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OPEC+ has rebuffed repeated U.S. calls for more crude
Biden under political pressure as inflation picks up
OPEC+ meets on Dec. 2 but no sign of a change of tack
India, Britain detail contributions to oil release
WASHINGTON, Nov 23 (Reuters) - The administration of U.S. President Joe Biden announced on Tuesday it will release millions of barrels of oil from strategic reserves in coordination with China, India, South Korea, Japan and Britain, to try to cool prices after OPEC+ producers repeatedly ignored calls for more crude.
Biden, facing low approval ratings amid rising inflation ahead of next year's congressional elections, has grown frustrated at repeatedly asking the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and its allies, known as OPEC+, to pump more oil without any response.
Crude oil prices recently touched seven-year highs, and consumers are feeling the pain of the increase in fuel costs. Retail gasoline prices are up more than 60% in the last year, the fastest rate of increase since 2000, largely because people have returned to the roads as pandemic-induced restrictions have eased and demand has rebounded.
Under the plan, the United States will release 50 million barrels, the equivalent of about two and a half days of U.S. demand.
This year, the federal government will spend $300 billion on interest payments on the national debt. This is the equivalent of nearly 9 percent of all federal revenue collection and over $2,400 per household. The federal government spends more on interest than on science, space, and technology; transportation; and education combined. The household share of federal interest is larger than average household spending on many typical expenditures, including gas, clothing, education, or personal care.
Despite historically low interest rates, this significant interest cost is the result of high levels of debt. This cost could be even worse if interest rates rise. Each one percent rise in the interest rate would increase FY 2021 interest spending by roughly $225 billion at today’s debt levels. Growing debt levels not only add to the likelihood of such increases, but also the cost and risk associated with them.
With a pen stroke, President Joe Biden cancels Keystone XL pipeline project
The newly inaugurated US president has issued an executive order to cancel the Canadian pipeline project approved by his predecessor. Joe Biden has said climate change will be a big focus of his presidency.
Within hours of taking his oath of office, Joe Biden, the 46th president of the United States, had signed over a dozen executive orders, among them one canceling the permit for the Keystone XL oil and gas pipeline.
jusplay4fun wrote:13) Realize that money BORROWED today has to be paid back with interest payments LATER.
Dukasaur wrote:jusplay4fun wrote:13) Realize that money BORROWED today has to be paid back with interest payments LATER.
This is at the heart of your misunderstanding. Don’t feel bad — a great many other people also misunderstand this concept.
There is no “later” when the money borrowed has to be paid back. The “national debt” is purely an accounting artifice. It’s somewhat similar to the tacking on of “goodwill” when companies overpay to acquire other companies — a purely imaginary number.
Since the widespread switch to fiat currencies 150 years ago or so, I can’t think of any major nation that has actually paid, or even attempted to pay, its “national debt.” It’s a boogeyman. Politicians yell “our children will have to pay for your profligacy!” at their opponent’s spending plans. And guess what? It never happens. Their children don’t pay, nor do their grandchildren, nor their great-grandchildren, nor any of the other future generations threatened with this horrible but completely fictitious fate.
It’s an accounting artifice — an imaginary number that banks carry on their balance sheets, as bogus as their other assets. In the time before fiat currency, some nations did actually have to pay off their debts and were broken in the attempt. The most recent example I can think of is the Kingdom of Naples in the 16th century.
Since the invention of fiat currency, this fate befalls no-one. Our children will not pay the national debt any more than we did. It’s a lovely number that will be carried forward indefinitely, perhaps for millennia, until the nations that created it cease to exist.
18) Note that when I talk about Debt Service, I do not even discuss paying on the PRINCIPAL, only on the Interest payments.
What happens if the U.S. defaults on its debt?
Last Updated: Oct. 2, 2021 at 10:09 a.m. ET
First Published: Sept. 27, 2021 at 12:44 p.m. ET
Many analysts, including Moody’s Analytics Chief Economist Mark Zandi, think it’s highly likely that a financial market freak-out — think of the day in 2008 when Congress initially failed to pass the Troubled Asset Relief Program legislation meant to address the financial crisis — would stop any of the scenarios SIFMA envisions before they happen, or a few minutes after midnight on the day they will.
What Koltun calls a “game of chicken” also may already be denting the economy. The last two times Congress came close to not raising the debt limit, in 2011 and 2013, Moody’s Analytics found, “heightened uncertainty at the time reduced business investment and hiring and weighed heavily on GDP growth. If not for this uncertainty, by mid-2015, real GDP would have been $180 billion, or more than 1%, higher; there would have been 1.2 million more jobs; and the unemployment rate would have been 0.7 percentage point lower.”
Uncertainty rippling through the Treasury market in 2013 cost taxpayers anywhere from $40 million to $70 million, Barclay’s reckons.
During the 19th century and the 20th century up to the beginning of the Second World War, many of the countries of the world owed the UK money for financial debts and needed Pounds Sterling to pay them. And many of those that did not, needed pounds to buy natural resources controlled by the UK and to buy technological goods which were only available from the UK or were most cheaply available from the UK. As a result the Pound formed a good reserve currency because it could be used to settle debts for nearly all international goods and services.
After the Second World War, this was no longer the case. While the UK still controlled many of the world's natural resources, it was deeply indebted and its manufacturing capabilities were damaged. During the next fifty years its manufacturing and debt situations improved but it did not regain its former pre-eminence. Moreover it lost control of the resources markets as its empire dwindled. One consequence was that the pound became less and less useful as a reserve currency as time went on.
In the 21st century the Pound Sterling is still a secondary reserve currency, one of several, but it has been replaced as the primary reserve currency by the US dollar which is used by the World Bank and the IMF to issue much of the world’s international debt and which can now be used to buy all the resources, goods and services which formerly could only have been bought using Pounds Sterling
HitRed wrote:Quick history of the former world reserve currencyDuring the 19th century and the 20th century up to the beginning of the Second World War, many of the countries of the world owed the UK money for financial debts and needed Pounds Sterling to pay them. And many of those that did not, needed pounds to buy natural resources controlled by the UK and to buy technological goods which were only available from the UK or were most cheaply available from the UK. As a result the Pound formed a good reserve currency because it could be used to settle debts for nearly all international goods and services.
After the Second World War, this was no longer the case. While the UK still controlled many of the world's natural resources, it was deeply indebted and its manufacturing capabilities were damaged. During the next fifty years its manufacturing and debt situations improved but it did not regain its former pre-eminence. Moreover it lost control of the resources markets as its empire dwindled. One consequence was that the pound became less and less useful as a reserve currency as time went on.
In the 21st century the Pound Sterling is still a secondary reserve currency, one of several, but it has been replaced as the primary reserve currency by the US dollar which is used by the World Bank and the IMF to issue much of the world’s international debt and which can now be used to buy all the resources, goods and services which formerly could only have been bought using Pounds Sterling
jusplay4fun wrote:Let me address a few issues that Mookie raises.
As far as inflation, there are many causes and to pin ALL the blame on Biden is UNFAIR. I admit that.
However:
Oil and gasoline prices started to go up SOON after President killed the Keystone XL pipeline. Perhaps there are many other factors, BUT oil prices are based on reality and on expectations. Shutting down the pipeline raised expectations** and exacerbated shortages and added to inflationary pressure. Some where already there, but I will argue Biden (and his Administration) and his Congressional allies made that situations MUCH worse.
Oil and gasoline prices ripple through the economy and causes inflation to intensify. [my #1-7]
You say I offer no specifics 8-? and that is you only response? Weak, Mookie. And you offer a rather ridiculous analogy.
Then you jump from 8 to #22? That is rather weak, too.
And you did not counter my SPECIFIC ONE example of AOC (#19) and then unemployment (#20). You ask for specifics and then when I do, you ignore them. What do we make of THAT?
More money via fiscal policy does not help. Look at the M2 data that HitRed provided via a link. That trend line keeps climbing and is causing LOTS of additional and significant inflation NOW, today. And sure, there was pent-up demands, AND fiscal bad policy has NOT helped. In fact, those policies exacerbate inflationary pressures.
And now Biden is playing politics and attempts to show he is doing "something" by releasing a LARGE amount of oil from the Strategic Reserve, which will have almost NO overall impact. Oil and/or gasoline prices declined since his announcement, due to EXPECTATIONS as I already addressed (see ** above).
You apparently want to blame Trump and Bi-partisanship for the current inflation, but realize it was COVID spending that really put LOTS of inflationary pressures on the economy and UNTIL that point your only REAL argument was Tariffs, that I showed was limited to 0.5% and is relatively insignificant.
I think you will concede that Biden will get the blame (rightly or wrongly) for this round of inflation, UNLESS he can turn it around by June 2024. His Policies will not allow that to happen. Thank Goodness that Senator Manchin is putting some brakes on bad economic and fiscal policies by Progressive Democrats (Bernie, AOC, and the rest of the "Squad"). Those are the ones I label as "STOOOPID Democrats."
And if you want a idea of priorities for President Biden, see his list of Signed Executive Orders from Day One of his Administration. (I already referenced that elsewhere in a post, btw.) One of the most egregious examples of BAD POLICIES is the CRISES caused by BIDEN (and worsened by Kamala's inactions) at the US Southern Border.
Again, Virginia voters rejected the attempt by Clinton ALLY Terry McAuliffe to link the Republican Candidate (and winner Glenn Youngkin) to President Trump. We in Virginia rejected the national policies that McAuliffe kept bringing into the race for Governor of Virginia. Of course, McAuliffe made many other mistakes, the biggest one is likely his QUOTED assertion that PARENTS should not tell the School administrators what to teach THEIR children. That may have been McAuliffe's biggest mistake. He made mistakes that cost him his attempt to repeat as Governor (after a four year required time; VA Governors cannot be re-elected immediately after their term.)
McAuliffe ran and won as a pro-business moderate in 2013. He did not use that same model this time in 2021. BIG MISTAKE. He came across as PROGRESSIVE Democrat and that did NOT work, outside his stronghold in parts of Northern Virginia. I think he also failed to inspire significant voter turnout among the black population throughout Virginia.
It appears that Biden is seeing the bad poll numbers and the close election in New Jersey, too, where the incumbent Democrat Governor nearly lost his re-election bid. Biden appears to be getting worried.
I enjoy debating you, too, Mookie. At least we can have a civil discussion, even if we disagree on some things.
Under the new $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan Act of 2021, which was signed into law by President Joe Biden in early March, American workers who are unemployed will receive federal unemployment benefit payments of $300 per week – on top of standard benefit levels – through September 6, 2021.
OPEC oil output rise in October undershoots target - survey
LONDON, Nov 1 (Reuters) - The increase in OPEC's oil output in October fell short of the rise planned under a deal with allies, a Reuters survey found on Monday, as involuntary outages in some smaller producers offset higher supplies from Saudi Arabia and Iraq.
The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) pumped 27.50 million barrels per day (bpd) in October, the survey found, a rise of 190,000 bpd from the previous month but below the 254,000 increase permitted under the supply deal.
OPEC states and their allies, a grouping known as OPEC+, are relaxing output cuts made in 2020 as demand recovers from the coronavirus pandemic, although some members are not delivering the full boosts promised due to a lack of capacity.
The OPEC+ alliance is also wary of pumping too much oil in case of renewed setbacks in the battle against COVID-19.
Nov 6, 2021,10:54am EDT|5,677 views
The Double Irony Of Asking OPEC To Increase Oil Production
As I wrote in February of this year in The Inherent Risks In President Biden’s Energy Plan:
“If we prematurely discourage investment in fossil fuels — and then our dependence doesn't decline as rapidly as the Biden Administration envisions — that is a recipe for shortages, higher prices, and greater dependence on foreign nations for our energy.”
Like the Obama Administration, the Biden Administration initially adopted a relatively hostile position toward the fossil fuel industry. The revocation of the Keystone XL Pipeline permit and the temporary suspension of new oil and gas leases on federal lands were policies that signaled that the Biden Administration wants to move the country away from oil.
President Biden pleaded with OPEC this week to pump more oil. Those pleas were rebuffed, and late in the week Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm called on oil-producing nations to immediately increase crude supplies so people won’t be hurt by high prices this winter.
jusplay4fun wrote:We can debate Correlation vs. Causality, with no real resolution.
Hitred wrote:There is a year or two lag time before inflation hits the retail level. It starts with the money supply, then shows in raw materials, then anything effecting the production process and finally lands on the store shelves.
It’s all baked in. It’s not going away for at least 3 years.
Meanwhile, TC Energy received U.S. approval last year to expand its existing Keystone 590,000-bpd line — located far from the proposed Keystone XL — which would add an additional 170,000 bpd into the U.S. Midwest and Gulf Coast. -so it’s still alive in parts
"We will be over-piped assuming the other pipelines go ahead on schedule," said Wood Mackenzie research director Mark Oberstoetter. "If you add them all up, you can make the argument KXL was not needed."Phase 4 could be overkill
HitRed wrote:Maybe, maybe not. Technology is advancing quickly.
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I was watching some Canadians on YouTube that had struck it rich with Bitcoin. One guy said he bought at 6, 7 and 9 dollars. Now it’s 57,000. Both said they still don’t know what Bitcoin is. One said in 50 years we
may know what Bitcoin is.
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Its very controlled growth rate is appealing. It’s not effected by government spending or borrowing
HitRed wrote:It’s hard to get a clear picture of the status of the pipeline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Keys ... -route.svg
Phase 1 online 2010, Phase 2 online 2011, Phase 3a online 2014 and Phase 3b online 2017. Section 4 from was canceled.
So is Canadian oil moving into the USA?
HitRed
Update
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/01/23/can ... es-record/Meanwhile, TC Energy received U.S. approval last year to expand its existing Keystone 590,000-bpd line — located far from the proposed Keystone XL — which would add an additional 170,000 bpd into the U.S. Midwest and Gulf Coast. -so it’s still alive in parts
"We will be over-piped assuming the other pipelines go ahead on schedule," said Wood Mackenzie research director Mark Oberstoetter. "If you add them all up, you can make the argument KXL was not needed."Phase 4 could be overkill
mookiemcgee wrote:jusplay4fun wrote:We can debate Correlation vs. Causality, with no real resolution.
I guess if you won't admit you are wrong we can. It's pretty clear as day, you haven't really put forward any real counterarguments that hold water against what I've said. You have countered in any way the inflationary pressure of 4 years of constant fiscal stimulus under trump. Yes Covid lit the fuse, but he spent years building the bomb and almost no republicans stood in his way.Hitred wrote:There is a year or two lag time before inflation hits the retail level. It starts with the money supply, then shows in raw materials, then anything effecting the production process and finally lands on the store shelves.
It’s all baked in. It’s not going away for at least 3 years.
Hitred has it right, this isn't debatable... and inflation has ALREADY hit the retail level, and it will continue to get worse.
Getting back to Keystone... did you know the USA was never going to use the Canadian oil? It was going to refine it and ship it overseas, it litterally was going to make American companies some money but not directly affect the US prices on gasoline. Sure it's all tied together, but it's some of the world worst quality oil, and requires a metric ton of refining. For someone who talks so passionately about climate change, I really can't understand why you are so pro-Keystone? Personally I though Keystone a decent idea in say 2013, but it's been dead since the Obama administration killed it and the market had already priced it as such.
Never been a Kamala fan, she's always been all double speak. I don't find her to have much authenticity in her beliefs or any feeling of genuine empathy (probably Joe's single greatest asset as a politician), and I don't find her to be a terribly good politician though clearly some people disagree. She wasn't a great AG, and it was clearly just padding for her resume anyway. She was probably a fine lawyer (as many lawmakers are), but she still reeks of 'I'm a lawyer'. If she ran for president... well I guess it depends on who's shes running against but I would prefer not to vote for her. If it was say her vs John Kasic I would vote for Kasic 100% of the time. If it was Nikki Haley I'd vote for Nikki. If it was like Cruz, DeSantis I would have a really hard time deciding but would probably choose the old white men... if it was Trump I would vote for her 100% of the time.
If it was Mike Pence... who am I kidding it won't be Mike Pence haha.
from the NYTIMESFederal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell Faces Reappointment Amid Tumult
Biden’s Economic Plans Collide With Inflation Reality
President is racing to show he can address rising prices amid mounting anxiety among some advisers ahead of next year’s midterm elections
WASHINGTON—President Biden took office with a raft of economic plans to better position the U.S. to compete on the world stage and jump-start a labor market ravaged by the pandemic. Ten months into his term, Mr. Biden is facing a new set of economic challenges.
The number of Americans seeking unemployment benefits fell to a 52-year low last week, available jobs are trending near record highs and consumer spending is rising. But those positive economic developments have been complicated by supply-chain bottlenecks and the highest inflation in three decades.
What are some of the factors that contribute to a rise in inflation?
October 2002
This is a great question! Inflation rates and speculation about future inflation are mentioned so often in the media that it's important to know some basics about inflation.
Biden’s Nearly $2 Trillion Social Spending and Climate Bill Is a Boon for Unions
Business groups plan to push back on a prevailing wage rule and other measures when the bill goes to the Senate
WASHINGTON—President Biden’s nearly $2 trillion spending bill passed by the House is stocked with benefits for organized labor, including a measure aimed at helping unionized companies win billions of dollars in new green-energy projects.
The legislation also has labor-backed measures to raise fines for violations of workplace safety and other rules, expands funding for home-care services provided by union workers and allows union members to write off some of their dues.
riskllama wrote:only person YELLING in here is YOU, jp - try to keep it cogers, pls.
bigtoughralf wrote:riskllama wrote:only person YELLING in here is YOU, jp - try to keep it cogers, pls.
Looks like you've persuaded him to switch from block caps to bold text. Good job, llama.
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