Bizarro World Mafia (Day 8) Game over, Mafia win!

[Aimless]

There were 19 players to start the game. That means the game probably started with 4 or 5 scum.

Possibilities -

1. auto, mandy, and jnd are all scum today.
2. auto and jnd are scum, mandy is telling the truth. The only way this could work is if jnd is the godfather.
3. auto and mandy are scum, auto named jnd as scum in an attempt to throw suspicion on a pro-town player. Seems likely, although it's odd that fellow scummate mandy would then clear jnd and screw up auto's story.
4. auto is the only scum, and mandy fell for auto's line hard. Mmmm. This one is a little far-fetched; mandy is a better player than this, and knows not to trust confirmed scum.

Possibility 1 seems most likely, but I'm unsure. This all looks like a play by scum to confuse us. Actually, it is certainly a play by scum to confuse us.

[Aimless]

That's what I said. I'll unvote you 'till jnd posts, if you unvote auto.

Err.. I did unvote auto. Immediately after you posted that you were investigating. Read much?

[mandalorian2298]

I call BULLSHIT!

AK isn't online right now. There's no way you got results so fast.

AUTO is a MOD.

And that gives him magic powers to send messages not logged in?

He is allways on site, you desperate, scummy person.

Nice try.

But you slipped up.

I can't decide whether to vote for auto or you.

Well, I hope that you guys are as good in lynching as you are in Night-killing.

[autoload]

There were 19 players to start the game. That means the game probably started with 4 or 5 scum.

Possibilities -

1. auto, mandy, and jnd are all scum today.
2.auto and jnd are scum, mandy is telling the truth. The only way this could work is if jnd is the godfather.
3. auto and mandy are scum, auto named jnd as scum in an attempt to throw suspicion on a pro-town player. Seems likely, although it's odd that fellow scummate mandy would then clear jnd and screw up auto's story.
4. auto is the only scum, and mandy fell for auto's line hard. Mmmm. This one is a little far-fetched; mandy is a better player than this, and knows not to trust confirmed scum.

Possibility 1 seems most likely, but I'm unsure. This all looks like a play by scum to confuse us. Actually, it is certainly a play by scum to confuse us.

The above is Bullshit because I was targeted for Vig and not killed. If anything I would be the Godfather because after the way Day ended yesterday I HIGHLY doubt someone would waste a protection on me.

Keep talking Aimless, we got you. When jnd94 logs in he will confirm my story unless he is the true bad guy in which case I won't care because you guys will kill him next anyways.

[Syzygy]

Mandy and auto are obviously working together. I'm certain they are both mafia. Jnd probably is too.

My vote stays.

[Aimless]

Yeah. No point in dithering, they are both obviously scum.

Vote: autoload

[autoload]

Wow, you guys really waited a long time for jnd to post.

If I get lynched today I want the remaining scum to try and Lynch Mando. If he dies he will most likely turn up town unless by some fluke he becomes mafia. If Mandy dies, we know that Aimless is the true Mafia hiding behind the scenes. I know Mandy is not mafia now because I got no notice of him joining me.

Trust me guys, kill Aimless and we win the game.

[autoload]

I meant Night kill Mando in my last post.

[Aimless]

Hmmm. While it's still day, and we can talk, I'd like to theorize regarding the kills.

It seems strange that we had a no-kill last night. There are obviously still two killing roles around, and yet the SK is dead, which means the odds are that we have a vig around. Unless the vig simply missed his night action (or, for some reason chose not to kill), then he probably tried to kill auto.

So, either the scum still have some sort of protective role (can't be a doc, Narc was the doc, and I've never heard of scum with a backup doc), auto is godfather, or our vig failed to shoot.

I'm open to other possibilities - one shot vig? Inventor / jack-of-all-trades? Two SK's? (Seems unlikely.)

Anyone else have any guesses? If auto is the godfather, we'll know tonight. Otherwise, this is worth exploring. My gut tells me it's probably nothing more complicated than a vig with limited shots, but I'm not sure.

[mandalorian2298]

There were 19 players to start the game. That means the game probably started with 4 or 5 scum.

Possibilities -

1. auto, mandy, and jnd are all scum today.
2. auto and jnd are scum, mandy is telling the truth. The only way this could work is if jnd is the godfather.
3. auto and mandy are scum, auto named jnd as scum in an attempt to throw suspicion on a pro-town player. Seems likely, although it's odd that fellow scummate mandy would then clear jnd and screw up auto's story.
4. auto is the only scum, and mandy fell for auto's line hard. Mmmm. This one is a little far-fetched; mandy is a better player than this, and knows not to trust confirmed scum.

Possibility 1 seems most likely, but I'm unsure. This all looks like a play by scum to confuse us. Actually, it is certainly a play by scum to confuse us.

As you pointed out, 3. is totally ilogical since I would be puting auto's life in the hands of the player who knows that he is lying.
I know that possibility 1., isn't possible, since I am town.
2. would be totally idiotic from auto's perspective.
As for possibility 4., my ego is unfortunatly not big enough for you to get of the hook by flattering me. But, thanks.

That's what I said. I'll unvote you 'till jnd posts, if you unvote auto.

Err.. I did unvote auto. Immediately after you posted that you were investigating. Read much?

Sorry, I havent seen your unvote.
unvote
I suggest that you other Auto-voters do the same (at least the ones who are townies).

JND, we are waiting for your input.

[Syzygy]

Hmmm. While it's still day, and we can talk, I'd like to theorize regarding the kills.

It seems strange that we had a no-kill last night. There are obviously still two killing roles around, and yet the SK is dead, which means the odds are that we have a vig around. Unless the vig simply missed his night action (or, for some reason chose not to kill), then he probably tried to kill auto.

So, either the scum still have some sort of protective role (can't be a doc, Narc was the doc, and I've never heard of scum with a backup doc), auto is godfather, or our vig failed to shoot.

I'm open to other possibilities - one shot vig? Inventor / jack-of-all-trades? Two SK's? (Seems unlikely.)

Anyone else have any guesses? If auto is the godfather, we'll know tonight. Otherwise, this is worth exploring. My gut tells me it's probably nothing more complicated than a vig with limited shots, but I'm not sure.

I already claimed vig.

I tried to kill auto last night.

Nothing happened. So either:
1. I was roleblocked
2. He is Godfather
3. A doc protected him.

BUT with mandy being caught out on that lie, both of them are looking very scummy.

[mandalorian2298]

Yeah. No point in dithering, they are both obviously scum.

Vote: autoload

vote Aimless for being a Goodfather

[I GOT SERVED]

The case against auto is intriguing, as is the case against jnd. I don't think anything is definitive yet, so I'll just point a few fos's.

FOS: jnd, auto

[Syzygy]

Yeah. No point in dithering, they are both obviously scum.

Vote: autoload

vote Aimless for being a Goodfather

Wah?

[AK_iceman]

Vote Count

• [2] Aimless -- (autoload, mandalorian2298)
• [3] autoload -- (for dummies, Syzygy, Aimless)
  
• [5] Not Voting, Everyone Else

6 Total Votes are needed for a Lynch or No Lynch

Day Deadline: 4 May 2007 6:13 PM Alaska Time, GMT -8.

[mandalorian2298]

Hmmm. While it's still day, and we can talk, I'd like to theorize regarding the kills.

It seems strange that we had a no-kill last night. There are obviously still two killing roles around, and yet the SK is dead, which means the odds are that we have a vig around. Unless the vig simply missed his night action (or, for some reason chose not to kill), then he probably tried to kill auto.

So, either the scum still have some sort of protective role (can't be a doc, Narc was the doc, and I've never heard of scum with a backup doc), auto is godfather, or our vig failed to shoot.

I'm open to other possibilities - one shot vig? Inventor / jack-of-all-trades? Two SK's? (Seems unlikely.)

Anyone else have any guesses? If auto is the godfather, we'll know tonight. Otherwise, this is worth exploring. My gut tells me it's probably nothing more complicated than a vig with limited shots, but I'm not sure.

I already claimed vig.

I tried to kill auto last night.

Nothing happened. So either:
1. I was roleblocked
2. He is Godfather
3. A doc protected him.

BUT with mandy being caught out on that lie, both of them are looking very scummy.

You were maybe a vig. But there was a roles rotation, so it means very little. If you are townie, unvote Auto and wait for JND.

[Aimless]

I already claimed vig.

I tried to kill auto last night.

Nothing happened. So either:
1. I was roleblocked
2. He is Godfather
3. A doc protected him.

BUT with mandy being caught out on that lie, both of them are looking very scummy.

Bah. I read that, and for some reason it still failed to register.

So... why would you be roleblocked? You generally slip under the radar in most games. That only leaves auto being Godfather, since we lynched the scum-doc last night. (And if a pro-town doc protected him... why on Earth would you protect confirmed scum? Oh, wait, we aren't on Earth, sorry...)

[mandalorian2298]

And I have been cought in no lie!! PM AK and ask him something, if you don't believe me.

[Syzygy]

Hmmm. While it's still day, and we can talk, I'd like to theorize regarding the kills.

It seems strange that we had a no-kill last night. There are obviously still two killing roles around, and yet the SK is dead, which means the odds are that we have a vig around. Unless the vig simply missed his night action (or, for some reason chose not to kill), then he probably tried to kill auto.

So, either the scum still have some sort of protective role (can't be a doc, Narc was the doc, and I've never heard of scum with a backup doc), auto is godfather, or our vig failed to shoot.

I'm open to other possibilities - one shot vig? Inventor / jack-of-all-trades? Two SK's? (Seems unlikely.)

Anyone else have any guesses? If auto is the godfather, we'll know tonight. Otherwise, this is worth exploring. My gut tells me it's probably nothing more complicated than a vig with limited shots, but I'm not sure.

I already claimed vig.

I tried to kill auto last night.

Nothing happened. So either:
1. I was roleblocked
2. He is Godfather
3. A doc protected him.

BUT with mandy being caught out on that lie, both of them are looking very scummy.

You were maybe a vig. But there was a roles rotation, so it means very little. If you are townie, unvote Auto and wait for JND.

Oh, jeez. I caught you on a blatent lie collaborating with autoload and you make as if nothing happened.

Tsk, tsk. No unvoting.

[Syzygy]

And I have been cought in no lie!! PM AK and ask him something, if you don't believe me.

Alright, fine.

I'll ask him if it's possible that he did somehow send you a message without being logged in.

[mandalorian2298]

Hmmm. While it's still day, and we can talk, I'd like to theorize regarding the kills.

It seems strange that we had a no-kill last night. There are obviously still two killing roles around, and yet the SK is dead, which means the odds are that we have a vig around. Unless the vig simply missed his night action (or, for some reason chose not to kill), then he probably tried to kill auto.

So, either the scum still have some sort of protective role (can't be a doc, Narc was the doc, and I've never heard of scum with a backup doc), auto is godfather, or our vig failed to shoot.

I'm open to other possibilities - one shot vig? Inventor / jack-of-all-trades? Two SK's? (Seems unlikely.)

Anyone else have any guesses? If auto is the godfather, we'll know tonight. Otherwise, this is worth exploring. My gut tells me it's probably nothing more complicated than a vig with limited shots, but I'm not sure.

I already claimed vig.

I tried to kill auto last night.

Nothing happened. So either:
1. I was roleblocked
2. He is Godfather
3. A doc protected him.

BUT with mandy being caught out on that lie, both of them are looking very scummy.

You were maybe a vig. But there was a roles rotation, so it means very little. If you are townie, unvote Auto and wait for JND.

Oh, jeez. I caught you on a blatent lie collaborating with autoload and you make as if nothing happened.

Tsk, tsk. No unvoting.

What lie?!

[Aimless]

Oh, jeez. I caught you on a blatent lie collaborating with autoload and you make as if nothing happened.

Tsk, tsk. No unvoting.

Shhh... remember the rules? Do not feed the scum? Everytime you feed them, they become more acclimated to human presence, and you raise the risk that you might get attacked.

[Syzygy]

I PMed AK. He was and still is hiding his online status.

This doesn't change the fact that I targeted Auto last night as a vig.

He didn't die. Thus, either I was roleblocked (which is unlikely) or he was protected (I'm waiting for evidence of this though) or he is the godfather.

Convince me to change my vote first, Auto is far from the hammer.

[mandalorian2298]

And I have been cought in no lie!! PM AK and ask him something, if you don't believe me.

Alright, fine.

I'll ask him if it's possible that he did somehow send you a message without being logged in.

Ok, either you are scumm or you are THE thickest person in the all the univeres!!!!!!!! If you are townie then a) Are you drunk? b) Wait for JND to come. If he denies that that discussion between him and Auto took place, I will gladly vote Auto.
If you are scumm (wich seems probable): bad news. The players who survive this far are generally not STUPID enough to quick-lynch when all they have to do is wait for JND to come and answer a simple question: Was he a part of mafia with Auto and Aimless and did he have a conversation with Auto as Auto described it.
JND: READ THIS DAY FROM THE BEGINING. FIND AUTO'S POST IN WICH HE DESCRIBES A PMS THAT THE TWO OF YOU HAVE BEEN SENDING EACHOTHER. TELL US IF HE IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH.

[Syzygy]

And I have been cought in no lie!! PM AK and ask him something, if you don't believe me.

Alright, fine.

I'll ask him if it's possible that he did somehow send you a message without being logged in.

Ok, either you are scumm or you are THE thickest person in the all the univeres!!!!!!!! If you are townie then a) Are you drunk? b) Wait for JND to come. If he denies that that discussion between him and Auto took place, I will gladly vote Auto.
If you are scumm (wich seems probable): bad news. The players who survive this far are generally not STUPID enough to quick-lynch when all they have to do is wait for JND to come and answer a simple question: Was he a part of mafia with Auto and Aimless and did he have a conversation with Auto as Auto described it.
JND: READ THIS DAY FROM THE BEGINING. FIND AUTO'S POST IN WICH HE DESCRIBES A PMS THAT THE TWO OF YOU HAVE BEEN SENDING EACHOTHER. TELL US IF HE IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH.

Nice try, you see if I say that I'm not the thickest person in all the 'univeres' it will look like I'm scum.

I would normally unvote, but seeing as he is far from the hammer there is no need to.

Unvoting now would only make me look scummy. My vote still stays.

[One last request, after this game is over. AK please post everyone's roles and actions throughout the game if you can.]