Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

[bigtoughralf]

anti-Jew.

Yeah, the only reason anyone ever opposes the Israeli government's displacement, oppression and abuse of Palestinian people is because the Israeli government is Jewish.

As opposed to you, the guy who writes explicitly anti-Muslim posts merely because you are a caring and compassionate guy.

[bigtoughralf]

More footage emerges of Ukranian soldiers shooting Russian POWs (a war crime):

bbc.co.uk/news/61025388

[jusplay4fun]

What is going on the battle fronts in Ukraine?

Kremlin spokesman acknowledges ‘significant losses’ of Russian troops

By Meryl Kornfield3:17 p.m.

In a stark acknowledgment, the Kremlin’s spokesman said Russia had suffered “significant losses of troops” in Ukraine, despite past proclamations of success in its invasion.

“We have significant losses of troops,” Dmitry Peskov said in a half-hour interview with Sky News on Thursday, “and it’s a huge tragedy for us.”

While Moscow has not publicly recognized the scope of its losses, a senior NATO military official estimated last month that roughly 7,000 to 15,000 Russian troops have been killed in the first four weeks of fighting in Ukraine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/07/russia-ukraine-war-news-putin-live-updates/#link-V5BBMDNOBVHNVLGH2OVWGGQZRU

Did pukin' putin and his puppet saxi LIE to US..????? NO WAY...!!!

[jusplay4fun]

Today in Western news coverage: 'Why the Ukraine invasion is China's fault'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-60500307

It's okay though, apparently Putin is preparing a report into possible WMDs in Ukraine. Once he's published that, Western popular opinion and media coverage will no doubt come down firmly in favour of killing 500,000 Ukrainian civilians in a full-scale invasion and overthrow of the regime.

Good invasion of "peacekeepers." well done, smallsoftralph and his boss, saxi, the Troll. Your predictions are so on point.

[thegroover]

Its going so well that western leaders are 'popping over' to Kiev for a chat and a cup of tea. Even Boris has nipped over.

Putin is getting his a*** kicked bigtime. And he is being made to look a fool now.

If the push into the south goes pear shaped, as it may well do, he will struggle to come out of this with anything other than 10's of thousands of dead soldiers that he has used as cannon fodder.

I would never normally wish this on anyone but I hope he gets bumped off real soon so that we can all get on with our lives.

[jusplay4fun]

Its going so well that western leaders are 'popping over' to Kiev for a chat and a cup of tea. Even Boris has nipped over.

Putin is getting his a*** kicked bigtime. And he is being made to look a fool now.

If the push into the south goes pear shaped, as it may well do, he will struggle to come out of this with anything other than 10's of thousands of dead soldiers that he has used as cannon fodder.

I would never normally wish this on anyone but I hope he gets bumped off real soon so that we can all get on with our lives.

Yes, AGREED.

I think that Boris Johnson going to Kyiv was a bold move. My wife said something like "Boris Johnson is a a bit crazy. And JUST look at his hair." (paraphrased, just to be clear and NOT an actual quote). My reply to her was that apparently Kyiv is not under a huge and direct military threat, as the Russians have pulled their troops out the region. And that is apparently true, despite the "spin" attempted by the putin spokesman, Dmitry Peskov.

I have been ranting about pukin' putin for a while, so I need not repeat all that vitriol that I have directed at him and his only TWO loyal followers here on CC. In light of the atrocities and acts of heinous cruelty committed by the Russians now revealed by the Ukrainian liberation of the northern suburbs of Kyiv, that vitriol was too tame.

[jusplay4fun]

Update for April 12:

CNN geolocated a video shared to social media on Monday showing a large column of Russian military vehicles near Matveev Kurgan, a settlement in Russia’s Rostov region.

The vehicles are seen facing north-west, in the direction of the Donbas region.

A senior Ukrainian official on Monday also said a Russian offensive in Ukraine's Donbas region "has already started," warning that Russia continued to amass forces in the region.

In remarks on national television, Vadym Denysenko, adviser to the Minister of Internal Affairs, said:

"From my point of view, this big offensive [in the East] has already started. We have to understand it's not going to be the repetition of Feb 24th, when the first airstrikes and explosions started and we said: 'The war has begun.' The big offensive de-facto has already started."
Ukrainian and Western officials have said in recent days they have observed a redeployment of Russian troops to Donbas following major setbacks for Moscow in a push to take Kyiv.

"Yes, there are still no major battles that are being discussed so much in the past few days. But in general we could say the offensive has already started," Denysenko said.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-04-12-22/h_43c93d139f6968b5272237bd870fc632

also:

Russia and chemical weapons: What you need to know
(CNN)After US intelligence accurately predicted Russia's invasion of Ukraine, it's disturbing that Americans now fear Russia is preparing to use chemical weapons during the conflict.

"I'm not going to speak about the intelligence, but Russia will pay a severe price if they use chemicals," President Joe Biden told CNN's Arlette Saenz last week.
Russia has planted the unsubstantiated idea that Ukraine and the US may use these weapons, an allegation that national security adviser Jake Sullivan said Sunday should be a warning.
"It's a tell that they themselves may be preparing to do so, and then trying to pin the blame on someone else," he said.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/15/politics/chemical-weapons-russia-what-matters/index.html

[bigtoughralf]

Irish MEP Clare Daly delivers a takedown of all the smoothbrains demanding sanction after sanction against Russia:

[HitRed]

Biden calls Ukraine invasion ‘genocide'

[jusplay4fun]

Biden calls Ukraine invasion ‘genocide'

Yes, I read that and decided it was JUST more rhetoric and not worthy of a post. Biden had also called pukin' putin a "war criminal" in some remarks (likely off-hand comments that was not part of his prepared remarks).

SO WHAT? For now, NONE of that is important or of real consequence, as the war continues and putin calls off peace talks because he hopes to win the war on the ground in Eastern Ukraine. Then he can better dictate what he wants for a peace settlement.

pukin' putin will likely push for annexation of MORE of Ukraine, especially in the South and East to have a land link to Crimea, which he already seized in 2014. I think someone had that as THE plan back in the early pages of this thread, WITH MAPS.

[mookiemcgee]

Biden calls Ukraine invasion ‘genocide'

Not a fan of this move at all. This is an invasion, not a genocide and it neuters future use of the term. It's sort of like the word terrorism, it used to have real meaning and was shocking when people used it, now my wife calls me a terrorist when i poop and don't tell her before she walks into the bathroom to use it herself.

[bigtoughralf]

The head of the World Health Organization has today slammed world leaders for pouring aid into white Ukraine while providing little or no help to people similarly suffering in black or brown countries:

bbc.co.uk/news/world-61101732

It's not really any surprise that the US doesn't care seeing as it provides the weapons for most of those other wars, but where are leaders like Johnson or Macron who've been so loud about Ukraine?

[jusplay4fun]

Russia’s Black Sea Flagship Sinks After Ukraine Claims Missile Strike
Moscow says sailors aboard missile cruiser Moskva were rescued

KYIV, Ukraine—The flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, the warship Moskva, sank Thursday from damage suffered from a fire following what the Ukrainian military said was a cruise missile strike targeting the vessel.

Russia said the source of the fire was unknown but had set off explosions of ammunition on board. A statement by the Russian Defense Ministry, reported by state agencies, said the ship sank in stormy weather due to structural damage as it was being towed to port.
[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-black-sea-fleet-flagship-damaged-evacuated-after-ukraine-claims-missile-strike-

11649920914[/url]

That went well for pukin' putin.

[HitRed]

Will this war be over by NewYears?

[jusplay4fun]

Biden calls Ukraine invasion ‘genocide'

Not a fan of this move at all. This is an invasion, not a genocide and it neuters future use of the term. It's sort of like the word terrorism, it used to have real meaning and was shocking when people used it, now my wife calls me a terrorist when i poop and don't tell her before she walks into the bathroom to use it herself.

Many words get over-used and trivialized by such overuse, and that sort of over-use of a word happens often. I cannot count how many times I heard the word HERO used to discuss those doing their jobs after 9/11: police, fire, AND EMT and Paramedic rescue folks. I felt at that time many who were called hero were simply doing what they are trained and hired to do: save lives. A REAL HERO goes well beyond mere mundane and ordinary situations.

Hate terms like "racist" and "Nazi" and "homophobe" are often overused as well; they are often used try to insult others. The same with advertising: words like amazing, new and improved, and "on sale." Then some resort to throw in an obscenity (or more) used as an adjective to try to emphasize the significance of the episode or situation. The "F-bomb" was formerly used as shock value; now we hear it so often that I usually "tune it out" and ignore its intended impact. I find that use of obscenities indicates lack of an ability to articulate ideas due to a limited vocabulary and are often a overly emotional reaction, with little thought. THAT often happens with a few who post on occasions here in this Forum.

[Qwert]

I dont know if its true, but i notice more news and information that US arms salesman have huge benefit of war in Ukraine , increasing selling weapons and equipment in Europe and Ukraine . If these its true US arms industry will have most likely want that war last very long ?
Any other opinions, are these make any sense?

[HitRed]

I own Honeywell stock. They make lots of parts if not the whole weapon system.

https://aerospace.honeywell.com/us/en/l ... ms/defense

Most of these aircraft are not given to Ukraine so the benefits are not there. They do supply parts for missile systems but again I’m not sure if the Ukrainians are getting these particular versions.

The stock is about up $10 since the start of the war. 185 to 195. It’s a very diverse company with many non military parts.

It is very possible NATO members are buying more these days which would increase sales. Everyone has friends and family that could be impacted by war. I doubt anyone wants this to continue except Putin.

[jusplay4fun]

I dont know if its true, but i notice more news and information that US arms salesman have huge benefit of war in Ukraine , increasing selling weapons and equipment in Europe and Ukraine . If these its true US arms industry will have most likely want that war last very long ?
Any other opinions, are these make any sense?

Of course, makers and sellers of weapons wants war and want to sell more; there is Nothing new here.

[jusplay4fun]

Russia’s Black Sea Flagship Sinks After Ukraine Claims Missile Strike
Moscow says sailors aboard missile cruiser Moskva were rescued

KYIV, Ukraine—The flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, the warship Moskva, sank Thursday from damage suffered from a fire following what the Ukrainian military said was a cruise missile strike targeting the vessel.

Russia said the source of the fire was unknown but had set off explosions of ammunition on board. A statement by the Russian Defense Ministry, reported by state agencies, said the ship sank in stormy weather due to structural damage as it was being towed to port.
[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-black-sea-fleet-flagship-damaged-evacuated-after-ukraine-claims-missile-strike-

11649920914[/url]

That went well for pukin' putin.

Days after the sinking of a Russian warship, questions linger.
Neil MacFarquhar
April 17, 2022, 10:35 a.m. ET
Neil MacFarquhar

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/17/world/europe/russia-ship-sinking-moskva.html

A video released by Russia’s Ministry of Defense purporting to show dozens of uniformed crew members from the missile cruiser Moskva standing in formation, apparently days after the ship sank, did not answer lingering questions about the fate of the vessel and its more than 500 personnel.

The questions reached the point Saturday where even Vladimir Solovyev, a popular prime-time talk-show host whose pronouncements often reflect the Kremlin line, began asking what went wrong.

Mr. Solovyev, describing himself as “outraged” over the sinking, then asked a series of rhetorical questions that picked at both versions of how the Black Sea fleet vessel sank overnight on Wednesday.

If the ship caught fire before sinking, as the Russians claim, then why did it not have a system to extinguish such blazes, the television host wondered aloud. If the ship was sunk by two Ukrainian-made Neptune missiles, as Ukrainian and unidentified U.S. Defense Department officials have claimed, then why did it lack an antimissile system?

“Just explain to me how you managed to lose it,” Mr. Solovyev asked no one in particular on his Saturday show, Solovyev Live, when he has no guests in the studio.

The segment was unusual not least because Mr. Solovyev broached the idea that Ukraine had managed to sink the Moskva, one of the biggest naval losses anywhere in the world since World War II.

[HitRed]

It has 3 missile defense systems. Ukraine drones in the area confused them.

Russian fire fighting measures are 40 years behind American ships.

[jusplay4fun]

It has 3 missile defense systems. Ukraine drones in the area confused them.

Russian fire fighting measures are 40 years behind American ships.

I read a comment that the Russians had two BAD choices:

1) admit that two Ukrainian missiles hit the warship Moskva and sank it (eventually), OR

2) the ship was so incompetently designed and managed that a fire caused all the problems and eventually caused THE FLAGSHIP of the Russian Black Sea to SINK.

That sinking is almost as bad as the Russian column attacking Kyiv to run out of food and fuel before it got there. And THEN the Russians commit atrocities and heinous and criminal acts in the northern suburbs of the capital city.

Well done, Russian Army. And well done, pukin' putin. Notice that saxi and ralf have NOTHING to say NOW. There are TWO Losers that keep supporting another LOSER. You three deserve each other. It is said that War makes strange bedfellows.

[HitRed]

Nothing is more important than a fire on a ship. Even the enemy.

[jusplay4fun]

we agree, on the Russian warship that SANK, and....

(so a farm animal does not go into tantrums for a double post....)

saxi is still ugly, and has bad breath, too, for a repeat of the THIRD opinion.

[Qwert]

note for everybody> winners dont commit crimes, winners dont kill civilians . These its old rule through entire human history , no mater who commit crimes .US. Europe ASia Africa Russia.
You can agree or disagree but these its facts.