era politics to the fore in his testimony. Shouting down women, dodging questions.

Hell, you probably saw it. Or at least parts of it.

But let's face it- Kavanaugh put on a show. The Clintons are aftrer him because of a witch hunt? Huh, I don't think it's gonna take much time for mr to figure out whose language that is,
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:23 pm

Symmetry wrote:
HitRed wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
We have Supreme Court term limits. Ginsburg's term is set to end when her clerks forget to fill the prescription for whatever wonder drug is keeping her alive.


:lol:


Weirdly enough, it's posts like these that make me think that a lot of this thread is about the contempt that the right has for women's lives.


In all fairness to RBG, she hasn't aged a day.

She looked 85 twenty years ago, too.

*rimshot*

I know that sounds extreme, but you're literally lolling over the potential death of a woman who has given much of her life to the law, in a thread about a guy who just dedicated himself to partisan politics over women and the law- to Trump essentially.


It's not like she's a volunteer judge. This is her job, she accepts money to do it, and then spends that money on mortal things like Pringles, tampons, and IMAX tickets. Her devotion to the law is no more special than a bus driver's devotion to driving buses.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Symmetry on Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:28 pm

How long is the "Creepy Ronald Mcdonald" gimmick posting thing gonna last, Saxi?
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:31 pm

Symmetry wrote:How long is the "Creepy Ronald Mcdonald" gimmick posting thing gonna last, Saxi?


2 more days

And it's hipster Ronald!
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:56 am

Another Kavanaugh scandal - Pete Thamel has just broke that Kavanaugh apparently FAILED to make the Yale basketball team when he tried out in his freshman year ...

https://sports.yahoo.com/meet-coach-kep ... 47129.html
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:00 am

Would have worked better if you kept the headline they used.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Symmetry on Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:13 am

Dukasaur wrote:Would have worked better if you kept the headline they used.


There is no "better" way of working it. If you're trolling survivors of rape while using a Ronald McDonald avatar, you've peaked internet scum.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:27 am

Symmetry wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Would have worked better if you kept the headline they used.


There is no "better" way of working it. If you're trolling survivors of rape while using a Ronald McDonald avatar, you've peaked internet scum.


Who raptchedya?
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby mrswdk on Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:21 am

thegreekdog wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
mrswdk wrote:I didn't say anything about Kavanaugh specifically. I said the American judiciary in general. The US has at least some partial judges who are nominated, by politicians, precisely because the politicians nominating them are aware that those judges are partial and favor those politicians' political leanings.

Looking at your claim that some judges are 'activists' who ignore precedent (even though the US has a case law system) and are picked by America's politicians precisely because they behave in this way, I was correct in saying what I did and you agree with me.

Kavanaugh may well be completely impartial as an individual, but the US justice system as a whole isn't and that is why people are able to gain traction when throwing shade at Kavanaugh's impartiality.


I suppose the alternative is that the ruling party removes all opposition party judges, imprisons and/or executes them, and replaces them with ruling party loyal judges. That seems like a process that work for you mrs.


Or, you could, you know, try to have a process that's about selecting competent practitioners of jurisprudence rather than standard-bearers for political parties.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45632035

In the UK, the 12-member Supreme Court was created in 2009, replacing the Law Lords in Parliament, bringing the UK into line with many comparable modern states. It acts as a final court of appeal in cases of major public importance.

The justices are nominated by an independent commission, chaired by the president of the court, a senior judge from anywhere in the UK to be named by the president and members of the appointment commissions from England and Wales, Scotland and Northern Irelan

(...)

These rules, experts say, mean that political positions of nominees are often unknown or irrelevant in the process.

(...)

"We have a completely independent process... It's almost seen like an internal promotion system rather than a politicised process," she added, saying that citizens can officially complain over alleged political bias.

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Guys, guys... I was making fun of mrs being a Chinese nationalist.


Well I was thinking of the British process for nominating judges not the Chinese one so THERE.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby mrswdk on Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:24 am

saxitoxin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Would have worked better if you kept the headline they used.


There is no "better" way of working it. If you're trolling survivors of rape while using a Ronald McDonald avatar, you've peaked internet scum.


Who raptchedya?


Probably a Conservative MP.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby spurgistan on Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:41 pm

mrswdk wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
mrswdk wrote:I didn't say anything about Kavanaugh specifically. I said the American judiciary in general. The US has at least some partial judges who are nominated, by politicians, precisely because the politicians nominating them are aware that those judges are partial and favor those politicians' political leanings.

Looking at your claim that some judges are 'activists' who ignore precedent (even though the US has a case law system) and are picked by America's politicians precisely because they behave in this way, I was correct in saying what I did and you agree with me.

Kavanaugh may well be completely impartial as an individual, but the US justice system as a whole isn't and that is why people are able to gain traction when throwing shade at Kavanaugh's impartiality.


I suppose the alternative is that the ruling party removes all opposition party judges, imprisons and/or executes them, and replaces them with ruling party loyal judges. That seems like a process that work for you mrs.


Or, you could, you know, try to have a process that's about selecting competent practitioners of jurisprudence rather than standard-bearers for political parties.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45632035

In the UK, the 12-member Supreme Court was created in 2009, replacing the Law Lords in Parliament, bringing the UK into line with many comparable modern states. It acts as a final court of appeal in cases of major public importance.

The justices are nominated by an independent commission, chaired by the president of the court, a senior judge from anywhere in the UK to be named by the president and members of the appointment commissions from England and Wales, Scotland and Northern Irelan

(...)

These rules, experts say, mean that political positions of nominees are often unknown or irrelevant in the process.

(...)

"We have a completely independent process... It's almost seen like an internal promotion system rather than a politicised process," she added, saying that citizens can officially complain over alleged political bias.

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Guys, guys... I was making fun of mrs being a Chinese nationalist.


Well I was thinking of the British process for nominating judges not the Chinese one so THERE.


I just want to say I'm confused what happened to my quote there. TGD turned a very well-thought out post into, like, the worst memo.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:50 pm

even though this was supposed to be a lampoon of the Kavanaugh hearing, by having Matt Damon play him it made him look cool

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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby mrswdk on Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:35 pm

What's them being white got to do with it?
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby HitRed on Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:01 pm

saxitoxin wrote:even though this was supposed to be a lampoon of the Kavanaugh hearing, by having Matt Damon play him it made him look cool



I liked it. I like beer.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Neoteny on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:36 am

Ignoring the toothless liberals on SNL, I keep going back and forth over how effective this week is going to be for Dems. On the one hand, the FBI are cops, and they aren't going to be invested in this any more than they have to be. And all it is going to provide is an excuse for the Flakes and Collins of the senate to point at the results and say, "well, they didn't find anything, so I can vote 'yea' and use it as a Democrat-created shield from the repercussions." Worse, it provides the same opportunity to fucking Manchin and Heitkamp to continue voting Republican.

On the other hand, it provides time for people like Chad Ludington (a guy named "Chad Ludington" went to Yale? Say it ain't so!) and others to speak out. Obviously the FBI is going to be useless here, and perhaps even harmful to the Dem cause, but the more time we have for Chad Ludingtons (lol) can only help. Frankly, until the day of the vote, I don't even want to make a prediction anymore.

It's funny to me how so much of this has all been done before. During Clinton's impeachment, Dems were all about "it was just a blowjob," and Reps were quick to remind us it eventually became about "perjury." Obviously it was about abuse of power too, but different times. There's so much of Kav's testimony that could be targeted in a real way to try to expose perjury and damage his credibility as a judge, and not just his character. But Dems seem unwilling to do that, either because they are just inept, or are planning to use Kav's confirmation as some sort of campaign tool. In either case, they've already lost, and deservedly so.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby mrswdk on Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:24 am

There was probably a really major policy announcement that went through last week while the USG circle jerk theatre was going into overdrive playing party politics with the judicial system.

Maybe the fact that Trump has completely screwed the pooch with his 'I hate China' approach. On top of the tariffs he's also now started sanctioning the Chinese military and making arms sales to Taiwan, to the effect that China is refusing to talk to America about the tariffs any more and postponed bilateral military talks that were meant to happen next week.

The Evil Empire is now well and truly in its death throes. The Washington Swamp fiddles while America burns. Mandarin will be the global language by 2030.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:35 am

mrswdk wrote:to the effect that China is refusing to talk to America about the tariffs any more and postponed bilateral military talks that were meant to happen next week


China is running in circles like a headless mongoose. It desperately needed those negotiations to shore-up its own flailing economy and the intentional U.S. decision to stick its dick in China's eye with sanctions and Taiwanese arms sales left the PRC between a rock and a hard place ... back down to the U.S. in humiliation (Canada style) or chop off its own hand. Trump is playing hardball and offering no mercy, no quarter. The brittle Chinese political system is being pushed to the breaking point at an accelerated rate.

The NASDAQ and NYSE continue to surge as the Shanghai Composite is in a state of collapse. The Chinese factory sector is contracting as the U.S. surpasses full employment. Investor confidence in China is dropping while in the U.S. it's increasing. The U.S. is throwing every last ship in the USN's Battle Force into the Pacific, backed by more confident Japanese and ROK deployments, panicking a China which has yet to finish its plans for its blue water navy and is sitting with its pants around its ankles.

This is what's happening to China ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdpKnJNbU4o&t=2m53s
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby Neoteny on Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:53 am

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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby mrswdk on Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:23 am

saxitoxin wrote:
mrswdk wrote:to the effect that China is refusing to talk to America about the tariffs any more and postponed bilateral military talks that were meant to happen next week


China is running in circles like a headless mongoose. It desperately needed those negotiations to shore-up its own flailing economy


And yet the IMF is still projecting that China's economy is on track to eclipse America's in about the next five seconds:

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and the intentional U.S. decision to stick its dick in China's eye with sanctions and Taiwanese arms sales left the PRC between a rock and a hard place


The US stuck its dick in its own eye there. America buzzing around China rattling its saber is like a small fat child getting out of his car at the safari park to try and stamp on the lion's tail. Annoying, but he will just end up getting eaten.

The U.S. is throwing every last ship in the USN's Battle Force into the Pacific


And yet America's navy doesn't think it's even capable of stopping oil ships reaching China, let alone defeating China in combat.
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Re: Kavanaugh- Alleged victim comes forward

Postby HitRed on Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:48 pm

My friend Chris (1/2 American and 1/2 Chinese) ran the numbers and China will never have a higher GDP then the USA. He said this 15 years ago when the Red Dragon was on a tear and stands by it now.

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