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Re: Football (real)

Postby strike wolf on Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:35 am

oVo wrote:Tennessee's biggest misfortune is yet to come... this season was a disappointment and the "what have you done for me lately" mentality has sacked another excellent coach. Letting Fulmer go will probably extend the Vol's suffering while they attempt to keep pace with the SEC teams that already have all the pieces of the puzzle in place... like Alabama, Florida, Georgia... and yes... even LSU. I believe Coach Nutt will even make Ole Miss a power to be reckonned with. So screw Arkansas too... like Tenneessee... they look at the rest of the conference and think the grass is greener everywhere else and don't even remember the solid foundation that has built them some national powerhouses.


Yeah Fulmer helped rebuild a Tennessee team which for a long time had been the powerhouse of the SEC, however Tennessee has always been a good team and I think they will be able to find another good coach to replace Fulmer. As far as Georgia's concerned. Richt is a good coach but he doesn't have the best staff. Bobo is not fit to be the offensive coordinator (as proven time and time again by calling horrible calls that end up halting what probably should have been touchdown drives) and Martinez is a bit overrated as defensive coordinator, he's a good coach but not the great defensive strategist that he's often made out to be. Also the coaches working under him on the defense may need to go as Georgia is a piss-poor team when it comes to actually tackling. We never wrap up like we should and it's shown against Kentucky and Auburn especially.

oVo wrote:HOLY CRAP! ... Oklahoma was favored by a touchdown and I do believe they covered the spread. Nobody saw that Sooner ambush hiding in the wings... in fact... OU/TT looked a lot like the Florida/Citadel game... and the score nearly matched it, 'cept Tech added a TD with 11 seconds to go... and The Citadel isn't exactly ranked #2 in anything.
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Looked a lot like the Big 12 impersonating the SEC for one game...
and maybe another kick in the ass for the BCS.


I don't even know what to say about this game. I was kind of anticipating that TT would lose but I never expected them to get their asses handed to them like that.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Quirk on Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:29 pm

:D :D :D
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It's been so long since there was any good news for Falcons fans. I don't know how to react to having a decent team. Our record is now 7-4. Our schedule looks promising. The best part is I've actually been able to watch some games this year now that I've given up sleep.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby strike wolf on Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:37 pm

Quirk wrote::D :D :D
Carolina 28
Atlanta 45
It's been so long since there was any good news for Falcons fans. I don't know how to react to having a decent team. Our record is now 7-4. Our schedule looks promising. The best part is I've actually been able to watch some games this year now that I've given up sleep.


Yes you can find time for many, many things if you don't have to sleep. I was at this game. Saw the huge pass play that led to the td that put Atlanta up 31-21 and shifted momentum back towards Atlanta. Awesome game, Atlanta came out to a great start and never lost the lead despite a very good effort from Carolina.

In other news, Tennessee got pounded ending their perfect season (GO JETS!). Though for all the people looking for a perfect season, don't worry the Lions still have a chance.

Polls are out for the NCAA, Alabama is still number 1 while Texas and Oklahoma are number 2&3 respectively. National title bid isn't over for TT either though because an Oklahoma St. victory would propell them into the Big 12 championship and maybe a shot at the national title against the SEC.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby oVo on Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:56 am

Texas Tech, who were America's darlings after beating Texas & OK State in the Saturday night spotlight, is now the bridesmaid and with a BCS #7... out of the hunt. OK State & Oklahoma is always a great game... but I believe the Sooners are on a roll and will prevail in Stillwater. So if the BCS standings remain the same, even though Tech beat 'em... Texas goes to the Big 12 Championship to face Missouri. Curious thing there would be... Mizzou wins that game and OU then goes to the BCS Championship against the SEC Champ.

Unless of course... OK State beats Oklahoma... Then it's Texas Tech vs Mizzou for the Big 12 Championship and... just maybe it's Texas vs the SEC Champion.

Crazy eh?

and . . . another rivalry game... Texas at Texas A&M on Thanksgiving could change all of that.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby strike wolf on Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:25 pm

Texas won't lose to Tech and A&M in the same year though I still wouldn't count Tech out of the national championship. If OSU beat Oklahoma and Tech tore Mizzou apart, I can see Tech getting the bid.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby kerntheconkerer on Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:22 pm

Quirk wrote::D :D :D
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It's been so long since there was any good news for Falcons fans. I don't know how to react to having a decent team. Our record is now 7-4. Our schedule looks promising. The best part is I've actually been able to watch some games this year now that I've given up sleep.

Yea, there one of the many surprises of this season. I'm not a big Falcon's fan but its nice to see some nice records in the NFC...
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Re: Football (real)

Postby oVo on Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:02 pm

strike wolf wrote:Texas won't lose to Tech and A&M in the same year though I still wouldn't count Tech out of the national championship. If OSU beat Oklahoma and Tech tore Mizzou apart, I can see Tech getting the bid.

It's hard to imagine Texas Tech in the BCS Championship game after getting totally dominated by Oklahoma.
USC, Penn State and Florida all lost to unranked teams... and only Florida has the opportunity to play their way into a title game.

If Oregon State wins the Pac 10 and gets a rematch with Penn State in the Rose Bowl, I'd kind of like to see Ohio State rematched against USC... but an OSU/Georgia game would be cool too and Texas or Oklahoma vs Alabama or Florida.

I really like seeing the Falcons playing well after all the bs they've been through with Michael Vick
and the thumping they just put on Carolina was huge... the dirty birds are back!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby strike wolf on Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:57 pm

Yeah, Personally I was never a Vick fan.

Anyways an interesting day in the world of college football. Arkansas beats LSU by one point (31-30) with 21 secs left, Pitt. beat WVU for the second year in a row which I think means Cincinnati wins the big east (Is that right?), Nebraska tries to imitate LSU and pays dearly for it, a Nebraska d-line man deflects a pass leading to another Nebraska d-line man intercepting it and taking it back for a touchdown, and Arizona St. scored 14 points off of turnovers, including one odd one where everybody thought the play was over, to take a 14-6 lead at half. Not to mention that Ole Miss trampled all over Mississippi St. Okay maybe it's not as big of a deal considering Mississippi State is the worst team in the SEC but really Ole Miss is a lot better than they used to be. They may even be in the mix for an SEC West title in the next 2 years and it's only a matter of time before they become a major obstacle for the whole SEC.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby oVo on Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:47 am

I really didn't expect much from A&M against Texas... as they just don't have the weapons to be a threat this year and even though the Longhorns want to say "Look at us, we've stated our case (to the pollsters) with a strong win on Thanksgiving." But the Aggies are just not a BCS boosting opponent to brag about beating big (something a 9-1 USC can relate to in recent weeks). Baylor has played well in the majority of their games and I still expect Tech to rebound from last weekend's debacle in Norman with a rout of the Bears. Which leaves Oklahoma State as the only (and best) threat to bust the Big 12's three-way tie in the South... and of course one last chance for Oklahoma to make a lasting impression on the polls.

The head to head games are moot if all three prevail: because there is no number
that can replace A, B or C to make this equation work: (45-35) - (39-33) - (66-28)
A > B
C > A
B > C
If A, B or C = ?

Personally (even though I love their style of football) I'd like to see fate deal the SEC a tough hand and set up the unprecidented rematch of Texas and Oklahoma. Sure that is a hugemongous stretch (are you listening Santa?) but it would be pretty damn cool . . . but I'll be ok with whatever the college football gods toss out there to bring this amazing season to a fitting climax.

btw... While the failed fake field goal is certainly an unusual highlight, Colorado sacked the Huskers' QB on 3rd down to make it 4th & 25 with 1:48 to play and Alex Henery kicked a 57 yard field goal to give Nebraska the lead... before Ndamukong Suh's interception iced the game with 55 seconds remaining.

and... that was a HUGE gamble by Arkansas on 4th & 1 with 30 seconds on the clock and no timeouts remaining to call a play... Instead of going for a fresh set of downs, Casey Dick steps back and lobs a perfect 24 yard pass to London Crawford who made a great catch to score that final TD and win it. It was definitely an awesome game.

Looking forward to tomorrow's BIG games.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby strike wolf on Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:49 am

oVo wrote:I really didn't expect much from A&M against Texas... as they just don't have the weapons to be a threat this year and even though the Longhorns want to say "Look at us, we've stated our case (to the pollsters) with a strong win on Thanksgiving." But the Aggies are just not a BCS boosting opponent to brag about beating big (something a 9-1 USC can relate to in recent weeks). Baylor has played well in the majority of their games and I still expect Tech to rebound from last weekend's debacle in Norman with a rout of the Bears. Which leaves Oklahoma State as the only (and best) threat to bust the Big 12's three-way tie in the South... and of course one last chance for Oklahoma to make a lasting impression on the polls.

The head to head games are moot if all three prevail: because there is no number
that can replace A, B or C to make this equation work: (45-35) - (39-33) - (66-28)
A > B
C > A
B > C
If A, B or C = ?

Personally (even though I love their style of football) I'd like to see fate deal the SEC a tough hand and set up the unprecidented rematch of Texas and Oklahoma. Sure that is a hugemongous stretch (are you listening Santa?) but it would be pretty damn cool . . . but I'll be ok with whatever the college football gods toss out there to bring this amazing season to a fitting climax.



There's three things I hate to see in the National Championship. They are:

1. OSU vs. any SEC team- we've seen this twice already in the national championship and I believe 9 times in bowl games and guess what the SEC dominates it 9-zilch, must we put the Buckeyes through any further humiliation?

2. USC vs. just about anyone- They are a good team and when they've gotten to the championship, they deserved it, but I like seeing them out of it as I hate it when they win period.

3. rematches-Sorry I don't really care how great your first game was this season. I don't want to see you guys go at it again. The only time I would even be remotely okay with a rematch would be a rematch of the Georgia-Florida game and even then I wouldn't be as interested as I normally would.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby oVo on Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:06 pm

Yeah... you're right about rematches, in fact
I'm hoping Oregon knocks off Oregon State so that USC can face Penn State in the Rose Bowl.

I suppose you can bash Ohio State all you want, but Alabama is the only SEC team with more national titles than the Buckeyes and win or lose, making it to the BCS title game three times in ten years is nothing to be ashamed of. Their double overtime win in 2002 versus Miami, who was a 2 TD favorite trying for back-to-back national titles, was as good as a championship game gets. Getting outplayed by Florida/LSU doesn't make them a bad team... much like Georgia this year getting trampled by Alabama/Florida... the Bulldogs are still a tough match up for anyone... shit happens.

The SEC has definitely been the dominant force in the 10 years of BCS Title games with a perfect 4-0 record and LSU being the only school to win 2... but that doesn't make all the runner ups chopped liver.
and that excludes the 13-0 Boise State that squeeked by Oklahoma too.

In modern times who's won the Mythic National Championships? the Big 12 has 18 (Oklahoma 7), the SEC has 16 (Alabama 7), the Big 10 has 15 (Ohio State 5), the Pac 10 has 9 (USC 7) and independent Notre Dame has the most national titles with 8.

In the history of college football Princeton is the school with the most titles at 28, followed by Yale with 27 and Notre Dame with 21 (there's a good trivia question for ya). After those three it's Alabama (17), Oklahoma (16), Michigan (16), USC (16) and Ohio State (15)...
for the SEC curious... LSU - 7, Tennessee - 7, Georgia - 5, Florida - 4, Auburn - 4, Arkansas - 2, Mississippi - 2 and Kentucky -1.

I guess the matchups I'd really like to see is Alabama/Texas, Florida/Oklahoma and Ohio State/Georgia...
yes, give the Dawgs a sure thing bowl game since OSU can't keep up with any SEC team.

edited to add...
ouch... Georgia Tech runs past the Dawgs.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby MonteKiffin on Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:01 pm

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Re: Football (real)

Postby oVo on Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:26 pm

The Buccaneers couldn't even sneak past a Romoless Cowboys...

meanwhile, Florida is rolling, Alabama and Auburn are having a typical smashmouth Iron Bowl,
while the Baylor Bears are giving Tech all they can handle, leading 28-14 in the 3rd Quarter.
Maybe they learned something watching OU whup up on the Red Raiders?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby strike wolf on Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:58 pm

oVo wrote:Yeah... you're right about rematches, in fact
I'm hoping Oregon knocks off Oregon State so that USC can face Penn State in the Rose Bowl.

I suppose you can bash Ohio State all you want


You're right I shouldn't bash them as they are a good team but history shows that they have been powerless to win against any SEC team and I'm tired of seeing them get matched up just to fall flat.

ovo wrote:But Alabama is the only SEC team with more national titles than the Buckeyes and win or lose, making it to the BCS title game three times in ten years is nothing to be ashamed of. Their double overtime win in 2002 versus Miami, who was a 2 TD favorite trying for back-to-back national titles, was as good as a championship game gets. Getting outplayed by Florida/LSU doesn't make them a bad team... much like Georgia this year getting trampled by Alabama/Florida... the Bulldogs are still a tough match up for anyone... shit happens.

The SEC has definitely been the dominant force in the 10 years of BCS Title games with a perfect 4-0 record and LSU being the only school to win 2... but that doesn't make all the runner ups chopped liver.
and that excludes the 13-0 Boise State that squeeked by Oklahoma too.

In modern times who's won the Mythic National Championships? the Big 12 has 18 (Oklahoma 7), the SEC has 16 (Alabama 7), the Big 10 has 15 (Ohio State 5), the Pac 10 has 9 (USC 7) and independent Notre Dame has the most national titles with 8.
In the history of college football Princeton is the school with the most titles at 28, followed by Yale with 27 and Notre Dame with 21 (there's a good trivia question for ya). After those three it's Alabama (17), Oklahoma (16), Michigan (16), USC (16) and Ohio State (15)...
for the SEC curious... LSU - 7, Tennessee - 7, Georgia - 5, Florida - 4, Auburn - 4, Arkansas - 2, Mississippi - 2 and Kentucky -1.

I guess the matchups I'd really like to see is Alabama/Texas, Florida/Oklahoma and Ohio State/Georgia...
yes, give the Dawgs a sure thing bowl game since OSU can't keep up with any SEC team.

edited to add...
ouch... Georgia Tech runs past the Dawgs.


I actually kind of saw Georgia Tech upsetting Georgia. I watched an interview of the Georgia players and they seemed extremely overconfident (one even went as far as to say that they WOULD be 10-2). Also, Georgia may have the worst option defense in the country. It's pathetic to see this problem in all of Georgia's last four games and not once see them correct or at least improve on this problem. Also it's pathetic enough letting a team outscore you 33-14 in the second half, let alone let them do it all on the ground. I believe Tech completed one pass for 19 yards during the whole game and the rest including all their second half touchdown spree were running plays.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby oVo on Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:35 pm

Yup... Georgia Tech had just 1 completion (for 19 yards) in 6 attempts and 1 interception. That long 4th Quarter option down the right sideline should have never gone 50+ yards for a touchdown, the defense was there and nobody made the play. The Rambling Wreck was definitely rumbling today... I really thought Stafford was in the zone early and the Bulldogs would run away with it.

Texas Tech has now overcome 2 turnovers and the loss of Crabtree to take a TD lead with 6 mins left
and Alabama/Florida is shaping up to be the game of the year, as both are dominant today.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby strike wolf on Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:40 pm

oVo wrote:Yup... Georgia Tech had just 1 completion (for 19 yards) in 6 attempts and 1 interception. That long 4th Quarter option down the right sideline should have never gone 50+ yards for a touchdown, the defense was there and nobody made the play. The Rambling Wreck was definitely rumbling today... I really thought Stafford was in the zone early and the Bulldogs would run away with it.


I actually thought that Stafford was a bit inconsistent and really it seemed like Massaquoi was going to be the one who broke the game open. Also there were at least two options that should have never gotten even a first down. However Georgia just seems to be lost when it comes to defending against it.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby MonteKiffin on Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:22 am

oVo wrote:The Buccaneers couldn't even sneak past a Romoless Cowboys...
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:roll: x infinity.

They've got the second best record in the NFC.. one bad game doesn't define a season. Oh and they're at the top of one of the few divisions without a losing record.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby pimpdave on Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:22 am

Plaxico Burress did what now?

(keep the safety ON, moron)
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Re: Football (real)

Postby strike wolf on Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:41 pm

The Oklahoma game last night was reasonably entertaining. It looked like OKST was going to stick with them the whole game and maybe even leave with a last minute victory for a while. Though in the end, I guess Oklahoma was able to pull away.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby strike wolf on Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:43 pm

What do you guys think about Tennessee hiring Kiffin? Also I heard somewhere that his father is most likely going to join him there.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby oVo on Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:16 pm

There was a lot less defense on view than I anticipated, but the tight game was expected as those two teams have history of close finishes. Now the BCS poll is out and I'm not too surprised that it's Oklahoma with the chance to control their own destiny and face the SEC Champ. Texas will have to root for Mizzou... and hope for the best. Meanwhile the outcomes of other games has tossed out all the bowl predictions from the sportscasting "experts." But hey... they're all great teams and there's certainly no shortage of excellent 10-1 clubs that should make for some very entertaining matchups from here on out.

I wish Kiffin luck in righting the ship at Tennessee and hope he can get them back on track. If Fulmer had remained in charge I believe they would have been back to their winning ways soon anyways. He did good things with that program and I had no doubts that he could do it again. After all UT won a National Championship ten years ago and there are only a handfull of coaches that can even make that claim.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby HapSmo19 on Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:26 pm

pimpdave wrote:Plaxico Burress did what now?

(keep the safety ON, moron)


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Re: Football (real)

Postby strike wolf on Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:15 pm

oVo wrote:There was a lot less defense on view than I anticipated, but the tight game was expected as those two teams have history of close finishes. Now the BCS poll is out and I'm not too surprised that it's Oklahoma with the chance to control their own destiny and face the SEC Champ. Texas will have to root for Mizzou... and hope for the best. Meanwhile the outcomes of other games has tossed out all the bowl predictions from the sportscasting "experts." But hey... they're all great teams and there's certainly no shortage of excellent 10-1 clubs that should make for some very entertaining matchups from here on out.

I wish Kiffin luck in righting the ship at Tennessee and hope he can get them back on track. If Fulmer had remained in charge I believe they would have been back to their winning ways soon anyways. He did good things with that program and I had no doubts that he could do it again. After all UT won a National Championship ten years ago and there are only a handfull of coaches that can even make that claim.



As a Georgia fan, I hope he falls flat, but as an SEC fan I hope he does well (just not against Georgia). It's a complicated emotion though in the end I guess I would rather have him be reasonably successful than not.
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Re: Football (real)

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Re: Football (real)

Postby oVo on Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:58 pm

Local news is bitchin' about the Big 12 South using the BCS Rankings as the deciding factor to break the three way tie... that it isn't fair and full of human error. ESPN claims that the SEC's method of using that same poll to break ties in their conference is better... thing is... regardless of how it get's used, someone is gonna feel screwed.

Just like Texas ignoring Texas Tech in all of their scenarios, the sports pundits ALL ignore the simple fact that it is BCS Ranking that determines all teams' final positions and where they go Bowling... a bunch of excellent one loss (and unbeaten) teams will not get an invite to the big dance based on the opinions expressed in a final poll. Oklahoma's christmas came early this year.

The Longhorns led the Red Raiders for a whopping minute and twentysome seconds in that game and let a perfect opportunity to preserve the win literally slip right through their fingers. So it can be said, the Big 12 South was decided on the field.

I think Georgia Tech squished the life out my OSU vs UGA bowl matchup.


A gutsy performance last weekend... Graham Harrell underwent four hours of surgery Sunday on the pinkie and ring fingers on his left hand, with 17 pins and two plates inserted in his hand to heal nine separate breaks. The Texas Tech quarterback was X-rayed at halftime, and the medical staff told him he was done for the day. Harrell responded, "Tape my hand up. I'm going out." and he finished the game with black tape around the two fingers. Despite the extent of the injury, suffered in the second quarter, Harrell threw for 309 yards and two touchdowns, leading the Red Raiders back from a two-touchdown deficit in the second half.
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