Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

[DoomYoshi]

All the Muffins!

[GoranZ]

Financial problems for Boeing?

Boeing Seeks $10 Billion in Loans As Costs From 737 Max Crashes Increase

[jusplay4fun]

NOT because Jim said so, but that in the greater view, a few people getting jet fuel dumped on them is not that big a harm. NOT when compared to starving and killing of MILLIONS of Chinese, for example. THAT is a SIGNIFICANT problem. NOT when compared to Terrorist who KILL 2, or 5 or 12 people. That happens in the USA and ALL Over the middle east. That is the point. You bring up a few minor problems and want to make it sound like the WORSE thing in history when those of us who understand proportionality can put such minor incidents in proper perspective. You merely think anything BAD done by the US Government or company is PURE evil when you cannot understand proportions. You portray a false narrative, trying to make "mountains out of molehills."

Get REAL; use our brain to put things in proper perspective. Let me give you one more where you BLOW THINGS out of proporions:

10 posts found in search of Great Leap Forward: 3 by me and ONLY two my mrswdk; 2 by DUk..

I found time to check on your claim when I found time to do so. And guess what I found? That you paint a false scene and exaggerate numbers. Imagine that. I made the claim that you do so, you TROLL, and now I have PROOF.

Great Leap Forward

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/search.php?keywords=Great+Leap+FOrward&fid%5B0%5D=8

only 33 total posts in this Forum Thread, SO not million of post: HYPERBOLE, as I already said:
Re: Hong Kong rioters now assassins

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=231786&p=5128980&hilit=Great+Leap+FOrward#p5128980
33 posts, As of 1/23/20


So mrswdk wants to argue it is “only” 30 million instead of 76 million Chinese citizens killed by the Chinese Government under Mao, so that the lower number is acceptable. And because of this lower number of Chinese citizens starved to DEATH by Mao and his government, that this allows mrswdk to pass judgement on the CLEAR EVILS of the USA and UK. Yes, China is SO PURE and HOLY and the West is SO EVIL. And you criticize others for their DELUSIONS? REALLY? LOOK in the mirror, if you dare. The evils of China in recent years and under Mao are clear. The evils and terror and inhumanity of Communist, that mrswdk and Goranz defend, are very clear and are untenable. Keep trying to put rouge on that ugly face of Communism and EVIL, you two. Keep trying. You have convinced NO ONE of the greatness and moral superiority of the Chinese and of Communism.

10 posts found in search of Great Leap Forward: 3 by me and ONLY two my mrswdk; 2 by DUk..
Great Leap Forward

search.php?keywords=Great+Leap+FOrward&fid%5B0%5D=8
only 33 total posts in this Forum Thread, SO not million of post, claimed by mrswdk: HYPERBOLE, as I already said.


CLEARLY mrswdk does not understand proportions when he posts only TWO BUT CLAIMS MILLIONS. It is a FALSE narrative, again.

check the thread Re:

Hong Kong rioters now assassins

JP4Fun

The point. is you’re a troll who likes to blow bad things out of proportion when they are perpetrated by the USA / “the West” / Americans....

It's alright, guys. Dozens of kids were sprayed with jet fuel in their playgrounds and had to be attended by medics but it's not a big deal because jim says so.

[NomadPatriot]

no one cares.....

[GoranZ]

So mrswdk wants to argue it is “only” 30 million instead of 76 million Chinese citizens killed by the Chinese Government under Mao, so that the lower number is acceptable. And because of this lower number of Chinese citizens starved to DEATH by Mao and his government, that this allows mrswdk to pass judgement on the CLEAR EVILS of the USA and UK. Yes, China is SO PURE and HOLY and the West is SO EVIL. And you criticize others for their DELUSIONS? REALLY? LOOK in the mirror, if you dare. The evils of China in recent years and under Mao are clear. The evils and terror and inhumanity of Communist, that mrswdk and Goranz defend, are very clear and are untenable. Keep trying to put rouge on that ugly face of Communism and EVIL, you two. Keep trying. You have convinced NO ONE of the greatness and moral superiority of the Chinese and of Communism.

Wait, what I defend? terror and inhumanity of Chinese Communist party? Where did you read this? Actually dont bother I dont care and it will be off topic.

Did Chinese Communists actions rigged Boeing 737 MAX? No! That's what I thought of. Keep your comments to the topic

jusplay4fun Ignorance, Incompetence and Idiotism have driven Boeing to the biggest debacle it has ever witnessed, with people like you US is following the same footsteps

[mrswdk]

10 posts found in search of Great Leap Forward

Hardly surprising given that the OT records only go back a year or two, since one of the mods fucked up and deleted the entire OT archive.

Chinese citizens starved to DEATH by Mao and his government

Starved accidentally as the result of a policy f*ck up, not starved deliberately. Which you don't know because you've never actually bothered to do any research beyond 'hurr durr mao evil'.

[GoranZ]

Another Boeing model bites the dust... This time without casualties tho. Boeing chose to surrender to Airbuses superiority.

The Boeing 797/NMA Is Going Back To The Drawing Boards

Boeing has shelved all of its plans for the ‘797 NMA’ and has been asked to return to the drawing board by its new CEO. This is surprising as the Boeing 797 was rumored to be on the verge of announcement only a year ago, but now seems to be a concept that needs to be rebuilt from scratch.

Why has Boeing restarted the project?

Essentially, the market has changed.

“Since the first clean sheet of paper was taken to it, things have changed a bit … the competitive playing field is a little different,” Boeing Chief Executive Dave Calhoun told Reuters journalists on a conference call on Wednesday.

“We’re going to start with a clean sheet of paper again; I’m looking forward to that,”

“[The CEO] has asked the team to do an assessment of the future market and what kind of airplane is needed to meet the future market,” – Boeing Spokesperson to Reuters

There are two major situations that have occurred in the last year that they may be referring to.

The first is the Boeing 737 MAX disaster. Boeing has had to deal with the fallout of this scenario for the last year and put other new jet development programs like the Boeing 777X on the backburner.

Another issue is that a new rival aircraft has appeared which does largely what the Boeing 797 intended to do. Airbus launched the Airbus A321XLR aircraft back at the Paris Air Show and it has snapped up orders from many different airlines. This aircraft can fly an incredible range and seats up to 220 passengers.

Overall nicely done from Airbus, they managed to beat Boeing for Bombardier's C Series, Airbus A320neo(Boeing 737 MAX direct competitor) and now Airbus A321XLR mop the floor with Boeing 797.
Looks like this decade will be a lost one for Boeing. And who knows if they will ever return to their previous successes considering the upcoming competition from China/Russia.

[jusplay4fun]

Again, you are WRONG as there has been 3 replies by the usual 2 trolls in this Forum. Give it up, MADP.

no one cares.....

[NomadPatriot]

I wonder if school teacher will say " 33 posts & not millions " about 10 more times..

because repeating yourself over & over & over again in 1 single post doesn't make you seem like a lunatic...

[GoranZ]

The first thing to know about Boeing’s mad scramble to line up “$10 billion or more” in new funding via a loan from a consortium of banks, on top of the $9.5 billion credit-line it obtained in October last year – efforts to somehow get through its cash-flow nightmare caused by the 737 MAX fiasco – is that the company blew, wasted, and incinerated $43.4 billion to buy back its own shares since June 2013, having become a master of financial engineering instead of aircraft engineering.

If Boeing had focused on its business – such as designing a new plane instead of doctoring an ancient design to save money and time – and if it hadn’t blown $43 billion on share-buybacks but had invested this money in a new design, those two crashes wouldn’t have occurred, and it wouldn’t have to beg for cash now.

The second thing to know about Boeing’s mad scramble to borrow another $10 billion is that it already has a huge amount of debt and other liabilities, and that its total liabilities ($136 billion) exceed its total assets ($132 billion) by about $4 billion as of September 2019, meaning that it has negative net equity.

After Blowing $43 Bn on Share-Buybacks in 6 Years, Boeing Scrambles to Borrow $10 Bn, on Top of a $9.5 Bn Credit Line in Oct, to Fund its 737 MAX Fiasco

Even without 737 MAX fiasco Boeing was in trouble... now its a question if US would like to risk more money to save the infamous aircraft manufacturer.
jusplay4fun you better get comfortable with Airbus planes, you gonna see them more and more, and eventually they will replace all Boeing planes

[2dimes]

Shouldn't the title be updated to reflect the new purpose of this thread?

[GoranZ]

Huge drop!

Aerospace company Boeing is continuing to endure fallout from the grounding of its 737 MAX, as the company announced its fourth-quarter results showed a 37% drop in revenue compared to last year’s period.

Boeing Posts First Annual Loss in 20 Years, ‘Significantly Impacted’ by 737 MAX Grounding

[Dukasaur]

Huge drop!

Aerospace company Boeing is continuing to endure fallout from the grounding of its 737 MAX, as the company announced its fourth-quarter results showed a 37% drop in revenue compared to last year’s period.

Boeing Posts First Annual Loss in 20 Years, ‘Significantly Impacted’ by 737 MAX Grounding

And yet, the man in charge gets to walk away with a payout that's at least 26.5 million and could reach double that. One major supplier has now laid off 2800 workers; others will surely follow. But no matter how empty the cookie jar gets, there will always be cookies for head office.

[HitRed]

Buying opportunity. Just like BP

[2dimes]

Unless it's the end.How are your grandpas Douglas shares doing?

[GoranZ]

Huge drop!

Aerospace company Boeing is continuing to endure fallout from the grounding of its 737 MAX, as the company announced its fourth-quarter results showed a 37% drop in revenue compared to last year’s period.

Boeing Posts First Annual Loss in 20 Years, ‘Significantly Impacted’ by 737 MAX Grounding

And yet, the man in charge gets to walk away with a payout that's at least 26.5 million and could reach double that. One major supplier has now laid off 2800 workers; others will surely follow. But no matter how empty the cookie jar gets, there will always be cookies for head office.

Unfortunately yes

Unless it's the end.How are your grandpas Douglas shares doing?

I heard HitRed is using those for wiping his ass.

[mrswdk]

YET ANOTHER glitch has been found in Botched Boeing's software, further delaying the return of the 737:

https://www.ft.com/content/6c1f0460-395 ... 26f8c3cba4

By the time it makes it back into the skies (if ever), will anyone be stupid enough to climb on board one of Boeing's death traps?

[NomadPatriot]

YET ANOTHER glitch has been found in Botched Boeing's software, further delaying the return of the 737:

https://www.ft.com/content/6c1f0460-395 ... 26f8c3cba4

By the time it makes it back into the skies (if ever), will anyone be stupid enough to climb on board one of Boeing's death traps?

death trap's.. who died …?

feel free to fly something that's not a Boeing...

oh wait..

Airbus is corrupt & Comac sucks..

[2dimes]

Who died? Click here.


While I personally don't like Airbuses much, it's because they are like the 737max flown by a computer. The crews that fly in them usually like them very much.

[GoranZ]

Can someone guess the model?

"During a hard landing at the Usinsk Airport due to landing gear problems, the plane hit the runway with its tail. According to preliminary data, there were no casualties from the incident", a source with the emergency services stated.

Utair Flight Crash Lands in Usinsk in Northern Russia


Again Boeing 737

[NomadPatriot]

Can someone guess the model?

"During a hard landing at the Usinsk Airport due to landing gear problems, the plane hit the runway with its tail. According to preliminary data, there were no casualties from the incident", a source with the emergency services stated.

Utair Flight Crash Lands in Usinsk in Northern Russia


Again Boeing 737

maybe because 26% of jetliners are boeing 737's.. & 43% of all jetliners are Boeing...

notice how you blame the plane.. " the plane hit the runway with its tail. "

no.. the PILOt landed the plane tail first..

it's not Boeing's fault these idiots do not know how to fly or the mechanics in these foreign countries do not keep them up to date..

but yet another example of a Boeing crashing due to pilot or maintenance errors with no casualties...

[riskllama]

how does one keep an aircraft "up to date"?

[GoranZ]

maybe because 26% of jetliners are boeing 737's...

For how long will Boeing keep that percentage?

no.. the PILOt landed the plane tail first..

What do you expect they to do without landing gear?

how does one keep an aircraft "up to date"?

Buying new Airbus instead of Boeing

[riskllama]

how does one keep an aircraft "up to date"?

Buying new Airbus instead of Boeing

wow, ok. and here i thought he was referring to paint schemes and reupholstering the seats and whatnot.

[GoranZ]

how does one keep an aircraft "up to date"?

Buying new Airbus instead of Boeing

wow, ok. and here i thought he was referring to paint schemes and reupholstering the seats and whatnot.

Paint doesn't last long... 50 year old design like 737 MAX demonstrated that

Boeing Gets No January Orders For The 1st Time In Over 50 Years!

Zero January orders for Boeing!
The end is near, isn't it?