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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:19 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Gregrios wrote:
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Gregrios wrote:Atheists of CC, what's your deal anyway? :?

I mean seriously, why are you guys so determined to hold on to a fantasy that gives humans no credit whatsoever? :shock:

Basically you're saying that our very existence is a big mistake caused by a big black hole. :roll:

Did I miss anything? :ugeek:

....or is this just the opinion you have on CC? 8-)


Atheists just oppose the belief that a delusion, when shared by a large enough number of people, becomes a truth.


....but why do you cling to this opinion when the exact same can be said about disbelief? :^o


Nope, disbelief is based on a total lack of evidence that point toward God's existence and on the fact that smart people don't waste their time and energy believing in things just because they can't conclusively prove the opposite. Otherwise we would have to believe that Satan invented bread, that after death we go back in time and reincarnate as as little prehistoric rodents and that the world is going to end next Friday when Giant Pink Space Mouse will come and start nibbling on Earth.

Frigidus wrote:Question. Even if this God existed, why worship it? Just because it's "superior" to us does not make it deserving of our fealty. It's not like animals worship us, right? And just because he "created" us doesn't make him worthy of our respect. Hell, parents create people all the time and a good deal of them are fuckups. So why worship this supposed being? Is it because he threatens to torture you otherwise? Surely you don't believe his bull shit "I love you" bit? Oh yes, he loves you...assuming you bend to his will of course. Sounds like a ruthless dictator to me.

The idea that you consider me cattle is slightly annoying. I take comfort in the fact that I'm 99.999999999% positive that you're wrong.


Well said Frigidus. =D>


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Re: CC atheists!

Postby joecoolfrog on Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:29 am

Gregrios wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
Gregrios wrote:Atheists of CC, what's your deal anyway? :?

I mean seriously, why are you guys so determined to hold on to a fantasy that gives humans no credit whatsoever? :shock:

how does believing in god give humans credit?


Are you seriously asking that question? :?

Well it's simple. A world under God has extreme purpose opposed to a world under nothing but our own assumptions and opinions has no real purpose at all. ;)

....but the point of this thread is not to hear my opinion. The point is to hear the opinion of atheists on CC. [-X

Next! 8-)


Atheist opinion ; As well as being deluded you are clearly not very intelligent, such an unfortunate combination might have me grasping for straws also. :cry: :cry:
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Nickbaldwin on Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:55 am

Gregrios wrote:Ummmmm yeaaaaah, I probably should have told you guys this earlier. :?

I'm done with this thread. ;)

By all means, continue with your spamming. =D>

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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Pedronicus on Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:33 am

Q: What is the recipe for life?

Andy Knoll: The recipe for life is not that complicated. There are a limited number of elements inside your body. Most of your mass is carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, sulfur, plus some nitrogen and phosphorous. There are a couple dozen other elements that are in there in trace amounts, but to a first approximation you're just a bag of carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen.

Now, it turns out that the atmosphere is a bag of carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen as well, and it's not living. So the real issue here is, how do you take that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere (or methane in an early atmosphere) and water vapor and other sources of hydrogen—how do you take those simple, inorganic precursors and make them into the building blocks of life?

There was a famous experiment done by Stanley Miller when he was a graduate student at the University of Chicago in the early 1950s. Miller essentially put methane, or natural gas, ammonia, hydrogen gas, and water vapor into a beaker. That wasn't a random mixture; at the time he did the experiment, that was at least one view of what the primordial atmosphere would have looked like.

Then he did a brilliant thing. He simply put an electric charge through that mixture to simulate lightning going through an early atmosphere. After sitting around for a couple of days, all of a sudden there was this brown goo all over the reaction vessel. When he analyzed what was in the vessel, rather than only having methane and ammonia, he actually had amino acids, which are the building blocks of proteins. In fact, he had them in just about the same proportions you would find if you looked at organic matter in a meteorite. So the chemistry that Miller was discovering in this wonderful experiment was not some improbable chemistry, but a chemistry that is widely distributed throughout our solar system.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Backglass on Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:23 am

Gregrios wrote:Why do you so desperately hold on to a theory that has more holes in it than a donut shop? :?


So says the boy who believes in fairy's. :lol:

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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Snorri1234 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:16 am

Ditocoaf wrote:Besides, if we're assuming that such a being would take on the exact form, history, and behavior that Christians believe it would, then it's probably worthy of our worship,


It would also implode out of logically contradicting itself.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Frigidus on Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:20 pm

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Ditocoaf wrote:Besides, if we're assuming that such a being would take on the exact form, history, and behavior that Christians believe it would, then it's probably worthy of our worship,


It would also implode out of logically contradicting itself.


No, no, see, the contradicting parts are metaphorical. Don't worry about it.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby deronimo on Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:10 pm

Gregrios wrote:Atheists of CC, what's your deal anyway? :?


Gergrios, you wasted your time with this topic because it was already done months ago and if I remember correctly the childish option won. People have already decided how they think CC atheists act. You didn't have to bring it up again.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:36 pm

deronimo wrote:
Gregrios wrote:Atheists of CC, what's your deal anyway? :?


Gergrios, you wasted your time with this topic because it was already done months ago and if I remember correctly the childish option won. People have already decided how they think CC atheists act. You didn't have to bring it up again.


I was so disappointed that "elitist" didn't win.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby DaGip on Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:20 pm

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Re: CC atheists!

Postby joecoolfrog on Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:29 pm

deronimo wrote:
Gregrios wrote:Atheists of CC, what's your deal anyway? :?


Gergrios, you wasted your time with this topic because it was already done months ago and if I remember correctly the childish option won. People have already decided how they think CC atheists act. You didn't have to bring it up again.


Of course believing in omnipotent supernatural beings and demons is extremely childish but
most of us Atheists are far too polite to mention the fact, thanks though for acknowledging our more mature and logical strain of thought.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby DaGip on Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:33 pm

I believe in Aliens with multidimensional mind control machines...thusly, "demonic possession"... Possession has never been by 'demon's but by aliens using their version of a PS3 or a Nintendo Wii.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby rubicon on Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:43 pm

You want arguments against God's existence read Hume, Dawkins, etc. You want arguments for his existence read Platinga, Aquinas, etc. You know where you don't look to find the answers to these types questions? A: a fucking message board.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Frigidus on Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:46 pm

rubicon wrote:You want arguments against God's existence read Hume, Dawkins, etc. You want arguments for his existence read Platinga, Aquinas, etc. You know where you don't look to find the answers to these types questions? A: a fucking message board.


But blindly listening to the opinions of the "great" is the reason we have this problem in the first place. How about we think for ourselves? Hell, if our opinion on the nature of the universe can be discovered by reading a book, why don't we just pick our favorite politician and take on all his political ideals? After all, who are we to think and debate about such things?
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby joecoolfrog on Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:51 pm

rubicon wrote:You want arguments against God's existence read Hume, Dawkins, etc. You want arguments for his existence read Platinga, Aquinas, etc. You know where you don't look to find the answers to these types questions? A: a fucking message board.


How can I mock retards by simply reading a book :?
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby protectedbygold on Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:53 pm

deronimo wrote:
Gregrios wrote:Atheists of CC, what's your deal anyway? :?


Gergrios, you wasted your time with this topic because it was already done months ago and if I remember correctly the childish option won. People have already decided how they think CC atheists act. You didn't have to bring it up again.


Actually it was the 'arrogant' option that won that poll

Just another point though, most atheists don't behave the way the ones on this site do. I've got friends who believe in God and those who don't. They're both able to act civil towards each other. I tend to believe that there isn't a god but don't try to ridicule those who do.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby rubicon on Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:59 pm

Frigidus wrote:
rubicon wrote:You want arguments against God's existence read Hume, Dawkins, etc. You want arguments for his existence read Platinga, Aquinas, etc. You know where you don't look to find the answers to these types questions? A: a fucking message board.


But blindly listening to the opinions of the "great" is the reason we have this problem in the first place. How about we think for ourselves? Hell, if our opinion on the nature of the universe can be discovered by reading a book, why don't we just pick our favorite politician and take on all his political ideals? After all, who are we to think and debate about such things?


Well, if you are able to comprehend the concepts presented in the works i mentioned, I would assume that you have to intelligence to form your own opinions regarding the validity of them, dick.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:00 pm

protectedbygold wrote:
deronimo wrote:
Gregrios wrote:Atheists of CC, what's your deal anyway? :?


Gergrios, you wasted your time with this topic because it was already done months ago and if I remember correctly the childish option won. People have already decided how they think CC atheists act. You didn't have to bring it up again.


Actually it was the 'arrogant' option that won that poll

Just another point though, most atheists don't behave the way the ones on this site do. I've got friends who believe in God and those who don't. They're both able to act civil towards each other. I tend to believe that there isn't a god but don't try to ridicule those who do.


You're slipping into arrogance mode. Careful...
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Frigidus on Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:01 pm

protectedbygold wrote:
deronimo wrote:
Gregrios wrote:Atheists of CC, what's your deal anyway? :?


Gergrios, you wasted your time with this topic because it was already done months ago and if I remember correctly the childish option won. People have already decided how they think CC atheists act. You didn't have to bring it up again.


Actually it was the 'arrogant' option that won that poll

Just another point though, most atheists don't behave the way the ones on this site do. I've got friends who believe in God and those who don't. They're both able to act civil towards each other. I tend to believe that there isn't a god but don't try to ridicule those who do.


Well, this is the internet after all. I'd never say the things I say here to my friends with faith. The nice (or not so nice depending on your line of thought) thing about message boards like this is that you can be completely frank with other people due to the fact that we're basically anonymous.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Frigidus on Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:02 pm

rubicon wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
rubicon wrote:You want arguments against God's existence read Hume, Dawkins, etc. You want arguments for his existence read Platinga, Aquinas, etc. You know where you don't look to find the answers to these types questions? A: a fucking message board.


But blindly listening to the opinions of the "great" is the reason we have this problem in the first place. How about we think for ourselves? Hell, if our opinion on the nature of the universe can be discovered by reading a book, why don't we just pick our favorite politician and take on all his political ideals? After all, who are we to think and debate about such things?


Well, if you are able to comprehend the concepts presented in the works i mentioned, I would assume that you have to intelligence to form your own opinions regarding the validity of them, dick.


Or I could leave the musings of others to themselves and muse a bit my own, penis.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Neoteny on Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:04 pm

Frigidus wrote:
protectedbygold wrote:
deronimo wrote:
Gregrios wrote:Atheists of CC, what's your deal anyway? :?


Gergrios, you wasted your time with this topic because it was already done months ago and if I remember correctly the childish option won. People have already decided how they think CC atheists act. You didn't have to bring it up again.


Actually it was the 'arrogant' option that won that poll

Just another point though, most atheists don't behave the way the ones on this site do. I've got friends who believe in God and those who don't. They're both able to act civil towards each other. I tend to believe that there isn't a god but don't try to ridicule those who do.


Well, this is the internet after all. I'd never say the things I say here to my friends with faith. The nice (or not so nice depending on your line of thought) thing about message boards like this is that you can be completely frank with other people due to the fact that we're basically anonymous.


Eh, I've gotten to the point where, if someone is interested in hearing my opinions, I will give it to them in full. The main difference between my real-life persona and my online persona is that I'm not ridiculing them as harshly.

In other news, I met an atheist in a bar yesterday. Get this: he's in the military and has served in action. I asked him if he had to dig any foxholes. He said no, but I think I can stretch the story a bit, right?
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:05 pm

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Re: CC atheists!

Postby DaGip on Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:18 pm

First, god is just a word. It is a descriptive word that relates to something that is greater than ourselves, some people choose to worship it. I do not, however.

Many things can be gods in our lives. Jesus, the Sun, the Earth, some volcano, your parents, a grizzly bear you meet in the wilderness...all of these things people may consider greater than themselves, but to worship them is to no avail (especially if you meet a grizzly in the forest!) We create our own realities which in turn is influenced by our environment.

For example, I can choose to become a doctor, but President Bush starts a nuclear holocaust and destroys the United States and my chances are now ruined and I must now spend the rest of my life scavenging for non-radiated food and constantly running away from the hordes of radioactive zombies that now roam the inner cities.

Believing in a god is fine, but banking on it to fulfill your wishes tends to lend to irresponsibility. And fighting over who believes in the ONE TRUE GOD is stupid and caters to ignorance.

But I need to say that the teachings are what is important. There are some good writings with grand wisdom that should be preserved. I enjoy reading the Gospels of the New Testament. I like what someone wrote about what Jesus said, and if those were his real words...then I think Jesus was a real cool dude, doesn't mean that I am going to give him God status.

Throughout history, there has always been the concept of the Son of God, and I think it is people's nature to believe in a higher entity above themselves. And praying to it seems to relieve some of their evolving neurosis about their own mortality. They must supplement their fear of dying and the unknown with myths and beliefs that make sense to their human senses.

I mean, we can all relate with the sensation of flying (as we have all dreamed about it) and flying would naturally be considered within the realm of god, and what could be more peaceful then floating and flying around the clouds, right? Thusly, the concept of a heaven.

Can we ask ourselves this question? If we have never flown before, how is it that we can dream so accurately of the sensation of flying?
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Backglass on Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:10 pm

protectedbygold wrote:Just another point though, most atheists don't behave the way the ones on this site do. I've got friends who believe in God and those who don't. They're both able to act civil towards each other.


Just another point though, most christians don't behave the way the ones on this site do. I've got friends who believe in gods and those who don't. They're both able to act civil towards each other.
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Re: CC atheists!

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:16 pm

Backglass wrote:
protectedbygold wrote:Just another point though, most atheists don't behave the way the ones on this site do. I've got friends who believe in God and those who don't. They're both able to act civil towards each other.


Just another point though, most christians don't behave the way the ones on this site do. I've got friends who believe in gods and those who don't. They're both able to act civil towards each other.


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