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Re: Election Day in America

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:06 am

comic boy wrote:Unless both sides learn to work together , drop dogma for pragmatism, learn to compromise rather than fight , then your country is going to go downhill fast.


I could be mistaken - didn't the UK just schedule a referendum to decide if the entire nation should be dissolved?

Maybe I'm thinking of somewhere else.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby Night Strike on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:07 am

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Night Strike wrote:
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Night Strike wrote:Wow. What a horrible day for the United States and the entire world. Obama may have shown that when liberals own the media and have destroyed the teaching of our Constitutional principles in school, even an incumbent with a worse record than Jimmy Carter and running the most negative campaign in history can still win.


Who is this directed at exactly? Those who voted for Obama? Those who don't care? Those who voted for Romney? The first group is impervious(they just won), the second is oblivious and the last already agrees with you.


Just stating a fact of life. Doesn't matter who it's directed to: it's the reality of what we have before us for the next 4 years. It's going to be all big-government, all the time. And it'll all be unilaterally enacted by Obama because he won't control the House.


Your initial comments were pathetic , show some dignity for goodness sake . This election should be a wake up call for the entire US electorate , your political system is fatally compromised by a degree of polarisation that is untenable . Unless both sides learn to work together , drop dogma for pragmatism, learn to compromise rather than fight , then your country is going to go downhill fast.


As I just posted to someone elsewhere: As I've said for a while now, when one side's position is to cut the size and power of the government while the other side's position is to grow the size and power of the government, where is the middle ground? Growing it at a slower rate than what the one group wants? Moral positions cannot be compromised. If the groups were only deciding WHERE the cuts should be made, then you would have a point. Currently, the discrepancy is over WHETHER cuts should be made, and that's not a position that should be compromised.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby Night Strike on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:09 am

Bones2484 wrote:Hopefully tonight is finally the kick in the ass the GOP needs to change and move closer to the center instead of further to the religious right.

I doubt it will be, but I hope it is. I want to vote Republican, I just can't sacrifice my morals to do so with the platform the party currently supports.


Actually, it's the exact opposite problem. Republicans need to become the TRUE party of the Constitution instead of this big-government-lite that it has been. We need true conservatives and libertarians to be in charge of the party and stand up for constitutional values, not go along with big-government policies.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby patrickaa317 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:09 am

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patrickaa317 wrote:The nation has definitely spoken. As Bill O'Reilly said, people now will vote for who promises them the most. While I am no fan of Obama, he is still the leader of our country for the next four years and I really hope and pray that he can get this country down the right path.

Step 1 is to STOP BORROWING AND SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE.

Either way, it is what it is. Congrats to all the Obama supporters, you ran a tough re-election campaign and the best the Repubs could do was come up with a moderate who couldn't get it done.


People have always voted for who promises them the most :lol: Good post though =D>


Sad isn't it? That 51% of people can always vote everything away from the other 49%.

I think it'd be hilarious if Romney came out and just completely flipped out in his concession speech.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby chang50 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:13 am

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Bones2484 wrote:Hopefully tonight is finally the kick in the ass the GOP needs to change and move closer to the center instead of further to the religious right.

I doubt it will be, but I hope it is. I want to vote Republican, I just can't sacrifice my morals to do so with the platform the party currently supports.


Actually, it's the exact opposite problem. Republicans need to become the TRUE party of the Constitution instead of this big-government-lite that it has been. We need true conservatives and libertarians to be in charge of the party and stand up for constitutional values, not go along with big-government policies.


And never win again?Go for it,Obama loves you guys..
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby comic boy on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:14 am

saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:Unless both sides learn to work together , drop dogma for pragmatism, learn to compromise rather than fight , then your country is going to go downhill fast.


I could be mistaken - didn't the UK just schedule a referendum to decide if the entire nation should be dissolved?

Maybe I'm thinking of somewhere else.


You are mistaken and probably not thinking at all :D
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby patrickaa317 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:17 am

chang50 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:Hopefully tonight is finally the kick in the ass the GOP needs to change and move closer to the center instead of further to the religious right.

I doubt it will be, but I hope it is. I want to vote Republican, I just can't sacrifice my morals to do so with the platform the party currently supports.


Actually, it's the exact opposite problem. Republicans need to become the TRUE party of the Constitution instead of this big-government-lite that it has been. We need true conservatives and libertarians to be in charge of the party and stand up for constitutional values, not go along with big-government policies.


And never win again?Go for it,Obama loves you guys..


Agreed. The days of limited government and constitutional values are over. People no longer care about peach through strength or a balanced budget. Nor is there shame in getting something for nothing; or pride in being successful at what you do. Repubs would have never nominated Romney if they wanted a true believer in limited government.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby patrickaa317 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:18 am

chang50 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:Hopefully tonight is finally the kick in the ass the GOP needs to change and move closer to the center instead of further to the religious right.

I doubt it will be, but I hope it is. I want to vote Republican, I just can't sacrifice my morals to do so with the platform the party currently supports.


Actually, it's the exact opposite problem. Republicans need to become the TRUE party of the Constitution instead of this big-government-lite that it has been. We need true conservatives and libertarians to be in charge of the party and stand up for constitutional values, not go along with big-government policies.


And never win again?Go for it,Obama loves you guys..


Obama doesn't care after today.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:19 am

Neoteny wrote:THE NATION HAS SPOKEN


Meh. Mittens is apparently winning the popular vote. I think "THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE HAS SPOKEN" is more appropriate.

Night Strike wrote:Wow. What a horrible day for the United States and the entire world. Obama may have shown that when liberals own the media and have destroyed the teaching of our Constitutional principles in school, even an incumbent with a worse record than Jimmy Carter and running the most negative campaign in history can still win.


Meh. Four more years of a statist Republican is not going to kill you.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby Frigidus on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:21 am

thegreekdog wrote:
Neoteny wrote:THE NATION HAS SPOKEN


Meh. Mittens is apparently winning the popular vote. I think "THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE HAS SPOKEN" is more appropriate.


Oh, good call. So, Republicans, you still in favor of the electoral college? I think we should get rid of that shit.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:21 am

Ladies and gents, I present to you the shiniest of two turds!
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:21 am

comic boy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:Unless both sides learn to work together , drop dogma for pragmatism, learn to compromise rather than fight , then your country is going to go downhill fast.


I could be mistaken - didn't the UK just schedule a referendum to decide if the entire nation should be dissolved?

Maybe I'm thinking of somewhere else.


You are mistaken and probably not thinking at all :D


Nope, just double-checked. It's the UK.

A bright spot this evening - Angus King the new Senator from Maine, bringing to 2 the number of senators who are not members of the Unified War Party.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby comic boy on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:22 am

patrickaa317 wrote:
comic boy wrote:
patrickaa317 wrote:The nation has definitely spoken. As Bill O'Reilly said, people now will vote for who promises them the most. While I am no fan of Obama, he is still the leader of our country for the next four years and I really hope and pray that he can get this country down the right path.

Step 1 is to STOP BORROWING AND SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE.

Either way, it is what it is. Congrats to all the Obama supporters, you ran a tough re-election campaign and the best the Repubs could do was come up with a moderate who couldn't get it done.


People have always voted for who promises them the most :lol: Good post though =D>


Sad isn't it? That 51% of people can always vote everything away from the other 49%.

I think it'd be hilarious if Romney came out and just completely flipped out in his concession speech.


The same thing happened when Bush jnr won his first term . You have a point but the answer is to develop a third or fourth party , that however leads to concencus politics so we are back to the question of compromise.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby patrickaa317 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:22 am

Frigidus wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Neoteny wrote:THE NATION HAS SPOKEN


Meh. Mittens is apparently winning the popular vote. I think "THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE HAS SPOKEN" is more appropriate.


Oh, good call. So, Republicans, you still in favor of the electoral college? I think we should get rid of that shit.


I think we should break it down like Maine & Nebraska do so everyone's vote means the same. Libs in Texas or Conservs in California votes mean jack shit.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:23 am

Frigidus wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Neoteny wrote:THE NATION HAS SPOKEN


Meh. Mittens is apparently winning the popular vote. I think "THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE HAS SPOKEN" is more appropriate.


Oh, good call. So, Republicans, you still in favor of the electoral college? I think we should get rid of that shit.


Yeah, Republicans are going to go apeshit over that I think. I am tempted to listen to conservative talk radio tomorrow to confirm my theory.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby comic boy on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:26 am

saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:Unless both sides learn to work together , drop dogma for pragmatism, learn to compromise rather than fight , then your country is going to go downhill fast.


I could be mistaken - didn't the UK just schedule a referendum to decide if the entire nation should be dissolved?

Maybe I'm thinking of somewhere else.


You are mistaken and probably not thinking at all :D


Nope, just double-checked. It's the UK.

A bright spot this evening - Angus King the new Senator from Maine, bringing to 2 the number of senators who are not members of the Unified War Party.


Nope sorry old fruit , even if Scotland leaves the UK , no NATION will be destroyed .
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby Neoteny on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:30 am

thegreekdog wrote:
Neoteny wrote:THE NATION HAS SPOKEN


Meh. Mittens is apparently winning the popular vote. I think "THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE HAS SPOKEN" is more appropriate.


Meh. I was just parroting that silly phrase that has been overused since the 2010 election. I plan to use it and some variation of "THE CONSERVATIVE MINDSET HAS BEEN REJECTED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE" about ten to fifteen thousand times over the next two years.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby comic boy on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:31 am

thegreekdog wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Neoteny wrote:THE NATION HAS SPOKEN


Meh. Mittens is apparently winning the popular vote. I think "THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE HAS SPOKEN" is more appropriate.


Oh, good call. So, Republicans, you still in favor of the electoral college? I think we should get rid of that shit.


Yeah, Republicans are going to go apeshit over that I think. I am tempted to listen to conservative talk radio tomorrow to confirm my theory.


Nothing will change though , the 2 parties are happy with the status quo , Turkeys dont vote in favour of thanksgiving !
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:32 am

comic boy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:Unless both sides learn to work together , drop dogma for pragmatism, learn to compromise rather than fight , then your country is going to go downhill fast.


I could be mistaken - didn't the UK just schedule a referendum to decide if the entire nation should be dissolved?

Maybe I'm thinking of somewhere else.


You are mistaken and probably not thinking at all :D


Nope, just double-checked. It's the UK.

A bright spot this evening - Angus King the new Senator from Maine, bringing to 2 the number of senators who are not members of the Unified War Party.


Nope sorry old fruit , even if Scotland leaves the UK , no NATION will be destroyed .


All I'm saying is that the USA hasn't reached the point of serious discussions about splitting apart into smaller, breakaway countries. It's definitely going down the drain but - with the UK already clogging the pipes - it might take a couple flushes.

Anyway, LOL ---

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Re: Election Day in America

Postby Frigidus on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:34 am

saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:Unless both sides learn to work together , drop dogma for pragmatism, learn to compromise rather than fight , then your country is going to go downhill fast.


I could be mistaken - didn't the UK just schedule a referendum to decide if the entire nation should be dissolved?

Maybe I'm thinking of somewhere else.


You are mistaken and probably not thinking at all :D


Nope, just double-checked. It's the UK.

A bright spot this evening - Angus King the new Senator from Maine, bringing to 2 the number of senators who are not members of the Unified War Party.


Nope sorry old fruit , even if Scotland leaves the UK , no NATION will be destroyed .


All I'm saying is that the USA hasn't reached the point of serious discussions about splitting apart into smaller, breakaway countries. It's definitely going down the drain but - with the UK already clogging the pipes - it might take a couple flushes.

Anyway, LOL ---

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Re: Election Day in America

Postby notyou2 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:34 am

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Re: Election Day in America

Postby Frigidus on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:34 am

notyou2 wrote:Where's Phatty?


Under the table.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:39 am

comic boy wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Neoteny wrote:THE NATION HAS SPOKEN


Meh. Mittens is apparently winning the popular vote. I think "THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE HAS SPOKEN" is more appropriate.


Oh, good call. So, Republicans, you still in favor of the electoral college? I think we should get rid of that shit.


Yeah, Republicans are going to go apeshit over that I think. I am tempted to listen to conservative talk radio tomorrow to confirm my theory.


Nothing will change though , the 2 parties are happy with the status quo , Turkeys dont vote in favour of thanksgiving !


That is accurate.
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Re: Election Day in America

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:39 am

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Re: Election Day in America

Postby comic boy on Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:40 am

saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
comic boy wrote:Unless both sides learn to work together , drop dogma for pragmatism, learn to compromise rather than fight , then your country is going to go downhill fast.


I could be mistaken - didn't the UK just schedule a referendum to decide if the entire nation should be dissolved?

Maybe I'm thinking of somewhere else.


You are mistaken and probably not thinking at all :D


Nope, just double-checked. It's the UK.

A bright spot this evening - Angus King the new Senator from Maine, bringing to 2 the number of senators who are not members of the Unified War Party.


Nope sorry old fruit , even if Scotland leaves the UK , no NATION will be destroyed .


All I'm saying is that the USA hasn't reached the point of serious discussions about splitting apart into smaller, breakaway countries. It's definitely going down the drain but - with the UK already clogging the pipes - it might take a couple flushes.

Anyway, LOL ---

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Yes Dear I know what you were attempting to say , just a bit baffled because the referendum came about because the SDP refused to compromise, you are simply reinforcing my point so thank you.
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