Best band of the 90's

[Guiscard]

GnR was busy shitting their pants after 93 they are out. I voted Radiohead because they were and always will be amazing because they are always transforming and bringing in fresh music as any band that survives for a long time does.

Oasis destroys everyone else on the list.

And you also forgot Wu-Tang Clan. "Enter the Wu-Tang 36 Chambers" + "Wu-Tang Forever" both released in the 90's, both arguably the best albums in their genre ever, every track on each a great song and no filler. Then if you want to include all of the solo albums of the members released in the 90's that were also amazing albums:

"Liquid Swords"
"Uncontrolled Substance"
"Return to the 36 chambers"
"Ironman"
"Tical"
"Bobby Digital in Stereo"
"Only Built 4 Cuban Lynx"

The only problem is this is best band of the 90's. I guess Wu-Tang is a group and not a band haha. It's really too bad that hip-hop went down the shitter after the early 2000's. There's a couple good groups/people still out there but you have to dig through miles of shit to get to them, Wu-Tang is still goin, MF Doom, Madlib/Quasimoto, Jurassic 5, Beastie Boys, Gang Starr is still goin too I believe........ How I wish 90's hip hop was back, before dirty south and the word "crunk" and teenage girls ruined the industry. What's played nowadays on "rap/hip-hop" stations is not rap or hip-hop, it's club music. If you look at most 90's east coast rap, it's poetry, the lyrics have meaning, they use metaphors and allegories and other literary elements. You can't play it in a club because you can't dance to it, it usually wasn't a beat that flowed in a dancing sense. Thats not what it's for. This shit now like 50 cent and Soulja Boy is illiterate, simpleton, club music hi-jacking the title of rap/hip-hop. Good thing England is around to keep producing great rock bands or else I'd really go off.

I approve of this post whole heartedly. But don't give up on modern hip-hop just yet, there's still some great stuff coming out. If you haven't already, check out K'naan, Blue Scholars, Son of Ran, J. Medieros...

As for best band of the 90s... I'd be tempted to say Rancid, you know? The 90s output was the soundtrack to my early years.

[Phil1580]

Pearl Jam, without a doubt. Also one of the few on the list still kicking ass. I love GNR, but I think they only have one truly great album, and that came out in 1987 I believe....happy debating all, great poll.

[DAZMCFC]

i voted other, as there is only Nirvana on there that i like.


where is the Verve. Richard Ashcroft is immense.

[reminisco]

I love the roots, one of the best live shows I've seen. must have slipped my mind. It's 1 am here hah.

I still like Wu-Tang better and think they are a better group(just preference I guess). I see groups and collectives as the same thing: at least 2 emcees that rap together on most tracks, ie. Wu-Tang, A Tribe Called Quest, Outkast, Beastie Boys. I see Bands as a group that have the more traditional breakdown, Lead singer "black thought" Drummer "?uestlove" Bassist and Keyboards(can't remember their names, haha). etc. and they play their own instruments. So I'd have to agree The Roots is the best hip-hop BAND to record. It's good to see there are people out there still listening to good hip-hop

yeah, i agree 100%, along those distinctions we both hashed out. and yeah, i've been into the Roots since Illadelph Halflife dropped in 1995. whereas i've liked Wu-Tang since 36 Chambers in 93 (raw i'ma give to ya with no trivia/ raw like cocaine straight from Bolivia/ my hip hop will rock and shock the nation like the emancipation proclamation.)

also, if you like hip hop collectives (or groups, whatever it is we're gonna call 'em), do you like Jedi Mind Tricks (also out of Philly) or Slum Village?

both excellent acts, worth checking out if you haven't.

[reminisco]

some Jedi Mind Tricks, to expose you:

(beware, some of Vinnie Paz's lyrics can be rather "gangsta" to the extreme. i often describe them as Angry Islamic Rap to friends -- i do not agree with a lot of Vinnie's politics or views on homosexuals, women, or Christians... but Stoupe the Enemy of Mankind -- the DJ -- drops beats that hearken to the glory days of RZA, and when Vinnie nails it, he nails it.)

here's a track with GZA guesting (On the Eve of War):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eaTNnN1Ph8

here's a phenomenal song (Uncommon Valor: A Vietnam Story -- one of those cases where Vinnie nails it, feat. RA The Rugged Man):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r0KpWMNxnM

this one is pretty damn intense/gangsta (When All Light Dies)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko0CKv-jyWU

and two more, songs that work beautifully, with both beats and the rhymes. (Razorblade Salvation and Black Winter Day)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgAR1Dgpg_U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=564d3daeP-0

[Colossus]

First of all, Oasis is bunch of fairies.

I can't believe that Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, and Smashing Pumpkins haven't gotten more love. They are my three favorite on the list, followed by Nirvana and Pearl Jam. After Nirvana, these three are probably the most influential bands on the list, for sure. Pearl Jam is awesome, but I don't think it's been particularly influential. GnR is awesome, but they're totally an 80's band, in my opinion. And NIN is also kick-ass. Trent Reznor is a genius. And how is Rage Against the Machine not on the list?? They rock.

[Snorri1234]

some Jedi Mind Tricks, to expose you:

(beware, some of Vinnie Paz's lyrics can be rather "gangsta" to the extreme. i often describe them as Angry Islamic Rap to friends -- i do not agree with a lot of Vinnie's politics or views on homosexuals, women, or Christians... but Stoupe the Enemy of Mankind -- the DJ -- drops beats that hearken to the glory days of RZA, and when Vinnie nails it, he nails it.)

here's a track with GZA guesting (On the Eve of War):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eaTNnN1Ph8

here's a phenomenal song (Uncommon Valor: A Vietnam Story -- one of those cases where Vinnie nails it, feat. RA The Rugged Man):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r0KpWMNxnM

this one is pretty damn intense/gangsta (When All Light Dies)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko0CKv-jyWU

and two more, songs that work beautifully, with both beats and the rhymes. (Razorblade Salvation and Black Winter Day)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgAR1Dgpg_U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=564d3daeP-0

Awesome shit man.

[Guiscard]

some Jedi Mind Tricks, to expose you:

(beware, some of Vinnie Paz's lyrics can be rather "gangsta" to the extreme. i often describe them as Angry Islamic Rap to friends -- i do not agree with a lot of Vinnie's politics or views on homosexuals, women, or Christians... but Stoupe the Enemy of Mankind -- the DJ -- drops beats that hearken to the glory days of RZA, and when Vinnie nails it, he nails it.)

here's a track with GZA guesting (On the Eve of War):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eaTNnN1Ph8

here's a phenomenal song (Uncommon Valor: A Vietnam Story -- one of those cases where Vinnie nails it, feat. RA The Rugged Man):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r0KpWMNxnM

this one is pretty damn intense/gangsta (When All Light Dies)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko0CKv-jyWU

and two more, songs that work beautifully, with both beats and the rhymes. (Razorblade Salvation and Black Winter Day)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgAR1Dgpg_U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=564d3daeP-0

Been into Jedi Minds for a long while, but I do have a bit of a problem squaring some of the more extreme rhymes with what I actually believe in... Have you heard Army of Pharoahs? A 'supergroup' if ever there were one.

[reminisco]

Been into Jedi Minds for a long while, but I do have a bit of a problem squaring some of the more extreme rhymes with what I actually believe in... Have you heard Army of Pharoahs? A 'supergroup' if ever there were one.

yeah, i almost stopped listening to them after hearing 'Verses of the Bleeding' -- but i understand it's largely hyperbole and poetry. not his stating that he actually wants to kill me because i'm a Christian.

(and no, i am not an evangelist, or a holy roller, or anything of the other sects that get all kinds of attention for being douche bags. i was just raised Presbyterian, and see no reason to be ashamed of that, nor told that i should be killed because of that. but again... why i call it Angry Islamic Rap...)

and yeah, Army of Pharoahs is tight.

one more thing. a lot of the rhymes in hip hop reference local establishments people from outside the area might not understand -- Vinnie will often reference Rahway State Prison -- a big prison in New Jersey, similar to Ossing or Rikers Island in terms of notoriety and danger. so now you know. and that's half the battle.

[SolidLuigi]

Yeah I've heard some of Jedi Mind Tricks, they are good, haven't heard all on that list though, thanks. To guiscard, I'll check out some of those groups. I've heard some Son of Ran but none of the others. To be honest, I did give up a little on hip-hop and kinda stuck to what I've got in hip-hop. Also my other music interests in rock and electronic music keep me occupied also so I haven't been doing a lot of digging lately. Another modern rapper I like who has actually became closer to singing instead of rapping is K-OS. Joyful Rebellion is a great album.

[Snorri1234]

Yeah I've heard some of Jedi Mind Tricks, they are good, haven't heard all on that list though, thanks. To guiscard, I'll check out some of those groups. I've heard some Son of Ran but none of the others. To be honest, I did give up a little on hip-hop and kinda stuck to what I've got in hip-hop. Also my other music interests in rock and electronic music keep me occupied also so I haven't been doing a lot of digging lately. Another modern rapper I like who has actually became closer to singing instead of rapping is K-OS. Joyful Rebellion is a great album.

How about Common?

[SolidLuigi]

yeah, I've always liked him, I didn't classify him as new though because I first heard him in 99. I saw a show that was him and Talib Kweli, awesome show

another good one I haven't heard from in a while is Blackalicious

[reminisco]

yeah, I've always liked him, I didn't classify him as new though because I first heard him in 99. I saw a show that was him and Talib Kweli, awesome show

another good one I haven't heard from in a while is Blackalicious

Talib Kweli is prolly my favourite solo artist. i saw him on the Reflection Eternal tour, way back in 2001, i think it was, with DJ Hi-Tek... and then i saw BlackStar a couple years ago. it was a cool show. Mos Def did a set, then BlackStar did a set, then Talib Kweli did a set. oh, and with Jean Grae opening. good shit, good shit.

Common is good. 'Like Water for Chocolate' was big with everyone who worked on the student paper in college. that's how i first got into him. oddly, i'm not such a big Common fan. i like his work, but i prefer the other artists from the Chicago metro area, and the underground scene out there he helped open up to national attention. (like Atmosphere)

Blackalicious is allright, in my mind. i really liked that track 'Chemical Calisthenics', -- i have a copy of The Craft, but i don't think i've ever listened to it all the way through. i really out to give it a fair chance.

K-OS is good. speaking of which, i really liked Gnarls Barkley. C-Lo and Dangermouse were a perfect combination for that kind of album. Gnarls was a great live show. check it out if any of you have a chance.

Cadence Weapon is good. new on the block. here's some Cadence the below mp3s come from his official website:

http://www.cadenceweaponmusic.com/audio ... Sharks.mp3

http://www.cadenceweaponmusic.com/audio ... k_Hand.mp3

[reminisco]

here's a Cadence Weapon video -- for Sharks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gecCt0F_6nM

good, low-budget, indie production.

[Guiscard]

Yeah I've heard some of Jedi Mind Tricks, they are good, haven't heard all on that list though, thanks. To guiscard, I'll check out some of those groups. I've heard some Son of Ran but none of the others. To be honest, I did give up a little on hip-hop and kinda stuck to what I've got in hip-hop. Also my other music interests in rock and electronic music keep me occupied also so I haven't been doing a lot of digging lately. Another modern rapper I like who has actually became closer to singing instead of rapping is K-OS. Joyful Rebellion is a great album.

Yeh. I especially rate Blue Scholars. Fucking immense output if you like intelligent hip-hop. And I rate K-OS too.

If you don't already, I'd really recommend subscribing to the Indiefeed Hip-Hop podcast (hosted by Dirty Dutch). Found a few good artists through there recently. If you're into instrumental RJD2 type stuff, check Memo. Davis and Lovelace is a good tune to start with.

[ParadiceCity9]

Yeh, definitely GNR here.

[KiwiTaker]

4 words. Rage Against the Machine.

[SolidLuigi]

Yeah I've heard some of Jedi Mind Tricks, they are good, haven't heard all on that list though, thanks. To guiscard, I'll check out some of those groups. I've heard some Son of Ran but none of the others. To be honest, I did give up a little on hip-hop and kinda stuck to what I've got in hip-hop. Also my other music interests in rock and electronic music keep me occupied also so I haven't been doing a lot of digging lately. Another modern rapper I like who has actually became closer to singing instead of rapping is K-OS. Joyful Rebellion is a great album.

Yeh. I especially rate Blue Scholars. Fucking immense output if you like intelligent hip-hop. And I rate K-OS too.

If you don't already, I'd really recommend subscribing to the Indiefeed Hip-Hop podcast (hosted by Dirty Dutch). Found a few good artists through there recently. If you're into instrumental RJD2 type stuff, check Memo. Davis and Lovelace is a good tune to start with.

Cool thanks, yeah I just saw RJD2 live back in october. Good shit

[suggs]

4 words. Rage Against the Machine.

f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck.
Fiddle.

How could i forget RAGE? Certainly in the top three bands of the nineties, and the first album may well be THE greatest album of all time.
Good skills Kiwi.

Respect to the lads for this-their official music vid for the single was DONE LIVE-and they sound incredible-love the reverb on his voice near the end. Haunting.

RAGEAGAINST

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

GNR was an 80s band who continued to sputter into the 90s.

shouldn't be in this poll.

Axl is COMING BACK!

Like I already said. GNR by far is the best group of all time, but this chinese democracy album is horrible and without Slash its just not the same. also, Slash without Axl is even worse.

[suggs]

GNR was an 80s band who continued to sputter into the 90s.

shouldn't be in this poll.

Axl is COMING BACK!

Like I already said. GNR by far is the best group of all time, but this chinese democracy album is horrible and without Slash its just not the same. also, Slash without Axl is even worse.

Johnny, you could play the guitar better than Slash-and we all know you haven't even got opposable thumbs.

[khazalid]

the magnetic fields, surely.

[cena-rules]

oasis

[InkL0sed]

I had to remove Rage Against the Machine, Oasis, and Sublime. Too many options.

By the way, I don't think I mentioned yet; I voted for Radiohead.

[reminisco]

for the record, i was one of the 2 to vote for Smashing Pumpkins.

i wonder who the other was...