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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Woodruff on Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:14 pm

Viceroy63 wrote:UC; I think that perhaps you give these Darwinist too much credit when you try to explain it to them. After all, if they had an open and intelligent mind with which to reason with in the first place, they would examine the evidence themselves instead of just plain outright rejecting the facts without even looking at the evidence provided.

All the available data points to the fact that God exist and that we are His creation. Created by an intelligence that is revealed to us in the Bible as God! That the Universe had a beginning and thus a beginner and that man is a product of Intelligent Design. Even science is coming back around to that conclusion.

I maintain that this thread is simply for the purpose of bashing believers and not for the intelligent discussion of the topic at hand.


When all you do is completely ignore the very reasonable and quite accurate responses to your posts, you leave us with little else to do. You are clearly not interested in actual discussion, because you have run from it full-speed throughout this long thread. Stop hiding. Discussion requires that both sides listen to the other side. To this point, neither yourself nor universalchiro has done so in the slightest, EVEN WHEN discussing these subjects with other religious individuals. If you don't like the frustrated responses you are getting, then you simply have to alter your own failed methods, for you are responsible. You are a hypocrite, plain and simple. Don't be a hypocrite...God doesn't like that.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby universalchiro on Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:11 am

universalchiro wrote:
chang50 wrote:
universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.


Noah's Ark was found in the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey. Built exactly as the Bible described it, built with the same wood as the Bible said, built with the same length, height and depth as the Bible describes it and resting in the location the Bible said it was. Genesis chapters 6-9. Read it and search, you will find. Ask for truth, you will get it. Knock and the door will be open to you. God is waiting for you.

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They have found timber, laid out with bulk heads, a keel, keelson, etc.
They found huge stones with a hole at the top, 3 on each side. These provide stabilization and prevent rocking and movement. Clearly for a ship, not meant to move, but to survive.

If you are too comfortable in believing in evolution and don't want truth, then just laugh and poke fun. But if you still have a mind and desire for truth, then you owe this to your eternal soul to seek for truth. Don't delay!



It's bordering on impossible not to laugh when someone thinks the theory of evolution deals with the formation of the earth,or have you checked that one out but forgot to retract your earlier statements?

You are performing logical suicide. What evolutionary process occurs on the earth without the earth? Nothing.
What evolutionary process occurs on the earth without the earth's natural processes? Nothing.
You are so blind to your own religion, you don't even know your own doctrine when you hear it.
Without the earth, no evolutionary process occurs on the earth. Every living thing has come to life from the earth's rock and rain of amino acids and proteins that formed complex structures that formed complex molecular structures and given enough time evolved through natural processes into single cell life form. And subsequently into the complexities of life today. Looks like you need the ABC's of evolution. For all and I mean all evolutionist believe the earth was molten 4.6 billion years ago and slowly cooled over millions of years to billion years allowing life to form. You are clueless. And I already addressed this by siting 2 sources of your religion that affirmed what I said.

Evolutionist are leaning too much on a crutch, "Nice straw man argument". Just continue in your ignorance. Believe what has already been proven a flawed hypothesis.


Evolution claims the Bible's Genesis 7-9 flood and Noah are false and just a made up story, Above is the proof and what does Evolutionist say:
When Evolutionist can't refute logic, they verbally attack personally the one who exposed them,
When Evolutionist can't refute the science against their belief system, they post pictures of Jack Nickolson to mock the one who mentally checkmated them.
When Evolutionist don't understand the science to even know that they have been revealed to have faith in what they don't know, just because they hate God, they reply, "Nice Straw man"...
When Evolutionist reply, often they will change the words of the one who exposed their flawed belief system and say "I agree with this post"
When Evolutionist don't fully know what they belief, they just know they hate God and Christians, they reply with "you are so arrogant and you only use circular reasoning"

I've seen this list of responses from the evolutionist time and time again, it reveals that ya'll may already have a depraved mind, that God may have fully left you to the wiles of your own lust. For the quality of debate has been muted in 5th grade responses. You don't want the truth, you want to continue in your hatred of God and His Word. You would rather believe a lie and something proven to take leaps of faith all the while ignoring mountains of evidence.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Woodruff on Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:58 am

universalchiro wrote:I've seen this list of responses from the evolutionist time and time again, it reveals that ya'll may already have a depraved mind, that God may have fully left you to the wiles of your own lust. For the quality of debate has been muted in 5th grade responses. You don't want the truth, you want to continue in your hatred of God and His Word. You would rather believe a lie and something proven to take leaps of faith all the while ignoring mountains of evidence.


Some self-reflection would do you wonders of good.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby waauw on Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:21 am

Viceroy63 wrote:UC; I think that perhaps you give these Darwinist too much credit when you try to explain it to them. After all, if they had an open and intelligent mind with which to reason with in the first place, they would examine the evidence themselves instead of just plain outright rejecting the facts without even looking at the evidence provided.

All the available data points to the fact that God exist and that we are His creation. Created by an intelligence that is revealed to us in the Bible as God! That the Universe had a beginning and thus a beginner and that man is a product of Intelligent Design. Even science is coming back around to that conclusion.

I maintain that this thread is simply for the purpose of bashing believers and not for the intelligent discussion of the topic at hand.



don't generalize, not all darwinists have the same personality... and keep in mind that you didn't prove creation whatsoever so far. You have only reduced probability of some scientific theories being true(but not definitely disprove). You have showed some evidences that might but don't per sƩ indicate some stories of the Bible being true. But that's about it. For the moment there is no evidence to make definite conclusions on the existence of a deity nor any of the surrounding theories.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby john9blue on Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:56 am

universalchiro wrote:I've seen this list of responses from the evolutionist time and time again, it reveals that ya'll may already have a depraved mind, that God may have fully left you to the wiles of your own lust. For the quality of debate has been muted in 5th grade responses. You don't want the truth, you want to continue in your hatred of God and His Word. You would rather believe a lie and something proven to take leaps of faith all the while ignoring mountains of evidence.


i think evolution is true, and i don't hate god, nor have i been posting 5th grade responses in this thread
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:28 am

john9blue wrote:
universalchiro wrote:I've seen this list of responses from the evolutionist time and time again, it reveals that ya'll may already have a depraved mind, that God may have fully left you to the wiles of your own lust. For the quality of debate has been muted in 5th grade responses. You don't want the truth, you want to continue in your hatred of God and His Word. You would rather believe a lie and something proven to take leaps of faith all the while ignoring mountains of evidence.


i think evolution is true, and i don't hate god, nor have i been posting 5th grade responses in this thread


And... your approach doesn't matter with crazy people like chiro.

To me, chiro is similar to a racist. Both are ignorant, prejudiced, biased, and harmful on net to society. Such people shouldn't have their hand held and their feelings assuaged. They're just despicable people that don't deserve the time of day.

Is it a 5th grade response to not respect a racist? No. You're acting like an apologist.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Viceroy63 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:41 pm

waauw wrote:
Viceroy63 wrote:UC; I think that perhaps you give these Darwinist too much credit when you try to explain it to them. After all, if they had an open and intelligent mind with which to reason with in the first place, they would examine the evidence themselves instead of just plain outright rejecting the facts without even looking at the evidence provided.

All the available data points to the fact that God exist and that we are His creation. Created by an intelligence that is revealed to us in the Bible as God! That the Universe had a beginning and thus a beginner and that man is a product of Intelligent Design. Even science is coming back around to that conclusion.

I maintain that this thread is simply for the purpose of bashing believers and not for the intelligent discussion of the topic at hand.



don't generalize, not all darwinists have the same personality... and keep in mind that you didn't prove creation whatsoever so far. You have only reduced probability of some scientific theories being true(but not definitely disprove). You have showed some evidences that might but don't per sƩ indicate some stories of the Bible being true. But that's about it. For the moment there is no evidence to make definite conclusions on the existence of a deity nor any of the surrounding theories.


Thank You Waaaw! I appreciate your honesty.

Perhaps you should consider the fact that you may not be a true Darwinist yet but only one in the making???

It's never to late to turn from the "Dark Side" of the force. Just Ask Anakin Skywallker. lol. =)
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby tzor on Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:13 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:1. Assume my God exists and is totes awesome cuz he wrote the book and that's true because it is.


First of all, God didn't "write" any books. He did write ten words or statements on two tablets, but they broke the first copy and the second copy got lost and is currently (some people believe) somewhere in Ethiopia.

Not only that His Son didn't write any books either. Witnesses have attested that he did scribble on the ground once, but they never bothered to record what he wrote.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Viceroy63 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:41 pm

tzor wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:1. Assume my God exists and is totes awesome cuz he wrote the book and that's true because it is.


First of all, God didn't "write" any books. He did write ten words or statements on two tablets, but they broke the first copy and the second copy got lost and is currently (some people believe) somewhere in Ethiopia.

Not only that His Son [Jesus Christ] didn't write any books either. Witnesses have attested that he did scribble on the ground once, but they never bothered to record what he wrote.


Thanks Tzor! Well stated. Very well stated.

BigBallinStalin: You should really have your small children proof read what you write down as comments for accuracy and reliability if not just for good old COMMON SENSE!
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Woodruff on Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:23 pm

tzor wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:1. Assume my God exists and is totes awesome cuz he wrote the book and that's true because it is.


First of all, God didn't "write" any books. He did write ten words or statements on two tablets, but they broke the first copy and the second copy got lost and is currently (some people believe) somewhere in Ethiopia.

Not only that His Son didn't write any books either. Witnesses have attested that he did scribble on the ground once, but they never bothered to record what he wrote.


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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Viceroy63 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:34 pm

tzor wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:1. Assume my God exists and is totes awesome cuz he wrote the book and that's true because it is.


First of all, God didn't "write" any books. He did write ten words or statements on two tablets, but they broke the first copy and the second copy got lost and is currently (some people believe) somewhere in Ethiopia.

Not only that His Son didn't write any books either. Witnesses have attested that he did scribble on the ground once, but they never bothered to record what he wrote.


I personally believe that those tablets are stored in some huge underground government warehouse some where in Area 51. Just like in the movie, "Raiders of the Lost Ark." Only bigger. lol.

Our government knows everything and has everything. lol. =)
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby crispybits on Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:01 pm

Of course, it couldn't be a group that you don't belong to in some way that has the answers to the most mystifying questions ever to be asked by man. You are in the special group that holds the knowledge and the power, and there's no chance you're wrong.

And you religious folk claim humility - lol
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:02 pm

Guys, here's some evidence

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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby john9blue on Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:11 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:And... your approach doesn't matter with crazy people like chiro.

To me, chiro is similar to a racist. Both are ignorant, prejudiced, biased, and harmful on net to society. Such people shouldn't have their hand held and their feelings assuaged. They're just despicable people that don't deserve the time of day.

Is it a 5th grade response to not respect a racist? No. You're acting like an apologist.


i think militant atheists share all of those traits as well.

i also don't think chiro is harmful to society, but that's a debate for the other thread.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Lootifer on Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:46 pm

universalchiro wrote:
universalchiro wrote:One of the reasons people don't believe in the Bible, is because scientist are calculating life on earth to be billions of years old and the Bible describes life began on earth maybe 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. The two are complete opposites, so both can't be correct. Since most of the world is declaring science is correct and the Bible is wrong, this creates a strong aversion of keeping people away from the Bible and quells any desire to read the Bible.

So let's look at how science derives to this old earth conclusion and is it accurate and truth:
They use an algorithmic formula of radioactive Isotopes to determine the age of things. For example:
Pb (Lead) X Constant Rate of Decay = Age of the Earth or item being tested
Po (Polonium)

The key is multiplying by a Constant Rate of Decay. If the rate of decay has always been constant then the age is accurate and probably truth, which means the Bible couldn't be true. But if the rate of decay is not constant, then the age is wildly inaccurate and the basis for not reading the Bible is broken.

Are there examples of the rate of decay not be constant? Yes. Whenever there is trauma on the earth, eg earthquakes, meteors, asteroid, floods, tsunami, volcanic eruptions, etc, that accelerates the aging process. Are there examples in nature of the aging process being accelerated? yes. In Nature: Mt. Saint Helen erupted in 1980 and it's violent eruption produced petrified trees in 30 years. A process that we are told takes 500,000 years. Wow that is a massive acceleration of the aging process. Can mankind accelerate the aging process? Yes. Take a piece of wood, sealed in a vacuum, with trace elements of clay, H2O and bake it at 150 degrees Celsius for 8 months (essentially a buried earth scenario). That piece of wood turns into 100% coal. Take that newly formed coal and the top scientist will determine the age to be 20 million years old with the best equipment available. But they would be wildly off, for that coal is not 20 million years old, it's only 8 months old.The old age of life on earth is the foundation for which all evolution is built upon. Since the constant rate of decay has been proven to not be a constant, then the age of life on earth is inaccurate. Hopefully people won't be so against reading what the Bible teaches, for the source that was saying the Bible to be inaccurate has been broken. The Bible declares God made the heavens and the earth and all that is in them in 6 days and rested the 7th day (probably around 6,000 to 10,000 years ago.).

Just another example of the holes in evolution. 1 of many. Stop having blind faith in evolution.

Note the highlighted is incorrect.

That process will only produce coal. But it will not age the artificial coal in such a way that it returns a positive test for 20 million year old coal. If you date the resulting coal it will return the age of the initial pre-coalification wood sample. The reports of this coal making process cited nowhere that they tested the coal for its age. It was infact an assertion that was later added to the experiment by some creationist.

If you disagree UC please cite your evidence. I want to know who and how the resulting coal was tested.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby 2dimes on Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:58 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:Guys, here's some evidence

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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Woodruff on Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:37 am

john9blue wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:And... your approach doesn't matter with crazy people like chiro.

To me, chiro is similar to a racist. Both are ignorant, prejudiced, biased, and harmful on net to society. Such people shouldn't have their hand held and their feelings assuaged. They're just despicable people that don't deserve the time of day.

Is it a 5th grade response to not respect a racist? No. You're acting like an apologist.


i think militant atheists share all of those traits as well.


No question. And I don't think very many folks here would disagree with that statement. That's not really an excuse, though.

john9blue wrote:i also don't think chiro is harmful to society, but that's a debate for the other thread.


Obviously, there's no telling with specific individuals. However, people who share his outlook can be harmful to advancement of science and education of our youth, among other things.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby universalchiro on Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:03 am

CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.

As a doctor, I have done & will do more for society than any you stone throwers. I know your darkened hearts and hatred for God, His word & believers blinds you. I also know that you are the ilk that will physically persecute Christians. How do I know this? The Bible that has told of 2000+ events would happen before they happened, has foretold of scoffers coming in the last days that will mock & put up teachers for themselves that only tickle their own lustful ears. And you will persecute my kind. Your hatred for anything associated with God is swelling. Your actions of calling what is good evil & calling what is evil good, is the result of a depraved mind from a fully corrupted heart. Why? God has turned his back on you. And so have I.

Those that still have an open mind, ask in earnest for the truth & it will be given to you. Mockers of God, those filled with twisted hatred such as woodruff & Bigballinstallin & crispybits have been foed. Their fate is set.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby waauw on Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:18 am

lol some of the comments here are hilarious :lol:
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:42 am

universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.

As a doctor, I have done & will do more for society than any you stone throwers. I know your darkened hearts and hatred for God, His word & believers blinds you. I also know that you are the ilk that will physically persecute Christians. How do I know this? The Bible that has told of 2000+ events would happen before they happened, has foretold of scoffers coming in the last days that will mock & put up teachers for themselves that only tickle their own lustful ears. And you will persecute my kind. Your hatred for anything associated with God is swelling. Your actions of calling what is good evil & calling what is evil good, is the result of a depraved mind from a fully corrupted heart. Why? God has turned his back on you. And so have I.

Those that still have an open mind, ask in earnest for the truth & it will be given to you. Mockers of God, those filled with twisted hatred such as woodruff & Bigballinstallin & crispybits have been foed. Their fate is set.



So if I make some wild statements, and then say "I predict that some people won't believe me", and some people don't, that validates the rest of my statements.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:18 am

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universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.

As a doctor, I have done & will do more for society than any you stone throwers. I know your darkened hearts and hatred for God, His word & believers blinds you. I also know that you are the ilk that will physically persecute Christians. How do I know this? The Bible that has told of 2000+ events would happen before they happened, has foretold of scoffers coming in the last days that will mock & put up teachers for themselves that only tickle their own lustful ears. And you will persecute my kind. Your hatred for anything associated with God is swelling. Your actions of calling what is good evil & calling what is evil good, is the result of a depraved mind from a fully corrupted heart. Why? God has turned his back on you. And so have I.

Those that still have an open mind, ask in earnest for the truth & it will be given to you. Mockers of God, those filled with twisted hatred such as woodruff & Bigballinstallin & crispybits have been foed. Their fate is set.



So if I make some wild statements, and then say "I predict that some people won't believe me", and some people don't, that validates the rest of my statements.
But you are the one spewing hate, not the unbelievers.


Jones; You just haven't been paying attention have you? I said it before and I will say it again, This thread is for God hating darwinist to insult and bash the believer. Don't you see how few believers comment on this thread? Are you blind sir?

I am not trying to insult you, man. I am seriously asking the questions because I don't see Chiro's word's as anything but a human response to being bashed and insulted under the guise of having an intelligent conversation since he began commenting here. A bait and switch if you will and If you don't see that or are in agreement with that then you are truly either blind or evil minded and not even honest enough to admit it.

I will say it again and continue to state it that this thread is a hate mongering thread devise by God hating individuals, to bash believers over the head with insults in what appears to be an honest question but the only response that we get is that we must be "Idiots, stupid or ignorant" for believing in a God, despite the massive amount of evidence presented. This thread should be locked but as the Mods are probably enjoying all the hate mongering, they'll just sit back and enjoy this and milk it for every laugh that they can from here till judgment day.

In part the fault lies with the unsuspecting believer who sees this thread for the first time and honestly believes that he is going to make a contribution but instead gets sent home all insulted. But as I see it there are lots of believers who have been through here and have learned by being insulted by you God hating fools. God calls you a fool not I. I intend to make it my mission here to continue stating this with every person that comments on this thread and to remind everyone what this thread is really about.

I am sorry that you can't see that but for you to accuse Chiro of "Spewing Hate" only shows that you really either have not been reading this whole thread correctly or are also just a hate mongering God hating false accusing person taking part in this whole scam by stating a falsehood that it is Chiro who is the bad guy here when he only tried to have an intelligent conversation on this thread right from the start. It was Darwinist like yourself who first started spewing hate as you are doing right now with those false words. Chiro's reaction is a flawed human response to insults but I am pretty sure that even so, he most probably mentions this thread in his prayers as Do I and for all those that comment here. Even if I don't know you, I still remember the hate in this thread and pray about it to God.

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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:39 am

Viceroy63 wrote: insulted under the guise of having an intelligent conversation since he began commenting here.


This is where he went wrong I think, since he seemed so narrow focused and unopen to actual discussion (other than posting his thoughts in repeat). It seemed like he was on a way street most of the time.


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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:50 am

I don't "hate God". I see no reason to believe he's there.
I don't hate you or uchiro - I think you're misguided, and it's irritating the way that you both ignore serious responses to your points. Sometimes its so irritating that people's language becomes too ripe.

But I think I'm justified in calling the following "hate-spewing"
Your actions of calling what is good evil & calling what is evil good, is the result of a depraved mind from a fully corrupted heart.


And your own arrogance is amazing sometimes. Now, it's god calling me names, not you. Really?
You could always set up a dating site, and tell the customers you're finding God's match for them, since you understand God so well.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Woodruff on Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:55 pm

universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.


As a doctor, I have done & will do more for society than any you stone throwers


Aren't you just an arrogant bastard? See, I think this is precisely your biggest problem. You're convinced you CAN'T be wrong. That makes you worse than most atheists. Yes, worse.

universalchiro wrote:Those that still have an open mind, ask in earnest for the truth & it will be given to you. Mockers of God, those filled with twisted hatred such as woodruff & Bigballinstallin & crispybits have been foed. Their fate is set.


Thanks, Phatscotty. You seem to be the one with all of the hatred, to be honest.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:55 pm

Viceroy63 wrote:
tzor wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:1. Assume my God exists and is totes awesome cuz he wrote the book and that's true because it is.


First of all, God didn't "write" any books. He did write ten words or statements on two tablets, but they broke the first copy and the second copy got lost and is currently (some people believe) somewhere in Ethiopia.

Not only that His Son [Jesus Christ] didn't write any books either. Witnesses have attested that he did scribble on the ground once, but they never bothered to record what he wrote.


Thanks Tzor! Well stated. Very well stated.

BigBallinStalin: You should really have your small children proof read what you write down as comments for accuracy and reliability if not just for good old COMMON SENSE!


Then y'all can agree with me that nothing in the Bible is truly about God.
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