Is money the new "Divine right"

[saxitoxin]

Not to derail this thread, though it does need derailing, however, as an interesting bit of trivia, it wasn't until the 16th century that the last of the European monarchies (with Sweden) became hereditary. After the collapse of Rome in the west, most European states practiced the proto-Norse system of elected monarchies.

So, anyway, the idea of divine right realized through heredity is a relatively modern one, unknown in traditional societies where the will of God was divined through an election ritual rather than a sexual ritual, as with contemporary monarchies. Isn't that great?

Not entirely true, though.

I guess that's why the English language has one word, "m-o-s-t", and another word, with a seperate and distinct meaning, spelled "a-l-l."

Uh.. the point was there is more to the world than Europe..

I guess that's why the English language has one word, "m-o-s-t", and another word, with a seperate and distinct meaning, spelled "a-l-l."

[Night Strike]

If a person does not have the skill set to earn a higher wage, then why should the higher wage just be given to them anyway??

Good... a legitimate question/point!
The question is whether that is actually what happens.

Also, in a more esoteric manner, are people themselves really in full control of their skills. At one extreme, of course not everyone is born equal. Does that mean they have fewer rights? At the other side, is someone living in a good school district more deserving than someone born in a poor one?

If you want to earn a higher wage that requires more skill, then you should go out and learn that skill. You shouldn't just be handed the money/raise anyway.

but CAN people just "go out and learn that skill?" Truly? Can they do that and also support themselves.? More importantly, does everyone have access? Now.. I am arguing esoterics here. In the real world, there is no such thing as perfection. No one will ever have truly equal access to basically anything, but at what point are the differences small enough that we can deal with it?
(note.. I am definitely playing devils advocate there to a large extent).

No, not having a particular skill does not mean you have fewer rights because skills are not rights. Skills are what each individual brings to the table to either get them hired at a particular job or to start their own business. Rights only affect the equal access to the table, they do not guarantee that you can move past the table and into the office (or plant, or other workspace). You have the RIGHT to apply to any job posted in the public sphere (I make the qualification because some specific jobs are only available for promotion within), but you do not have a right to hold that particular job. You don't have the right to hold ANY job for that matter.

[BigBallinStalin]

Do Asian and African nations also subscribe to the theory of "divine right?"

Ask PLAYER. She's a self-made expert on all fields of study.

[thegreekdog]

Do Asian and African nations also subscribe to the theory of "divine right?"

Ask PLAYER. She's a self-made expert on all fields of study.

My question WAS directed at Player. She hasn't answered it yet.

Also, where the f*ck were you today? Could have used your particular brand of... whatever... in the forums.

[BigBallinStalin]

Do Asian and African nations also subscribe to the theory of "divine right?"

Ask PLAYER. She's a self-made expert on all fields of study.

My question WAS directed at Player. She hasn't answered it yet.

Also, where the f*ck were you today? Could have used your particular brand of... whatever... in the forums.

Mardi Gras is more fun than talking to a self-proclaimed know-it-all about medieval history, divine right, and money.


EDIT: haha, I loved that contraception thread. I loved reading people arguing that condoms had to be provided by health insurance because having "free" access to cheap and widely available condoms is a basic health/human right.

Why not argue for the right to free food? That's a more important health concern!

[thegreekdog]

Do Asian and African nations also subscribe to the theory of "divine right?"

Ask PLAYER. She's a self-made expert on all fields of study.

My question WAS directed at Player. She hasn't answered it yet.

Also, where the f*ck were you today? Could have used your particular brand of... whatever... in the forums.

Mardi Gras is more fun than talking to a self-proclaimed know-it-all about medieval history, divine right, and money.

Jokes on you... Mardi Gras means "fat Tuesday." And I have it on good authority that today is Monday. Jerk.

[PLAYER57832]

Do Asian and African nations also subscribe to the theory of "divine right?"

China and Japan subscribed to a more intense view. Their leaders essentially were Gods. I am less familiar with Africa, but Ancient Egypt basically took the same view. However, it should be noted that Egypt was not really a fuedal society in the way of either Europe or Asia.

[PLAYER57832]

Do Asian and African nations also subscribe to the theory of "divine right?"

Ask PLAYER. She's a self-made expert on all fields of study.

Its pretty easy to be more of an expert than a lot of people posting here.

[BigBallinStalin]

Do Asian and African nations also subscribe to the theory of "divine right?"

Ask PLAYER. She's a self-made expert on all fields of study.

Its pretty easy to be more of an expert than a lot of people posting here.

Yes, it is very easy to type something down regardless of how far it stretches from your area of expertise.