Obama releases longer birth certifcate

[saxitoxin]

The Smoking Gun on the birth certificate:

• In the “This Birth” box there are two mysterious Xs above “Twin” and “Triplet.” Is there a sibling or two unaccounted for?

Does Obama have a sibling he is trying to hide? Who is the sibling and what has he done that needs to be kept quiet? Is this the reason he was stalling? To "clean up" "loose ends"? We already know he's ordered the deaths of more than 1,000 women and children in Pakistan. Surely a homicidal maniac like that wouldn't bat an eye at ordering an embarrassing brother "handled"?

• The typed text in most of the fields are centered. Why wouldn’t they all be left justified? This form was supposedly filled in by typewriter in 1961. Who would figure out the center of almost every field and the length of every answer and then center each one manually?

• The certificate establishes Obama's father's nationality as Kenyan. Is Obama a dual US-British citizen?

A case prepared in 1916 that "dual citizens" do not meet the requirement of "natural born citizens" to disqualify Republican Charles Evans Hughes from holding the Presidency had he won that election over Democrat Woodrow Wilson:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29744612/Brec ... zen-Within

[saxitoxin]

Yay- birtherism is finished. Fox news and half of American conservatives have been shown to be deluded. Mr Obama is legally president.

Could have avoided all this "silliness" if he would have coughed up the frigging thing three years ago.

He did. Only birthers needed extra explantion.

Do you believe this "explantion" [sic] calls into question Obama's sound judgment in that he appointed a birther, Hillary Clinton, to head the U.S. foreign ministry? Perhaps he is not qualified to be President on a less legal, more philosophical, basis if he is appointing conspiracy nuts like Clinton to high office?

[Symmetry]

Still trying to make it the issue that it never was (in my case)? I just wanted him to release it (to end the sillies) and pondered from time to time why he did not release it yet.

And it wasn't all a joke.....just this.

c'mon guys...666 Muslim St.?

*sigh* he published it in 2008, when he was campaigning.

Why did he do that? Is it customary to publish a birth certificate while campaigning? Did someone demand to see it or something?

he's referring to the certificate of live birth

Or, as normal people put it, the birth certificate.

[saxitoxin]

Latest Twist: Why Does Birth Certificate Consist of Multiple Layers?

When the PDF file given from WhiteHouse.gov is opened in Adobe Illustrator it shows up in different layers. Our analysis of the latest controversy: The original birth certificate was probably in a ‘negative’ form, and someone at the White House took it upon themselves to doctor it up so the form can be readable.

http://wireupdate.com/video/2011/04/pre ... as-layers/

The latter explanation seems plausible, however, with all the controversy surrounding this, one would imagine a statement of explanation describing that the document had been graphically "enhanced" for readability would have accompanied the release. Right?

[Phatscotty]

Latest Twist: Why Does Birth Certificate Consist of Multiple Layers?

When the PDF file given from WhiteHouse.gov is opened in Adobe Illustrator it shows up in different layers. Our analysis of the latest controversy: The original birth certificate was probably in a ‘negative’ form, and someone at the White House took it upon themselves to doctor it up so the form can be readable.

http://wireupdate.com/video/2011/04/pre ... as-layers/

The latter explanation seems plausible, however, with all the controversy surrounding this, one would imagine a statement of explanation describing that the document had been graphically "enhanced" for readability would have accompanied the release. Right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF8GhC-T_Mo&t=1m18s

[Nobunaga]

Still trying to make it the issue that it never was (in my case)? I just wanted him to release it (to end the sillies) and pondered from time to time why he did not release it yet.

And it wasn't all a joke.....just this.

c'mon guys...666 Muslim St.?

*sigh* he published it in 2008, when he was campaigning.

Why did he do that? Is it customary to publish a birth certificate while campaigning? Did someone demand to see it or something?

he's referring to the certificate of live birth

Or, as normal people put it, the birth certificate.

... No, Symmetry, they are very different documents.

... My son was born in the PRC and had to have a certificate of live birth issued to him so as to recieve a social security number and a passport. It was issued by the US Consulate in Guangzhou.

... My son's actual birth certificate is a Chinese document issued at the hospital in which he was born and is useless for all those things folks need birth ceriticates (not recognized by federal, state or local government).

... The Certificate of Live Birth does note the place of birth, and in Obama's case, that's good enough for me. But I cannot help but wonder why the man does not have an actual birth certificate to show, unless things are done differently in the state of Hawaii.

...

[saxitoxin]

Obama Demands, Receives Special Treatment - Average Citizens Told "F-Off"

"I am writing to request two certified copies of my original certificate of live birth," the president wrote on White House letterhead, dated April 22.

State officials then decided to make an exception to a 2001 policy that prohibited anyone from getting a photocopy of an original birth certificate. They usually hand out computer-generated versions.

Obama's waiver was the first since 2001. Officials said it would be the last.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/artic ... h_records/

I'd also like to query whether Obama typically uses taxpayer-funded property - letterhead, postage, etc. - to finance purely personal matters, such as genealogical research, paying his credit card bill, etc.? Do most people's companies allow them to use their stationary, office supplies and postage to do genealogical research?

[Phatscotty]

Symm, I love ya like a brother and you bring out the best in me, but certificate of live birth and birth certificate are different. There is nothing I am trying to say there except that they are different.

[Mr_Adams]

I love how people seem to think that if you believe the man was born in another country, you are a racist. It just tickles me.

[Night Strike]

I love how people seem to think that if you disagree with the man, you are a racist. It just tickles me.

Fixed it for you.

[Mr_Adams]

I love how people seem to think that if you disagree with the man, you are a racist. It just tickles me.

Fixed it for you.

Thanks NS

[Phatscotty]

I love how people seem to think that if you disagree with the man, you are a racist. It just tickles me.

Fixed it for you.

Thanks NS

I also love how that makes those people even more racist than the ones they are accusing.

[Phatscotty]

Obama Demands, Receives Special Treatment - Average Citizens Told "F-Off"

"I am writing to request two certified copies of my original certificate of live birth," the president wrote on White House letterhead, dated April 22.

State officials then decided to make an exception to a 2001 policy that prohibited anyone from getting a photocopy of an original birth certificate. They usually hand out computer-generated versions.

Obama's waiver was the first since 2001. Officials said it would be the last.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/artic ... h_records/

I'd also like to query whether Obama typically uses taxpayer-funded property - letterhead, postage, etc. - to finance purely personal matters, such as genealogical research, paying his credit card bill, etc.? Do most people's companies allow them to use their stationary, office supplies and postage to do genealogical research?

I get to send out 20 information packets a month to people who I think might actually buy something from me. Anything after that comes out of my pocket.

[Phatscotty]

Symm, here is exactly what I am talking about. MSNBC's Larry O'donnel starts out with lies saying the birther queen invented the BC issue in summer 2008. Then look at how he acts and how he treats her. They blare the birther issue with sirens and pound it with sludge hammers.

Birtherism is an MSNBC issue hands down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ba9KRIIik

[Phatscotty]

Keep attempting to convince us you aren'ta racist... the KKK might actually believe you!

Here is Oprah asking Obama why he waited so long to release his BC. She must be racist too.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/oprah-a ... rtificate/

oh, what do you know....MSNBC!

[keyborn]

Yay- birtherism is finished. Fox news and half of American conservatives have been shown to be deluded. Mr Obama is legally president.

Could have avoided all this "silliness" if he would have coughed up the frigging thing three years ago.

He did. Only birthers needed extra explanation.

He didn't cough up the long form until this week. Hawaiian officials said they wouldn't release the long form because it has been against the law since 2001. However, BO made a personal request on White House letterhead on April 22. Hawaiian official made an exception one week after BO made his request.

As I said...could have avoided all this "silliness" if he would have coughed up the frigging thing three years ago. Of course, Hawaii probably would have waited to release his birth certificate until he became President and they received his request on official White House letterhead, so I stand corrected. This "silliness" could have been put to rest one week after January 20th, 2009.

[Neoteny]

Hey guys, this is still the stupidest thing ever in presidential history.

[Mr_Adams]

Hey guys, this is still the stupidest thing ever in presidential history.

Ya, it is. 2 1/2 years of controversy that could have been dispelled in 2 1/2 minutes.

[Symmetry]

Hey guys, this is still the stupidest thing ever in presidential history.

Ya, it is. 2 1/2 years of controversy that could have been dispelled in 2 1/2 minutes.

It was, for those of us that don't buy into the conspiracy theory.

[Mr_Adams]

Hey guys, this is still the stupidest thing ever in presidential history.

Ya, it is. 2 1/2 years of controversy that could have been dispelled in 2 1/2 minutes.

It was, for those of us that don't buy into the conspiracy theory.

I have stated it before that it became a non-issue when he came into office, because nobody with power would give it serious attention. Point is, he could have put the concept away long ago.

[Symmetry]

Symm, I love ya like a brother and you bring out the best in me, but certificate of live birth and birth certificate are different. There is nothing I am trying to say there except that they are different.

You'll have to explain to me how they are different. Is it just the title at the top?

Seems to me that a birth certificate is an official document stating that you were born on a certain date, in a certain place, and naming your parents. Anybody doubting the release of that document in 2008, and suggesting it is part of some kind of cover up is a conspiracy theorist.

This is really fascinating stuff. Conservatives have been marinaded in these ridiculous arguments for so long that the conclusion has become the premise. Barack Obama lied about his birth certificate, we just have to work out how.

[Symmetry]

Hey guys, this is still the stupidest thing ever in presidential history.

Ya, it is. 2 1/2 years of controversy that could have been dispelled in 2 1/2 minutes.

It was, for those of us that don't buy into the conspiracy theory.

I have stated it before that it became a non-issue when he came into office, because nobody with power would give it serious attention. Point is, he could have put the concept away long ago.

Ha- really? Nobody with power gave it serious attention?

Political candidates and elected officials who bought into this.

I also note several Republican legislatures who want to, or wanted to pass bills demanding that a presidential candidate show a birth certificate.

Are you really trying to say that nobody with power pandered to this? I note a lot of candidates for the Republican presidential nomination on that list.

[thegreekdog]

I note a lot of candidates for the Republican presidential nomination on that list.

I wouldn't say Michele Bachman should be on the list.

Chris Christie is not on the list. I'm not sure whether he's addressed the non-issue. Although, I've heard tell that conservative no longer like him (I'm not certain of the reason).

[Mr_Adams]

Hey guys, this is still the stupidest thing ever in presidential history.

Ya, it is. 2 1/2 years of controversy that could have been dispelled in 2 1/2 minutes.

It was, for those of us that don't buy into the conspiracy theory.

I have stated it before that it became a non-issue when he came into office, because nobody with power would give it serious attention. Point is, he could have put the concept away long ago.

Ha- really? Nobody with power gave it serious attention?

Political candidates and elected officials who bought into this.

I also note several Republican legislatures who want to, or wanted to pass bills demanding that a presidential candidate show a birth certificate.

Are you really trying to say that nobody with power pandered to this? I note a lot of candidates for the Republican presidential nomination on that list.

Nobody with the power to do anything about it. Those people have political pull in one way or another, but not the wherewithal to bring suit against him if they had evidence to the contrary. Anyways, non-issue by my standards for a long time.

[Symmetry]

I note a lot of candidates for the Republican presidential nomination on that list.

I wouldn't say Michele Bachman should be on the list.

Chris Christie is not on the list. I'm not sure whether he's addressed the non-issue. Although, I've heard tell that conservative no longer like him (I'm not certain of the reason).

A lot of Republicans seem to have stayed silent on the issue. McCain stands out as someone who was flat out able to oppose the President on issues while saying that he absolutely believes him to be American.

I was half-way to typing that I respect him for that. But really, he just did the default common sense decent thing. At least, I guess, he made a stand and said this stuff wasn't true. Something other leaders in the Republican movement seem equivocal, or silent about.

Expect a lot of Repubs saying stuff along the lines of "I was 99% sure", "there were legitimate questions", "I take the president at his word", "I believed it, but didn't know why he was taking so long to tell me what I already knew and never questioned, and also never stated".

Along those lines anyway.