Ron Paul

[The Weird One]

If someone tied me up and made me vote Republican he would have my vote.

so, what you're saying is that no matter who the other candidates are, [example being they were all megalomaniacs] you still wouldn't vote republican just because
a.) you're a registered democrat
or
b.) one asshole president who just happens to be republican
or
c.) all of the above

I don't know you're reasoning, so, please, explain.

[xtratabasco]

He sure did. I loved it.

Did you know everyone that was interviewed by Colbert won their congress elections?

very good

[xtratabasco]

Ron Pauls portion of the last debate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjnT1EyUfkQ

[Titanic]

If Xtra likes him, he cant be a nice guy.

[got tonkaed]

If Xtra likes him, he cant be a nice guy.

he actually comes off as fairly likeable on tv, and you probably wouldnt be able to guess at first glance that he has some somewhat non mainstream views.

[xtratabasco]

If Xtra likes him, he cant be a nice guy.

he actually comes off as fairly likeable on tv, and you probably wouldnt be able to guess at first glance that he has some somewhat non mainstream views.

yeah kind of like our fore fathers.

sounds wonderfull.

[btownmeggy]

If someone tied me up and made me vote Republican he would have my vote.

so, what you're saying is that no matter who the other candidates are, [example being they were all megalomaniacs] you still wouldn't vote republican just because
a.) you're a registered democrat
or
b.) one asshole president who just happens to be republican
or
c.) all of the above

I don't know you're reasoning, so, please, explain.

Parties exist for a reason. Though they often represent people with a very wide range of opinions on various issues, these party constituents tend to be united in many or even most of their core values and positions. As a Democrat, there is no Democratic candidate (for any government position that I know of) whose political opinions overlap completely with mine, but nearly every single Democratic politician, even most pro-life fundamentalist state representatives from Mississippi, is more politically aligned with me than the average Republican.

[Tyr]

Ron paul is exactly what we need

[xtratabasco]

http://tinyurl.com/35uzyo

[Norse]

If Xtra likes him, he cant be a nice guy.

Nice reasoning tit.

It's a bit like me saying "I dont like the idea of wearing a rag on my head, so therefore all sikhs are stupid"

And that just wouldnt be cricket, now would it?

[DaGip]

This is a link to Ron Paul's interview on Bill Maher

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4600

Republicans should vote Ron Paul. Don't be fooled by war propagandists.

[Titanic]

If Xtra likes him, he cant be a nice guy.

Nice reasoning tit.

It's a bit like me saying "I dont like the idea of wearing a rag on my head, so therefore all sikhs are stupid"

And that just wouldnt be cricket, now would it?

Good job on the racism, but what I said was nothing like that. Xtra likes his because of his personal beliefs, which I totally despise, so I know I wont like whatever he says.

Also, your statement makes no sense, apart from being racist of course. Just because you may not like an idea, it does not make it stupid. Btw, its not a rag and its a religious necessity, so try to have some respect.

[xtratabasco]

8 minute video about who Ron Paul is


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA

[DaGip]

Republicans love DaGip! So they should listen to him! VOTE RON PAUL!

[riggable]

I've been listening and reading up on Ron Paul and I must say he does have some compelling points. Unfortunatly, basically all the things i've been watching and reading have been Pro-Ron Paul in the first place, so I think I'm seeing a One-sided picture. If someone, who actually understand and actually is informed about this, could please give me the argument as to why voting Ron Paul is a bad idea, that would be great.
I'm asking for the common answer for this question, you don't have to agree with it, if you don't want to. Thanks.

[xtratabasco]

8 minute video about who Ron Paul is


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA

Here is another quick vid http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/oc ... arlson.htm


also you can type ron paul in ebays search engine and buy buttons, bumper stickers and even a 1 oz 20 dollar silver coin thats a nice as a proof coin (i got it today) and most of the sellers are donating the money to his canpaign efforts.

[riggable]

I've been listening and reading up on Ron Paul and I must say he does have some compelling points. Unfortunatly, basically all the things i've been watching and reading have been Pro-Ron Paul in the first place, so I think I'm seeing a One-sided picture. If someone, who actually understand and actually is informed about this, could please give me the argument as to why voting Ron Paul is a bad idea, that would be great.
I'm asking for the common answer for this question, you don't have to agree with it, if you don't want to. Thanks.

anyone?

[jay_a2j]

OK, this is what my new sig was supposed to say but had to be shortened to fit.


"Well, I've been googling Ron Paul. Watched his debates and have come to the conclusion if we want real change in Washington, Ron Paul is the way to go. I'd rather "waste" a vote on someone who stands for something than to give it to someone who will become a puppet of politics. I'm sick of voting against someone instead of for someone. Paul is a guy I can stand behind. So February 3rd there will be a vote cast for Ron Paul in my name. (And I expect to sleep well that night)"

[DaGip]

OK, this is what my new sig was supposed to say but had to be shortened to fit.


"Well, I've been googling Ron Paul. Watched his debates and have come to the conclusion if we want real change in Washington, Ron Paul is the way to go. I'd rather "waste" a vote on someone who stands for something than to give it to someone who will become a puppet of politics. I'm sick of voting against someone instead of for someone. Paul is a guy I can stand behind. So February 3rd there will be a vote cast for Ron Paul in my name. (And I expect to sleep well that night)"

Your vote is not wasted, but first, you have to speak to Republicans and get them to vote Ron Paul. Ron Paul made the statement that he would not seek a third party ticket, that will pretty much leave us with two choices (just like every year)...those choices will probably be Hillary and Giulliani--although, Fred Thompson is picking up support.

One thing that really pisses me off, is the fact that Ron Paul isn't even mentioned as a candidate anymore on the news...what is wrong with this picture?

Every candidate says what they will do with "The War" when they get elected...Ron Paul is the ONLY one that talked about POLICY CHANGE. Ron Paul was the ONLY one to talk about getting our asses out of that "cake walk" and bring our troops back to protect our nation! How are we exactly protecting our nation when we are way the hell over in the MiddleEast? We can not win a war by FORCING people into believing what we want them to believe! It doesn't work! It never has worked! The people there have to WANT those beliefs and be willing to fight for them! And the only way that that will happen is if the USA gets the hell out of there!

Obama wants to attack Pakistan! Hillary will continue The War just like Bush wants (don't be fooled, the Republicans in power WANT Hillary to be Prez, shit...Bush is even cleaning the White House up for Hillary's take over).

The only candidate that made any real sense in debates was Ron Paul. Ron Paul is pro-American, pro-Constitution, anti-Fed, and anti-War. Sounds like a Republican to me!

Vote Ron Paul!

[Titanic]

OK, this is what my new sig was supposed to say but had to be shortened to fit.


"Well, I've been googling Ron Paul. Watched his debates and have come to the conclusion if we want real change in Washington, Ron Paul is the way to go. I'd rather "waste" a vote on someone who stands for something than to give it to someone who will become a puppet of politics. I'm sick of voting against someone instead of for someone. Paul is a guy I can stand behind. So February 3rd there will be a vote cast for Ron Paul in my name. (And I expect to sleep well that night)"

Your vote is not wasted, but first, you have to speak to Republicans and get them to vote Ron Paul. Ron Paul made the statement that he would not seek a third party ticket, that will pretty much leave us with two choices (just like every year)...those choices will probably be Hillary and Giulliani--although, Fred Thompson is picking up support.

One thing that really pisses me off, is the fact that Ron Paul isn't even mentioned as a candidate anymore on the news...what is wrong with this picture?

Every candidate says what they will do with "The War" when they get elected...Ron Paul is the ONLY one that talked about POLICY CHANGE. Ron Paul was the ONLY one to talk about getting our asses out of that "cake walk" and bring our troops back to protect our nation! How are we exactly protecting our nation when we are way the hell over in the MiddleEast? We can not win a war by FORCING people into believing what we want them to believe! It doesn't work! It never has worked! The people there have to WANT those beliefs and be willing to fight for them! And the only way that that will happen is if the USA gets the hell out of there!

Obama wants to attack Pakistan! Hillary will continue The War just like Bush wants (don't be fooled, the Republicans in power WANT Hillary to be Prez, shit...Bush is even cleaning the White House up for Hillary's take over).

The only candidate that made any real sense in debates was Ron Paul. Ron Paul is pro-American, pro-Constitution, anti-Fed, and anti-War. Sounds like a Republican to me!

Vote Ron Paul!

Protect your country? From whom exactly? Which country is preparing to attack US homeland atm? You dont need all your troops in your own country, theres no need. You've got enough there, and you've got the national guard as well, "just incase someone decide to attack you".

Btw, if he is not mentioned as a candidate, its because he does not have enough support from voters and politicians.

[got tonkaed]

OK, this is what my new sig was supposed to say but had to be shortened to fit.


"Well, I've been googling Ron Paul. Watched his debates and have come to the conclusion if we want real change in Washington, Ron Paul is the way to go. I'd rather "waste" a vote on someone who stands for something than to give it to someone who will become a puppet of politics. I'm sick of voting against someone instead of for someone. Paul is a guy I can stand behind. So February 3rd there will be a vote cast for Ron Paul in my name. (And I expect to sleep well that night)"

jay this doesnt seem consistent with a fair amount of your foriegn policy views in the past.

[Backglass]

OK, this is what my new sig was supposed to say but had to be shortened to fit.


"Well, I've been googling Ron Paul. Watched his debates and have come to the conclusion if we want real change in Washington, Ron Paul is the way to go. I'd rather "waste" a vote on someone who stands for something than to give it to someone who will become a puppet of politics. I'm sick of voting against someone instead of for someone. Paul is a guy I can stand behind. So February 3rd there will be a vote cast for Ron Paul in my name. (And I expect to sleep well that night)"

Huh? But you LOVE the Iraq "conflict"...remember? All the evildoers we are eliminating, etc?

"The constant call for "cutting and running" is a lose/ lose proposition. If we do pull our troops the aftermath of such action would be almost incomprehensible." - jay_a2j

Why the flip-flop Jay?

[got tonkaed]

Huh? But you LOVE the Iraq "conflict"...remember? All the evildoers we are eliminating, etc?



"The constant call for "cutting and running" is a lose/ lose proposition. If we do pull our troops the aftermath of such action would be almost incomprehensible." - jay_a2j

Why the change of stance?

i clearly said this in the post before you sir....just messing.

[Backglass]

Huh? But you LOVE the Iraq "conflict"...remember? All the evildoers we are eliminating, etc?



"The constant call for "cutting and running" is a lose/ lose proposition. If we do pull our troops the aftermath of such action would be almost incomprehensible." - jay_a2j

Why the flip-flop Jay?

i clearly said this in the post before you sir....just messing.

I was composing while you were posting.

[got tonkaed]

I guess the question id pose for ron paul supports is...

if elected how effective do you feel he would be in coming through on his promises. After all a lot of the limiting government measures he is attempting to take on, would find harsh if not complete resistance. Although the next president will likely have more executive authority than those in the past, how effective do you think he can be at elminating some of the government agencies that he feels are ineffective. If he cannot do a lot of these things are you running a risk of voting for a rather lame duckish president?