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Dukasaur wrote:Symmetry wrote:This would be the false assumption that I think you're referring too. It was much more of a joke than anything else, and while irony is tough to read sometimes on the internet, I think it should be taken as such.Dukasaur wrote:Symmetry wrote:Let's be clear- this isn't a thread for appreciating feminine beauty, or about figuring out where women turn up in various degrees of ranking. It's about titillation and sexy kicks.
I can't speak for KoolBack or anyone else, but I can honestly tell you that I have never masturbated while reading any part of the CC forums. Never was even tempted. Admittedly that might be because I'm getting old and my testosterone levels are not what they used to be. I suppose if I was 17 and looking at these images it might be a different story. But then, a 17 year old can ejaculate by staring at a knothole in a cedar plank, so that too doesn't prove much.
It may have been partially a joke, but I think you were at least partially serious. It's certainly consistent with the rest of what you're saying.
Dukasaur wrote:(...excise long quote. If I couldn't make myself understood after all that, then I'm probably not going to improve anything by repeating it all...)
Basically to paraphrase your recent arguments, you've been arguing that our desire to look at pretty women and not pretty men makes us hypocrites, and that if we're not willing to give men and women equal time that proves that this is just a pornographic thread for getting off on looking at the women. (Which in turn is why I think you were at least partially serious with your comments about readers masturbating.)
Dukasaur wrote:My response to that is that while appreciation of the female form is rooted in sexuality, and if you're not going to draw a line between that which merely brings a smile to a man's face and that which brings an erection to his loins then you're losing any point you might be trying to make.
Dukasaur wrote:To make a non-sexual analogy: If I wish to make some statements about "moving objects" and you jump in and say, "but ALL objects are moving objects, since they are all sitting on planet Earth which is itself always moving" then yes, you are in the strict sense telling the truth, but you are at the same time doing truth a disservice. You are making the whole category "moving objects" useless by redefining it.
Dukasaur wrote:If you argue that all images of women are pornographic because all our appreciation of women is rooted in our sexual need for them, you are making the whole category of pornography useless, and all discussion of it irrelevant.
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Robinette wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Basically to paraphrase your recent arguments, you've been arguing that our desire to look at pretty women and not pretty men makes us hypocrites, and that if we're not willing to give men and women equal time that proves that this is just a pornographic thread for getting off on looking at the women. (Which in turn is why I think you were at least partially serious with your comments about readers masturbating.)
I'm not asking for anyone to give equal time to viewing pictures of hot sexy and nsfw pictures of women as they would for hot sexy and nsfw pictures of men. Just that, hey, if I post a dude in trunks in the middle of a thread of several hundred pictures of women in underwear that posters on this thread not call down the apocalypse. I don't think I "ruined" this thread by doing so, I don't think it was an action worthy of calling on the mods to punish me (those pics were reported),
Symmetry wrote:I don't think they were worthy of the demands that they be removed, or the foeing I received by players and indeed the suggestions by those players that I be foed by others.
Dukasaur wrote:But since the Girl had a firm grip on Page Three, the Boy usually languished somewhere around Page Fifty. This led to further cries of favoritism, so various attempts were made during the 90s to put them on an equal footing -- first close to the front, and then close to the back. But putting the Girl and Boy on an equal footing, whether on Page 4+5 or on page 54+55, led to worse outcries than ever before. People of all genders and all sexual preferences didn't want their ideal beauty "contaminated" by the presence of their non-ideal beauty.
Symmetry wrote:Dukasaur wrote:My response to that is that while appreciation of the female form is rooted in sexuality, and if you're not going to draw a line between that which merely brings a smile to a man's face and that which brings an erection to his loins then you're losing any point you might be trying to make.
My first response is that people who use the word "loins" outside of directly referring to cuts of meat sound a little bit creepy. My second response is that I think my posts brought a smile to many people's faces, and it's that second type of response that led to the complaints.
Symmetry wrote:If it's any consolation, I think that even if I had been arguing on this thread that all images of women are pornographic, then I strongly suspect uses would still be found for the category of pornography by a large number of people. Your concern for its well-being are, I fear, largely unfounded.
Dukasaur wrote:Anyway, I think we've flogged the horse dead. I've really enjoyed debating with a master!
Symmetry wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Anyway, I think we've flogged the horse dead. I've really enjoyed debating with a master!
Well played, Dukasaur, well played.
Robinette wrote:
Robinette wrote:Symmetry wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Anyway, I think we've flogged the horse dead. I've really enjoyed debating with a master!
Well played, Dukasaur, well played.
I am very happy to see the 2 of you getting along so well...
I was getting very concerned just how far you two master-debaters were going to take this...![]()
Robinette wrote:
Robinette wrote:Symmetry wrote:Dukasaur wrote:Anyway, I think we've flogged the horse dead. I've really enjoyed debating with a master!
Well played, Dukasaur, well played.
I am very happy to see the 2 of you getting along so well...
I was getting very concerned just how far you two master-debaters were going to take this...
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