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Postby MountainLion on Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:42 pm

jnd94 wrote:4 pro-town have been killed in the past 24 hours!!!!! AHHHHH


Damn. We need to make some kind of progress on Day 2. Does this mean we need to be more aggressive?
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Postby Aegnor on Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:43 pm

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Aegnor wrote:Unfortunately for me the hider must hide each night. I can't say anything else because I'm dead (unless anarki allows me to :) )


Absolutely not...

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Postby Fircoal on Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:09 pm

I think the hider hid with mafia. So who would aegnor want to hide with?
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Postby jnd94 on Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:14 pm

if only he could talk once more....
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Postby Colaalone on Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:20 pm

The hider will also die if the person he hides with is killed, right? (according to the list)
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Postby unriggable on Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:21 pm

Colaalone wrote:The hider will also die if the person he hides with is killed, right? (according to the list)


Don't think so.
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Postby Colaalone on Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:22 pm

unriggable wrote:
Colaalone wrote:The hider will also die if the person he hides with is killed, right? (according to the list)


Don't think so.


Thats what "The List" says.
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Postby unriggable on Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:24 pm

Colaalone wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Colaalone wrote:The hider will also die if the person he hides with is killed, right? (according to the list)


Don't think so.


Thats what "The List" says.


Hmm. I think he hid behind mafia. Otherwise A. the doctor protected the right person B. The roleblocker protected the right person C. The hider didn't hide and was targetted.
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Postby Colaalone on Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:30 pm

A and B could be true either way.
There were 2 other deaths, and I would assume this game would include a Vig and a SK. So if he hid behind mafia, there should be a total of 4 deaths. 1 SK, 1 Vig, 1 mafia, and the hider.

Either good job roleblocker, good job doctor, or good job Vig for not taking a shot in the dark and risking the life of a townie when we have barely any info to go on.
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Postby Fircoal on Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:50 pm

I still think that he hid, with mafia or someone who got killed.
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Postby Aimless on Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:06 pm

I don't think this speculation about who Aegnor hid with really helps us much. It's more likely that he hid with the mafia than with either pancake or everywhere, but that doesn't narrow things down in the slightest. And, because of the possibility that he hid with everywhere or pancake there's no guarantee that we learn anything even if we manage to rule out a few people he wouldn't have hidden with.

So, I think it's a null line of speculation. I'd rather try to sift through the mess of day one looking for scumtells.

The voting record doesn't help us much, I think. Sheep pissed enough people off that I don't think most of us cared whether he was town or not when we lynched him, which means the bandwagoners are as likely town as scum.

There were a couple of anomalies though. AK_iceman's no lynch vote early was pretty strange. However, it came before AD agreed to extend the day, so I'm not sure what to make of it.

jnd made some strange statements around page 21 or so, using a misquote to try to push a lynch against Aegnor. Since we now know Aegnor was town, that seems even more suspicious.

So, FOS AK_iceman, and FOS jnd.

Anyone else have any strange day one comments to add to the mix?
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Postby wicked on Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:10 pm

how the hell did they know who the cop was? lucky shot, or did he give something away??

there's also the possibility of two mafia, that was brought up before, right?
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Postby AK_iceman on Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:33 pm

wicked wrote:how the hell did they know who the cop was? lucky shot, or did he give something away??

there's also the possibility of two mafia, that was brought up before, right?

Yeah, I'm not sure 2 mafia's makes sense any more. It seems like Anark is really sticking to the theme of the movie, with Morgan Earp being the cop, since in the movie he was the first of the Earp brothers to become the town sheriff. And Josephine Marcus being the hider kinda makes sense, since thats pretty much all the females characters in the movie did.

The 2 mafia's would have been the Earps, and the Cowboys. But since one of the Earps is a pro-town cop, it doesn't seem likely anymore that there is 2 mafias.
Anyone think that sounds reasonable?
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Postby Aimless on Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:47 pm

That sounds reasonable to me. If there were two mafia, I would have expected them to be the Earps and the Cowboys. I can't think of any other way to split the characters into two mafia that makes sense.

Along that same line, do we have an SK? I'm not sure which character would fit that role.
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Postby wicked on Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:15 pm

ok I know nothing of the movie. what roles can we expect then?
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Postby MountainLion on Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:58 pm

AK_iceman wrote:Hmmm... well the only way that role could be effectively used to find Mafia is if the hider roleclaimed on Day 1, and told us who he would be hiding with each night. Other than night, it seems like a useless role.


If I'm understanding the role of the Hider correctly it would kind of be like a cop but backwards. The Hider could find out who's NOT mafia. That helps if he doesn't hide with mafia. Unfortunately he made that mistake on the first night. Some luck. :(
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Postby MountainLion on Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:00 pm

...Oh, and he wouldn't have to roleclaim. But each day he doesn't roleclaim he takes a risk. Seems like a difficult role to play.
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Postby Hitman079 on Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:44 am

we can't really make much of day 1 since it's a hectic day, and in this game it started with day.
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Postby AK_iceman on Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:22 am

Hitman079 wrote:we can't really make much of day 1 since it's a hectic day, and in this game it started with day.

A very obvious sub-marine post.
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Postby jnd94 on Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:46 am

Hitman079 wrote:we can't really make much of day 1 since it's a hectic day, and in this game it started with day.


do days start with night?
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Postby mandalorian2298 on Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:19 am

jnd94 wrote:
Hitman079 wrote:we can't really make much of day 1 since it's a hectic day, and in this game it started with day.


do days start with night?
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FOS jnd This is the second time that you FOSed or voted someone based on wrong interpretation or skimming the posts. You are really to quick to suspect someone without even caring if they are suspicius or not.

I agree with Iceman that Morgan Earp being the Cop means that we probably only have one mafia. Although I don't know wich resident of Tombstone would fit the role, I still think that there must be a SK out there (to explain the number of kills).

Question for the veterans: If there is only one mafia in a 21 player game, how much of them is there?
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Postby I GOT SERVED on Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:20 am

I've been suspicious about you as of late. But that last post showed some serious skimming and scummyness.

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Postby got tonkaed on Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:47 am

sorry i havent been more active in the thread, i have been trying to follow it, but im struggling with as many games as are going on for me at the moment. Jnd tends to follow the crowd more often than not and this isnt really all that acceptable since he should have more of a clue by now. However, i am suspicious of igotserved for following right after mando claiming that he has had suspicions of jnd, but now that someone else points them out, you claim you have had them. Well why not bring them forward beforehand? Everyone knows jnd is a bandwaggoner it looks suspcious being the last person to point this out, especially as votes are going to start being put toward him soon (most likely).
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Postby The1exile on Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:17 am

AK_iceman wrote:
wicked wrote:how the hell did they know who the cop was? lucky shot, or did he give something away??

there's also the possibility of two mafia, that was brought up before, right?

Yeah, I'm not sure 2 mafia's makes sense any more. It seems like Anark is really sticking to the theme of the movie, with Morgan Earp being the cop, since in the movie he was the first of the Earp brothers to become the town sheriff. And Josephine Marcus being the hider kinda makes sense, since thats pretty much all the females characters in the movie did.

The 2 mafia's would have been the Earps, and the Cowboys. But since one of the Earps is a pro-town cop, it doesn't seem likely anymore that there is 2 mafias.
Anyone think that sounds reasonable?


Idk much about the movie, se is it possible that the other Earp might be a deputy or mafia?
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Postby unriggable on Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:37 am

Okay so here is the most probable setup for three kills: Vig, mafia, sk, or if the movie then mafia and vig and hider hid behind mafia or the guy who was killed.
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