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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby bedub1 on Fri May 08, 2009 9:11 pm

Do you have a picture to backup the title of this thread?
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby captain.crazy on Fri May 08, 2009 9:43 pm

bedub1 wrote:Do you have a picture to backup the title of this thread?


:lol:

I think that this is not the forum for "tub obama" kind of stuff. I was being figurative, of course.
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby MeDeFe on Sun May 10, 2009 5:11 am

captain.crazy, you know there's not nearly enough gold in the world to cover for what the economy needs? The gold standard would put us in never-ending deflation.
Seriously, a currency based on work-hours would be better than the gold standard, which incidentally did not keep the US from overspending even while it was still in place.
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby captain.crazy on Sun May 10, 2009 7:04 am

MeDeFe wrote:captain.crazy, you know there's not nearly enough gold in the world to cover for what the economy needs? The gold standard would put us in never-ending deflation.
Seriously, a currency based on work-hours would be better than the gold standard, which incidentally did not keep the US from overspending even while it was still in place.



Then our economy is artificially inflated. Having an economy that is artificially inflated with worthless paper money only makes the vast corruption of our politicians and their handlers exponentially troublesome.
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby Frigidus on Mon May 11, 2009 10:24 am

captain.crazy wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:captain.crazy, you know there's not nearly enough gold in the world to cover for what the economy needs? The gold standard would put us in never-ending deflation.
Seriously, a currency based on work-hours would be better than the gold standard, which incidentally did not keep the US from overspending even while it was still in place.



Then our economy is artificially inflated. Having an economy that is artificially inflated with worthless paper money only makes the vast corruption of our politicians and their handlers exponentially troublesome.


But what is gold worth exactly? It's just a shiny metal. Basing your technically worthless paper money off of something else technically worthless isn't any more theoretically sound than the current system. No matter what, if you have a system of currency based off of anything that doesn't have a definable value (and, frankly, I'd prefer we don't go back to the cattle standard) it is a system based off of trust in that system.
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby bedub1 on Mon May 11, 2009 12:07 pm

Frigidus wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:captain.crazy, you know there's not nearly enough gold in the world to cover for what the economy needs? The gold standard would put us in never-ending deflation.
Seriously, a currency based on work-hours would be better than the gold standard, which incidentally did not keep the US from overspending even while it was still in place.



Then our economy is artificially inflated. Having an economy that is artificially inflated with worthless paper money only makes the vast corruption of our politicians and their handlers exponentially troublesome.


But what is gold worth exactly? It's just a shiny metal. Basing your technically worthless paper money off of something else technically worthless isn't any more theoretically sound than the current system. No matter what, if you have a system of currency based off of anything that doesn't have a definable value (and, frankly, I'd prefer we don't go back to the cattle standard) it is a system based off of trust in that system.

Nothing is actually worth anything. An item is only worth as much as you can find somebody willing to pay for it. Water is worthless to a man on a lake, but priceless to a man in the desert. a heater is worthless to a man in the desert, but a man trapped outside in the snow would pay you anything for it. Gold is worthless to me, but beer is priceless. We need to get back to the beer standard.
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby Neoteny on Mon May 11, 2009 12:37 pm

I approve.
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby PLAYER57832 on Mon May 11, 2009 5:06 pm

captain.crazy wrote:I don't think that you could be more wrong! Stop and suppose for a moment that there were to come a president that took it upon himself to do away with the laws in this country that made it possible for government agencies to perform surveillance and arrest people for not more than wild suspicion without warrant. Okay... you don't have to imagine to hard, because that is called the patriot act, put in place by the most phony of Republicans that ever walked the earth. Now imagine that just a few short years later, through the constant division and dumbing down of the people that put candidates into office, that we elected a tyrant that actually did want to seize power of our country and change it into a dictatorship, going even so far as to eliminate term limits on the presidency (after all, we don't have them for Congress.)

This might be why the patriot act was revised and essentially repealed.

captain.crazy wrote: If you think about that kind of situation, you can pretty quickly see how a highly powerful federal government should be resisted at all costs. there is much power already at the top.

Yes, in three distinct branches. The above scenario will happen when the US voters consistently, across the country vote in representatives who ae willing to go along with it and when there is a majority in the supreme court who think its OK. Even then, there are steps the US citizens can take apart from armed resistance.

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I am selling my house, I have a lease lined up for a nice place in the mountains, there is a Farm in walking distance to the house. I have guns and a lot of bullets. I can hunt, and fish. I also don't have any qualms about killing someone that thinks that they are going to "tread on me" so to speak. With all of these things that are happening in our country, and infact, our world, these days, I see that it is clear to me that the Revelation of Peter is upon us.

I see, so you intend to force that farmer to simply give you his produce? (since money will be of no use in your vision). You had best BE able to use that gun! Because most farmers I know get a fair amount of practice using theirs. And they don't tend to take too kindly to newcomers from the city popping in and demanding they "share". And should you be planning on running the farm? ... go ahead and try!

P.S. does the name "Weaver" mean anything to you? Locals are getting more and more picky about activities of their neighbors. See, we don't happen to like having our houses and property turned into armed camps.
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In this, you might be correct. However, all of us heading to the hills and hiding won't solve much.
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survival skills... matter of life and death (yep, those survival skills will come in mighty handy when 1,000,000 New Yorkers also head for the hills!).

Set aside the pure lunacy. There is just not enough land for everyone or even a large percentage to live like that. That's why people live in cities.

Second, you are creating your own future. Look at all the armed camps we have already. How many of them have wound up in tragedy for the participants? A good many! When you live with paranoia, you wind up finding it. You find it, because you create it.

I choose not to live that way. I choose to create peace. Its a far more worthy cause.

In the event Armagedon does come, then I will do as the Bible says. God will provide.
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby thegreekdog on Mon May 11, 2009 5:25 pm

I went to public school (shocker of shockers) in the same general area as Player's children. I would love to take a poll on who goes to or went to a private school and who is publicly educated. It's been my limited experience (I know gotonkaed hates this kind evidence) that private school children are more educated. For example, my wife and my brothers-in-law went to private schools and were much more prepared for college than I was. But, I also think part of the onus on learning should be on the student and/or parent. I have confidence that Player's children will turn out well because she cares about their education. When parents and/or children lack interest in education, it doesn't matter what school they go to (see, for example, President George W. Bush - sure, he was president, but he's pretty freaking dumb). So, even though I went to public school in Pennsyltucky, I turned out okay because my parents made me care about educating myself. I think the educational system in the United States has more to do with bad parenting and bad children than bad schooling or bad teachers... but, that's based on personal evidence more than empirical evidence.

In any event, the reason you don't hear about vouchers is that public school teachers have a union. And that union is one of the strongest in the country. And that union largely supports Democrats. And if private schools get government money, that means less money for the union. Therefore, no one in the Democratic party is ever going to talk about private school vouchers, much less support them.
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby captain.crazy on Mon May 11, 2009 9:22 pm

bedub1 wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:captain.crazy, you know there's not nearly enough gold in the world to cover for what the economy needs? The gold standard would put us in never-ending deflation.
Seriously, a currency based on work-hours would be better than the gold standard, which incidentally did not keep the US from overspending even while it was still in place.



Then our economy is artificially inflated. Having an economy that is artificially inflated with worthless paper money only makes the vast corruption of our politicians and their handlers exponentially troublesome.


But what is gold worth exactly? It's just a shiny metal. Basing your technically worthless paper money off of something else technically worthless isn't any more theoretically sound than the current system. No matter what, if you have a system of currency based off of anything that doesn't have a definable value (and, frankly, I'd prefer we don't go back to the cattle standard) it is a system based off of trust in that system.

Nothing is actually worth anything. An item is only worth as much as you can find somebody willing to pay for it. Water is worthless to a man on a lake, but priceless to a man in the desert. a heater is worthless to a man in the desert, but a man trapped outside in the snow would pay you anything for it. Gold is worthless to me, but beer is priceless. We need to get back to the beer standard.


I hear what you are saying, but you know that Gold is the one true currency. You can say that it is worthless to you, but surely you have to know that with it, you could get much beer.
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby captain.crazy on Mon May 11, 2009 9:26 pm

thegreekdog wrote:I went to public school (shocker of shockers) in the same general area as Player's children. I would love to take a poll on who goes to or went to a private school and who is publicly educated. It's been my limited experience (I know gotonkaed hates this kind evidence) that private school children are more educated. For example, my wife and my brothers-in-law went to private schools and were much more prepared for college than I was. But, I also think part of the onus on learning should be on the student and/or parent. I have confidence that Player's children will turn out well because she cares about their education. When parents and/or children lack interest in education, it doesn't matter what school they go to (see, for example, President George W. Bush - sure, he was president, but he's pretty freaking dumb). So, even though I went to public school in Pennsyltucky, I turned out okay because my parents made me care about educating myself. I think the educational system in the United States has more to do with bad parenting and bad children than bad schooling or bad teachers... but, that's based on personal evidence more than empirical evidence.

In any event, the reason you don't hear about vouchers is that public school teachers have a union. And that union is one of the strongest in the country. And that union largely supports Democrats. And if private schools get government money, that means less money for the union. Therefore, no one in the Democratic party is ever going to talk about private school vouchers, much less support them.


That sums it up. It is my point that Obama lied to people when he said that he would support "what ever works" best for the children, when in reality, he is working for what is best for the teachers unions. It is just another lie. Why not just tell the truth? Why not just tell us that he supports massive government and will always throw the bones to the union dogs.
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Re: LOL Obama shits on his supporters!

Postby thegreekdog on Tue May 12, 2009 8:24 am

captain.crazy wrote:Why not just tell the truth? Why not just tell us that he supports massive government and will always throw the bones to the union dogs.


Because then he would lose votes.
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