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Chariot of Fire wrote:As for GreecePwns.....yeah, what? A massive debt. Get a job you slacker.
Viceroy wrote:[The Biblical creation story] was written in a time when there was no way to confirm this fact and is in fact a statement of the facts.
saxitoxin wrote:based on the absolute vitriol you and your confederates have expressed for Arabs in this thread, such as comparing them to snakes and declaring them squatters
saxitoxin wrote:it is clear you're most likely a white supremacist.
saxitoxin wrote:The wonderful author, celebrated feminist, and Jewish-American Naomi Wolf (Wolf was an observant Jew who even lived in Quds for 2 years) has just renounced Judaism.
saxitoxin wrote:The professional Chilean football team
EU calls on Hamas to disarm, condemns use of civilians as shields
Israel received a strong backwind from an unlikely source on Tuesday, when the EU issued a statement strongly denouncing Hamas and condemning their use of civilians as human shields.
The EUās foreign ministers, following a monthly meeting in Brussels, issued a statement on the Middle East condemning āthe indiscriminate firing of rockets into Israel by Hamas and militant groups in the Gaza Strip, directly harming civilians. These are criminal and unjustifiable acts.ā
The statement also called on Hamas to put an immediate end to its rocket attacks and to renounce violence.
āAll terrorist groups in Gaza must disarm,ā it said. āThe EU strongly condemns calls on the civilian population of Gaza to provide themselves as human shields.ā
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protecti ... lds-368509
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
Hamas leader turns down unconditional truce
DEBKAfile July 23, 2014, 10:02 PM (IDT)
Khaled Meshaal, Hamasā politburo chief, said in Qatar Wednesday that he would accept a truce in the Gaza war only on Hamasā terms.
āEveryone wanted us to accept a cease-fire and then negotiate for our rights,ā Mr. Meshal said at a news conference in Qatar, his home in exile, taking aim at the very approach Mr. Kerry has sought to nurture. āWe reject this, and we reject it again today.ā
Israeli troops have uncovered and taken control of 13 tunnels so far, Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, the military spokesman, said, running as much as 30 yards underground and sturdily built with what the military estimates is 600,000 tons of concrete. Concrete is a precious resource in Gaza, with most imports banned except for international projects, so it appeared that the material came through tunnels from Egypt or was diverted frim its intended purpose. The lack of concrete for building has left many Gazans unable to rebuild homes and without work.
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
GabonX wrote:
*racist, Islamaphobic, conspiracy/birther screed*
GabonX wrote:
Here he's pictured working out in Qatar, shedding calories from his delicious meal, while contemplating the bloodshed endured by Palestinians.
GabonX wrote: If you had a shred of integrity in regards to disseminating real information
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Israel aimed to 'cleanse' Gaza neighbourhoods in 2008 invasion
But in startling interviews with Israeli filmmaker Nurit Kedar, former soldiers have for the first time allowed themselves to be named while blaming their commanders for encouraging a "disproportionate" response to Hamas's rockets. They said their commanders used to "psych up" soldiers before an operation so they were ready to shoot indiscriminately.
One soldier says he was told to shell every house in a neighbourhood.
In a report to be shown on Channel 4 News on Monday, Ohad, a 24-year-old tank commander, remembers being told the night before the operation that the entry into Gaza was to be "disproportionate". Once into Gaza, he said his orders were unambiguous: "The order was very clear that if a car came within 200 metres of me I could simply shoot at it. Shoot a shell at it."
He added: "We needed to cleanse the neighbourhoods, the buildings, the area. It sounds really terrible to say 'cleanse', but those were the orders....I don't want to make a mistake with the words."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... asion.html
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:No response from the bible thumpers about the Chief Rabbi of Hebron who wants to behead Gentile babies and subject POWs to medical experimentation. Just angry chaff and racist screeds.
Anyway, the Chief Rabbi is representative of Israeli state policy. The Telegraph reported that, in 2008, Israel's #1 objective was racial extermination ...Israel aimed to 'cleanse' Gaza neighbourhoods in 2008 invasion
But in startling interviews with Israeli filmmaker Nurit Kedar, former soldiers have for the first time allowed themselves to be named while blaming their commanders for encouraging a "disproportionate" response to Hamas's rockets. They said their commanders used to "psych up" soldiers before an operation so they were ready to shoot indiscriminately.
One soldier says he was told to shell every house in a neighbourhood.
In a report to be shown on Channel 4 News on Monday, Ohad, a 24-year-old tank commander, remembers being told the night before the operation that the entry into Gaza was to be "disproportionate". Once into Gaza, he said his orders were unambiguous: "The order was very clear that if a car came within 200 metres of me I could simply shoot at it. Shoot a shell at it."
He added: "We needed to cleanse the neighbourhoods, the buildings, the area. It sounds really terrible to say 'cleanse', but those were the orders....I don't want to make a mistake with the words."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... asion.html
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
saxitoxin wrote:
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
GabonX wrote: Btw, what happened to your polls Saxi?
GabonX wrote: He fits right in with the other maniacs you support like Kim Jung Il and Bashar Assad.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:No response from the bible thumpers about the Chief Rabbi of Hebron who wants to behead Gentile babies and subject POWs to medical experimentation. Just angry chaff and racist screeds.
Anyway, the Chief Rabbi is representative of Israeli state policy. The Telegraph reported that, in 2008, Israel's #1 objective was racial extermination ...Israel aimed to 'cleanse' Gaza neighbourhoods in 2008 invasion
But in startling interviews with Israeli filmmaker Nurit Kedar, former soldiers have for the first time allowed themselves to be named while blaming their commanders for encouraging a "disproportionate" response to Hamas's rockets. They said their commanders used to "psych up" soldiers before an operation so they were ready to shoot indiscriminately.
One soldier says he was told to shell every house in a neighbourhood.
In a report to be shown on Channel 4 News on Monday, Ohad, a 24-year-old tank commander, remembers being told the night before the operation that the entry into Gaza was to be "disproportionate". Once into Gaza, he said his orders were unambiguous: "The order was very clear that if a car came within 200 metres of me I could simply shoot at it. Shoot a shell at it."
He added: "We needed to cleanse the neighbourhoods, the buildings, the area. It sounds really terrible to say 'cleanse', but those were the orders....I don't want to make a mistake with the words."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... asion.html
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
GabonX wrote:saxitoxin wrote:No response from the bible thumpers about the Chief Rabbi of Hebron who wants to behead Gentile babies and subject POWs to medical experimentation. Just angry chaff and racist screeds.
Anyway, the Chief Rabbi is representative of Israeli state policy. The Telegraph reported that, in 2008, Israel's #1 objective was racial extermination ...Israel aimed to 'cleanse' Gaza neighbourhoods in 2008 invasion
But in startling interviews with Israeli filmmaker Nurit Kedar, former soldiers have for the first time allowed themselves to be named while blaming their commanders for encouraging a "disproportionate" response to Hamas's rockets. They said their commanders used to "psych up" soldiers before an operation so they were ready to shoot indiscriminately.
One soldier says he was told to shell every house in a neighbourhood.
In a report to be shown on Channel 4 News on Monday, Ohad, a 24-year-old tank commander, remembers being told the night before the operation that the entry into Gaza was to be "disproportionate". Once into Gaza, he said his orders were unambiguous: "The order was very clear that if a car came within 200 metres of me I could simply shoot at it. Shoot a shell at it."
He added: "We needed to cleanse the neighbourhoods, the buildings, the area. It sounds really terrible to say 'cleanse', but those were the orders....I don't want to make a mistake with the words."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... asion.html
Yarmouk was home to the largest Palestinian refugee community in the country before the conflict began. 180,000 Palestinian civilians called it home. Now only 20,000 remain. Food and medical supplies are routinely denied entry and starvation is one of the three main causes of death. Recently, in the Jarabulus area, 22 people were killed and thrown into the streets to instill fear in the population. Some of them were children.
Amnesty International has called for the immediate lifting of the siege, the cessation of shelling and other indiscriminate attacks, and for humanitarian agencies to have unfettered access to the area. The disproportional attacks on civilians must end.
Down with Israel? Not quite. Yarmouk and Jarabulus are in Syria.
In fact, many in that country are decrying the lack of attention to their plight and the fact that images and videos often go viral only when they are falsely presented as being from Gaza. Marc Lynch, the Director of the Institute for Middle East Studies at GWU, put it succinctly when he said, āIt must be so awkward having to check whether the dead child is from Gaza or Syria before deciding whether to be morally outraged.ā
So to those condemning Israel: Are you pro-Palestinian, or are you really just anti-Israel? Many of you purportedly care so much when you really care so little. As Leon Wieseltier of the New Republic once wrote: It is easier ānot to dive deep into the substance of anything. It is less immediately satisfying than cursing and linking.ā
My Twitter and Facebook feeds would have me believe that the only noteworthy military conflict in the world today is that between Israel and Hamas. Either many of you care about war only when it involves a Jew holding a gun, or you are woefully unaware of what else is going on in the world. In case it is the latter, and I sincerely hope it is, here is a (very) partial list of the death tolls from other ongoing conflicts. In no particular order:
Syria: 162,000+
Mexico: ~80,000
Nigeria: ~5,000
South Sudan: ~10,000
Gaza: ~600
This is not to say that your attention and sympathies should be dictated by casualty counts. All civilian deaths are tragic. Moreover, such figures tell us nothing about the moral standing of the warring parties, especially not in the case of the asymmetric warfare that Hamas is waging. After all, the United States lost about 450,000 lives fighting in World War II while the Nazis lost over seven million, yet I would wager that none of you think the Nazis held the moral high ground. At least I hope so. The twisted logic and moral relativism of some of the posts I have been reading make me wonder.
What these figures do show is that while all war contains tragedy, including the one in Gaza and Israel, only deaths connected to Jews seem to evoke the cries we have been hearing over the number of dead in Gaza, which pales in comparison to other conflicts and is largely due to Hamasā grotesque tactics. While there are few of you whom I would accuse as individuals of holding animosity toward Jews, there are many of you who are participating in a global, collective media assault on Israel that is indeed suggestive of something much darker.
I am not asking you not to care. On the contrary, I am hoping that you all start to care more ā about the many problems in the world. Then, perhaps going forward your condemnation of Israel could be ā letās see, how I should I put this ā more proportional.
http://jonathanmessing.com/2014/07/22/m ... n-yarmouk/
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Metsfanmax wrote:This poll was hard for me because I do think people don't take saxi seriously anymore; but I don't think they ever took GabonX seriously.
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
saxitoxin wrote:So I posted a salient excerpt from The Daily Telegraph, a 150 year-old, Fleet Street cornerstone, and Gabby replies with a wall of text from some dude's blog (funny how all the bible thumpers sources are (a) blogs from random dudes, (b) Bible websites, (c) IDF press statements - this has been one of the most hilarious consistencies through this thread).
But, of course, I'm marketing misinformation. lalalalala
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
GabonX wrote:saxitoxin wrote:So I posted a salient excerpt from The Daily Telegraph, a 150 year-old, Fleet Street cornerstone, and Gabby replies with a wall of text from some dude's blog (funny how all the bible thumpers sources are (a) blogs from random dudes, (b) Bible websites, (c) IDF press statements - this has been one of the most hilarious consistencies through this thread).
But, of course, I'm marketing misinformation. lalalalala
You are marketing misinformation as has been exemplified many times throughout this thread. I also quoted the New York Times which you conveniently ignored, but the fact that you have to attack the source instead of addressing the information, because it's true the vast majority of the time when you make this fallacious argument, shows that you have no counter aside from misdirection and deception.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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GabonX wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:This poll was hard for me because I do think people don't take saxi seriously anymore; but I don't think they ever took GabonX seriously.
That's fine, I know how you feel about me. As long as the truth is there to counter Saxi's lies and hatred you can think whatever you want.
Metsfanmax wrote:GabonX wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:This poll was hard for me because I do think people don't take saxi seriously anymore; but I don't think they ever took GabonX seriously.
That's fine, I know how you feel about me. As long as the truth is there to counter Saxi's lies and hatred you can think whatever you want.
I actually don't remember why I dislike you, but I have you on foe so there must have been a good reason.
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
GabonX wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:GabonX wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:This poll was hard for me because I do think people don't take saxi seriously anymore; but I don't think they ever took GabonX seriously.
That's fine, I know how you feel about me. As long as the truth is there to counter Saxi's lies and hatred you can think whatever you want.
I actually don't remember why I dislike you, but I have you on foe so there must have been a good reason.
I kept calling you an idiot, like repeatedly throughout many threads.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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saxitoxin wrote:GabonX wrote:saxitoxin wrote:So I posted a salient excerpt from The Daily Telegraph, a 150 year-old, Fleet Street cornerstone, and Gabby replies with a wall of text from some dude's blog (funny how all the bible thumpers sources are (a) blogs from random dudes, (b) Bible websites, (c) IDF press statements - this has been one of the most hilarious consistencies through this thread).
But, of course, I'm marketing misinformation. lalalalala
You are marketing misinformation as has been exemplified many times throughout this thread. I also quoted the New York Times which you conveniently ignored, but the fact that you have to attack the source instead of addressing the information, because it's true the vast majority of the time when you make this fallacious argument, shows that you have no counter aside from misdirection and deception.
I'm not making any argument at all.
I'm making a salient observation, that being that you and the other bible thumpers sources are all so utterly bizarre (Bible prophecy websites, low traffic blogs, something called "blacksupremacyloveunity.wordpress.com," etc.) that it's essentially impossible and unreasonable to expect we ignore the fact these are the places from which you form your worldview. Selecting these places to form your opinion also speaks to your judgment. It also speaks to your state of mind, which, based on the near hysterical rage you've exhibited in this thread, and your previous obsession with Barack Obama's birth certificate, seems a little shaky.
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
GabonX wrote:Show me where I've used scripture to justify anything on these boards...
GabonX wrote:Show me
Metsfanmax wrote:GabonX wrote:Show me where I've used scripture to justify anything on these boards...
He won't, because this fallacy runs much deeper than just ad hominem, as I've pointed out in this thread. If I were to post something by some random blogger in the Westboro Baptist Church, say, about the state of gay marriage laws in West Virginia, he probably wouldn't spend pages talking about how I hate gays. However, when I post something about a question of fact -- whether or not Hamas bombed a region during a ceasefire -- from a clearly biased source about Israel, suddenly that means I hate Arabs. This has nothing to do with posting things from questionable sources and everything to do with the position that he is trying to advance.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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