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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:38 pm

reuters wrote:Analysts say the only way to avert the scenario is to win people's hearts and minds by disarming regional militias, providing strong guarantees of security, and moving tribal disputes into a legal sphere.


lololol.

Hey, Libyans, remember how you guys all had guns, local courts, and about 10 days decentralized of forms of government? Well, we're getting impatient, so give your guns to the NTC, and we'll accept only preferred groups into the National Armed Forces and police. There's no need for local knowledge in solving these problems! Our top-down approach of consolidating the state's force while beating down certain unarmed groups will surely succeed! It would make Gaddafi proud to see us using the same tactics.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:42 pm

The NTC isn't even legitimate. They've been hand-picked by NATO (US) with the $30bn in assets.


Gather 10,000 people in one room, tell them that their actions will only be held accountable among their own local "court" systems (legal systems outside the room don't apply), give almost everyone a gun, and then give 5 people in there $30 billion dollars. I wonder what'll happen!
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:17 pm

LOL, a few months ago everyone was laughing - "there is no Al Qaeda in Libya ... Col. Qaddafi is just trying to cause a big distraction when he says the Libyan Armed People are battling Al-Qaeda, not peaceful protestors ..."

In this yesterday-dated NY Times photo about the implementation of Sharia law on Libyan women, Al-Qaeda flags outnumber NTC flags 4-1 (and the NY Times doesn't even mention it ... LMAO ... stupid western reporters)

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The most precious part is that one of the Qaeda flags is being waved by a dude in a UNICEF shirt.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:51 pm

FUN FACT: In 1998, Libya was the first nation in the world to issue an arrest warrant for Osama Bin Laden, a full six months before the United States and three years before 9/11.

More info on the Al-Qaeda takeover of Benghazi and the new Al-Qaeda controlled state America's pliant dupe, Canada, has established in North Africa ... ready to provoke an excuse for a land invasion / oil seizure:

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/al-qaeda ... g-in-libya

OLD LIBYA (before NATO bombed it into the stone age):
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:35 pm

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Pirlo - please translate in the bottom right of the screen. :P
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby GreecePwns on Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:58 pm

Barack Obama
The President (Father?) of Libya?

(Just finished learning the alphabet and a few basic words, so it's probably wrong).
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:14 am

GreecePwns wrote:Barack Obama
The President (Father?) of Libya?

(Just finished learning the alphabet and a few basic words, so it's probably wrong).


You got it, IIRC!

Barack Obama - President of Libya

(thanks to Al-Jazeera for cutting through the spin)
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:27 am

Well, at least we can be proud that we're Americans, amirite?
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:20 pm

Major news in the battle against Al-Qaeda and Canada!

1. Major attacks in Tripoli in Bellahhar and Alhani and ain zara and Bu saleem neighborhoods between the Armed People (Libyan Army) and Royal Qatari Army troops and French legionnaires. These may be actions by the newly formed Amazonas battalions of all-women commandos.

2. GREEN FIST RESIST, the unified command of the Libyan Resistance, today offered a 72 hour ultimatum for all NTC forces to unconditionally surrender throughout Libya. The ultimatum countdown begins with the NATO withdrawal at 23:59:59 tonight. Foreign fighters operating in the Great Libyan Socialist Arab Jamahiryah (e.g. Qatari Royal Army, Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, Blackwater mercs, etc.) and Al-Qaeda associates will not be privilege to the amnesty.

Also, literally hundreds of tribute videos to The Lion of All-Africa on YouTube right now, but this is one of my FAVs I just found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfEltxuZ ... re=related
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:48 pm

At this hour Benghazi has come under an attack by units of the Masoud Faraj Brigade of the Armed People (Libyan Army). Mechanized troops are moving on the outskirts of the Al-Qaeda/NATO held city in a shock attack that caught the Al-Qaeda/NATO forces off-guard.

A simultaneous probing offensive was launched against Tripoli by the 32nd Reinforced Brigade under the command of Gen. Khamis Qaddafi.

The Supreme Council of the Touareg People of Libya, Niger, Algeria, Sahara and Mali today released this communique pledging tribal fighters from all across North Africa to the legal head of government of Libya, Dr. Saif al-Islam Qaddafi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 7KbJmRq7Qo.

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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:49 pm

Sauce...
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:08 pm

A petition to the head of the Occupation Government in Libya, Barack Obama, has just been released calling on him to stop trying to execute Saif al-Islam Qaddafi without a trial like he executes U.S. citizens. Sarkozy and Cameron are cc:'ed on the letter. Canada, which was ordered by the US to assume the fanciful title of "head of the operation" to make it diplomatically easier, was ignored in the petition as the Libyan state deals in Real Politik, not fairytale imagination and irrelevant actors.

http://www.petitions24.net/halte_a_la_t ... am_kaddafi

Mr. Obama:

Under the pretense of protecting civilian lives in Libya, and on the strength of UN Resolution 1973, you have wrought havoc in this country. To achieve this goal, you have just executed, in front of the whole planet, Mouammar Kadhafi, his son Mouatassim and his Defense Minister. In the preceding weeks, you have also killed, during your savage air raids, two other sons of the Libyan leader's and three of his grandchildren, as well as members of his family. We reiterate our firm opposition to the extrajudicial executions that are, increasingly, being substituted for the rule of law in Libya.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:12 pm

Democracy and Freedom Triumph! New Ruler of Libya Announced!

Abdurrahim Khaled Abdulhafiz El-Keib, who lived in the United States from 1979 to 2011, was an advisor to the U.S. Department of Energy and Chairman of the Engineering Faculty at the University of Alabama until his appointment today as Supreme Ruler of Libya by the "National Transitional Council", the members of which were not elected by anyone but themselves (with input from the Main Operations Directorate of the Central Intelligence Agency, most likely).

I guess I've been proved to have been wrong :o -AGAIN!- :o these last few months!

Democracy! Freedom!

Congrats General Tao and Johnny Rockets! Your sacrifices decision to sacrifice the Libyan people paid off! Every nation in the world dreams of having their incumbent government deposed and replaced by a low-level bureaucrat from the U.S. Department of Energy. Canada helped Marathon Oil Libya achieve that radical, revolutionary goal.

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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:40 pm

"Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!"


I loved Obama's bit defending his "humanitarian interventionist" policy.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:00 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:I loved Obama's bit defending his "humanitarian interventionist" policy.


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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby Qwert on Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:47 am

well every smart person,expect these development. Do you think that US will move hes arse for some no oil poor countries?
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:24 pm

LOL, the U.S. admits all the celebrated "French warplanes" that - a few months ago - in an "historic first" were "taking the lead" in bombing the bejeezus out of Libya were ... BEING FLOWN BY AMERICAN PILOTS! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.defense.gov//news/newsarticle.aspx?id=65965

Next we're going to find out they weren't just American pilots, they were actually American planes, too - they just tied a baguette to the rudder before they took off.

Most likely it was the same with Canada, Britain, etc. It's common knowledge these countries don't actually have military forces maintained at a state-of-repair that they can deploy beyond their own borders, or for longer than a few days at a time.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby Johnny Rockets on Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:18 am

saxitoxin wrote:....Most likely it was the same with Canada, Britain, etc. It's common knowledge these countries don't actually have military forces maintained at a state-of-repair that they can deploy beyond their own borders, or for longer than a few days at a time.



Hey, are our hands bloody here, or not?

You can't have your cake and eat it too, my delusional little propagandist!


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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:02 pm

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saxitoxin wrote:....Most likely it was the same with Canada, Britain, etc. It's common knowledge these countries don't actually have military forces maintained at a state-of-repair that they can deploy beyond their own borders, or for longer than a few days at a time.



Hey, are our hands bloody here, or not?

You can't have your cake and eat it too, my delusional little propagandist!


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If you supported your country's military intervention in Libya, then yes, your hands are bloody.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:08 pm

In addition to the forces present in Libya, there's great news as a new people's movement has formed in Niger to evict the Canadian/Exxon-backed NTC. From Counterpunch (of course I have said this before here, but apparently no one believes me until a few weeks later when a website publishes the story):

Libya’s Liberation Front Organizing in the Sahel

“Sahel” in Arabic means “coast” or “shoreline”. Unless one was present 5000 years ago when, according to anthropologists, our planets first cultivation of crops began in this then lush, but now semiarid region where temperatures reach 125 degrees F, and only camels and an assortment of creatures can sniff out water sources, it seems an odd geographical name place for this up-to-450 miles wide swatch of baked sand that runs from the Atlantic Ocean to the Red Sea.

Yet, when standing along its edge, the Sahel does have the appearance of a sort of dividing shoreline between the endless sands of the Sahara and the savannah grasses to the south. Parts of Mali, Algeria, Niger, Chad, and Sudan, all along the Libyan border fall within this supposed no man’s land.

Today the Sahel is providing protection, weapons gathering and storage facilities, sites for training camps, and hideouts as well as a generally formidable base for those working to organize the growing Libyan Liberation Front (LLF). The aim of the LLF is to liberate Libya from what it considers NATO-installed colonial puppets. The Sahel region is only one of multiple locations which are becoming active as the Libyan counter revolution, led by members of the Gadahfi and Wafalla tribes, make preparations for the next phase of resistance.

When I entered an office conference room in Niger recently to meet with some recent evacuees from Libya who I was advised were preparing to launch a “people’s struggle employing the Maoist tactic of 1000 cuts” against the current group claiming to represent Libya,” two facts struck me.

One was how many were present and did not appear to be scruffy, intensely zealous or desperate but who were obviously rested, calm, organized and methodical in their demeanor.

My colleague, a member of the Gadhafi tribe from Sirte explained “More than 800 organizers have arrived from Libya just to Niger and more come every day”. An officer in uniform added, “It is not like your western media presents the situation, of desperate Gadhafi loyalists frantically handing out bundles of cash and gold bars to buy their safety from the NATO death squads now swarming around the northern areas of our motherland. Our brothers have controlled the borderless routes in this region for thousands of years and they know how not to be detected even by NATO satellites and drones.”

The other subject I thought about as I sat in an initial meeting was what a difference three decades can make. As I sat there I recalled my visit with former Fatah youth leader Salah Tamari, who did good work at the Israeli prison camp at Ansar, south Lebanon during the 1982 aggression, as the elected negotiator for his fellow inmates. Tamari insisted on joining some of them at a new PLO base at Tabessa, Algeria. This was shortly after the PLO leadership, wrongly in my judgment, agreed to evacuate Lebanon in August of 1982 rather than wage a Stalingrad defense (admittedly minus the nonexistent expected Red Army) and the PLO leadership apparently credited Reagan administration promises of “ an American guaranteed Palestinian state within a year. You can take that to the bank” in the words of US envoy Philip Habib. Seemingly ever trustful of Ronald Reagan for some reason, PLO leader Arafat kept Habib’s written promise in his shirt pocket to show doubters, including his Deputy, Khalil al Wazir (Abu Jihad) and the womenfolk among others in Shatila Camp who had some grave misgivings about their protectors leaving them. At Tabessa, somewhere in the vast Algerian desert, the formerly proud PLO defenders were essentially idle and caged inside their camp and apart from some physical training sessions appeared to spend their days drinking coffee and smoking and worrying about their loved ones in Lebanon as news of the September 1982 Israeli-organized massacre at Sabra-Shatila fell on Tabessa Camp like a huge bomb and many fighters rejected Tamari’s orders and left for Shatila.

This is not the case with Libyan evacuees in Niger. They have the latest model satellite phones, laptops and better equipment than most of the rich news outlets that showed up with at Tripoli’s media hotels over the past nine months. This observer’s question, “how did you all get here and where did you secure all this new electronic equipment so fast?” was answered with a mute smile and wink from a hijabed young lady who I last saw in August handing out press releases at Tripoli’s Rixos Hotel for Libyan spokesman Dr. Musa Ibrahim late last august. On that particular day, Musa was telling the media as he stood next to Deputy Foreign Minister Khalid Kaim, a friend to many Americans and human rights activists, that Tripoli would not fall to NATO rebels and “we have 6,500 well trained soldiers who are waiting for them.” As it turned out, the commander of the 6,500 was owned by NATO and he instructed his men not to oppose the entering rebel forces. Tripoli fell the next day and the day after Khalid was arrested and is still inside one of dozens of rebel jails petitioning his unresponsive captors for family visits while an international, American organized, legal team is negotiating to visit him.

The LLF has military and political projects in the works. One of the latter is to compete for every vote in next summer’s promised election. One staffer I met with has the job of studying the elections in Tunisia, Egypt and elsewhere in the region for possible applications to Libya.

Another LLF committee is putting together a Nationalist campaign message plus specific campaign planks for their candidates to run on and putting together lists of recommendations of specific candidates. Nothing is firmly decided yet, but one Libyan professor told me “for sure Women’s rights will be a major plank. Women are horrified by NTC Chairman Jalil said while seeking support from Al Qaeda supporters who threaten to control Libya, about polygamy being the future in Libya and the fact that women will now longer be given the home when divorced. Libya has been very progressive with women’s rights as with Palestinian rights.” Aisha Gadhafi, the only daughter of Muammar who is now living next door in Algeria with family members including her two-month old baby, was a major force behind the 2010 enactment by the Peoples Congresses of more rights for women. She has been asked to write a pamphlet on the need to retain women’s rights which will be distributed if the 2012 elections actually materialize.

While their country lies in substantial NATO bombed ruins, the pro-Gadhafi LLF has some major pluses on its side. One are the tribes who during last summer were starting to stand up against NATO just as Tripoli fell before they launched their efforts which included a new Constitution. The LLF believes the tribes can be crucial in getting out the vote.

Perhaps even a more powerful arrow in the LLF’s quiver as it launches its counter revolution are the 35 years of political experience by the hundreds of Libyan People’s Committees long established in every village in Libya along with the Secretariats of the People’s Conferences. While currently inactive (outlawed by NATO–truth be told) they are quickly regrouping. Sometimes the subjects of ridicule by some self-styled Libya “experts,” the People’s Congresses, based on the Green book series written by Gadhafi, are actually quite democratic and a study of their work makes clear that they have increasingly functioned not as mere rubber stamps for ideas that floated from over the walls of Bab al Azziza barracks. A secretary general of one of the Congresses, now working in Niger, repeated what one western delegation was told during a late June three hour briefing at the Tripoli HQ of the national PC Secretariat. Participants were shown attendance and voting records as well of each item voted on, for the past decade and the minutes of the most recent People’s Congress debates. They illustrate the similarities between the People’s Congresses and New England Town Meeting in terms of the local population making decisions that affect their community and an open agenda where complaints and new proposals can be made and discussed. This observer particularly enjoyed his 4 years term representing Ward 2A in the Brookline, Massachusetts Town Meeting while in college in Boston, sometimes sitting next my neighbors Kitty and Michael Dukakis. While we both won a seat in the election, I received 42 votes more than Mike but he rose politically while it could be said that I sank, following my joining Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), the ACLU and the Black Panthers all in one semester as an undergraduate Boston University, following an inspiring meeting with Professor Noam Chomsky and Professor Howard Zinn in Chomsky’s office at MIT. The Town Meeting debates were interesting and productive and “Mustafa”, the National Secretary of the Libyan People’s Congress, who studied at George Washington University in WDC and wrote a graduate thesis on New England Town Meetings, claimed his country patterned their People’s Congresses on them. Unfortunately, “Mustafa”is also now incarcerated by the NTC, according to mutual friends.

Who LLF candidates will be if an election is actually held is unknown but some are suggesting that Dr.Abu Zeid Dorda, now recovering from his “suicide attempt” (the former Libyan UN Ambassador was thrown out of a second floor window during interrogations last month by NATO agents but he survived in front of witnesses so is now recovering in prison medical ward).

Contrary to media stories, Saif al Islam is not about to surrender to the International Criminal Court and, like Musa Ibrahim, is well. Both are being urged to lay low for now, rest, and try to heal a bit from NATO’s killing of family members and many close friends.

Many legal and political analysts think the ICC will not proceed with any trials relating to Libya for reasons of the ICC convoluted rules and structure and uncertainly of securing convictions of the “right” suspects. Whatever happens on this subject, if a case goes forward, researchers are preparing to fill the ICC courtroom with documentation of NATO crimes during its 9 month, 23,000 sorties and 10,000 bombing attacks on the five million population country.

Some International Criminal Court observers are encouraged by the ICC Prosecutor’s office pledge this week and as reported by the BCC: “to investigate and prosecute any crimes committed both by rebel and pro-Gadhafi forces including any committed by NATO.”

As one victim of NATO crimes, who on June 20, 1911 lost four of his family members including three infant children, as five NATO American MK-83 bombs were dropped and two missiles fired on the family compound in a failed assassination attempt against his father, a former aide to Colonel Gadhafi, wrote this observer yesterday from his secret sanctuary, “This is good news if it is true.”.

As NATO moves its focus and drones to the Seral, it is possible that its nine months of carnage against this country and people will not in the end achieve its goals.

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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:18 pm

It now turns out no less than 5,000 Qatari ground troops (from Qatar's absolute monarchy) were fighting to overthrow the Libyan government.

http://www.voltairenet.org/a171842

5,000 Qatari troops
2,000 Muslim Brotherhood fighters from Egypt
1,000 imprisoned Al-Qaeda fighters released in the January jail break from Benghazi Central Prison
2,000 Libyan troops from 3 battalions whose commanders were paid $1.5 million/each by CIA
+ unknown numbers of UK, French and American special forces "advisors" and "trainers"
+ 10,000 NATO air and cruise missile strikes

One can see how a "revolution" can succeed without any involvement of the local population ... just Big Oil (e.g. Exoon) and Big Dupes (e.g. Canada).
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby nietzsche on Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:34 pm

qwert wrote:well every smart person,expect these development. Do you think that US will move hes arse for some no oil poor countries?
Every country who are poor of oil, have land who are not good for crops, or dont have other waluable natural resources,its not importan to US. Oil countries who are not alove interference in hes oil politic its in danger to be humanitarian bombarded,.


Serbians' opinions on America are always priceless. You can detect a smart but cynic and pessimist tone right away. Belgrad still has ruins downtown. Serbians are not ok with the place they occupy in the current ladder of power. Nor are many other smart peoples that Americans like to treat like retards on monkeys.

If the US didn't have a hold on the latest war technology its position would be gone long time ago. Even America's friends are ready to turn sides. And with the opening of access to information everywhere thanks to, alas an US Army invention, soon the field is gonna level a bit.

They know the game and don't play with children's tales, they have the gut for the truth and dare to say it. Its silly that so many Americans still buy the crap they are spoonfed by the media and their politicians.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:40 am

saxitoxin wrote:It now turns out no less than 5,000 Qatari ground troops (from Qatar's absolute monarchy) were fighting to overthrow the Libyan government.

http://www.voltairenet.org/a171842

5,000 Qatari troops
2,000 Muslim Brotherhood fighters from Egypt
1,000 imprisoned Al-Qaeda fighters released in the January jail break from Benghazi Central Prison
2,000 Libyan troops from 3 battalions whose commanders were paid $1.5 million/each by CIA
+ unknown numbers of UK, French and American special forces "advisors" and "trainers"
+ 10,000 NATO air and cruise missile strikes

One can see how a "revolution" can succeed without any involvement of the local population ... just Big Oil (e.g. Exoon) and Big Dupes (e.g. Canada).


The Mirror publishes photos of the British mercenaries who were hired to "make a revolution" in Libya -
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -23170485/
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:29 am

saxitoxin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:It now turns out no less than 5,000 Qatari ground troops (from Qatar's absolute monarchy) were fighting to overthrow the Libyan government.

http://www.voltairenet.org/a171842

5,000 Qatari troops
2,000 Muslim Brotherhood fighters from Egypt
1,000 imprisoned Al-Qaeda fighters released in the January jail break from Benghazi Central Prison
2,000 Libyan troops from 3 battalions whose commanders were paid $1.5 million/each by CIA
+ unknown numbers of UK, French and American special forces "advisors" and "trainers"
+ 10,000 NATO air and cruise missile strikes

One can see how a "revolution" can succeed without any involvement of the local population ... just Big Oil (e.g. Exoon) and Big Dupes (e.g. Canada).


The Mirror publishes photos of the British mercenaries who were hired to "make a revolution" in Libya -
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -23170485/


What exactly bothers you about this?

Is it the fact that "Western" mercenaries are training local rebels? Or is it the involvement of Western countries which provide the funds to the mercenaries to overthrow Qaddafi and Co.?

As far as mercenaries go, for me, I'm not really concerned about it--assuming that their services aren't paid by my country's government. The biggest problem is the lack of legal accountability for mishaps from the mercenaries, but that's about the extent of my concerns.
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Re: US Military Action in Libya?

Postby saxitoxin on Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:50 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:It now turns out no less than 5,000 Qatari ground troops (from Qatar's absolute monarchy) were fighting to overthrow the Libyan government.

http://www.voltairenet.org/a171842

5,000 Qatari troops
2,000 Muslim Brotherhood fighters from Egypt
1,000 imprisoned Al-Qaeda fighters released in the January jail break from Benghazi Central Prison
2,000 Libyan troops from 3 battalions whose commanders were paid $1.5 million/each by CIA
+ unknown numbers of UK, French and American special forces "advisors" and "trainers"
+ 10,000 NATO air and cruise missile strikes

One can see how a "revolution" can succeed without any involvement of the local population ... just Big Oil (e.g. Exoon) and Big Dupes (e.g. Canada).


The Mirror publishes photos of the British mercenaries who were hired to "make a revolution" in Libya -
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -23170485/


What exactly bothers you about this?

Is it the fact that "Western" mercenaries are training local rebels? Or is it the involvement of Western countries which provide the funds to the mercenaries to overthrow Qaddafi and Co.?


What "local rebels"? In light of the current cascade of evidence, it's unclear if there were any rebels at all - just a thrown-together army of Qatari troops, Egyptian radicals, escaped prison inmates and NATO mercs.

When Germany invaded Norway there were a handful of Norwegians who assisted the Wehrmacht. No one calls that the "Norwegian Revolution."

This wasn't a revolution, it was a foreign invasion assisted by a handful of local collaborators who were paid millions of dollars for their loyalty.
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