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Re: ObamaCare - HEAR ME NOW?

Postby Night Strike on Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:36 pm

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Phatscotty wrote:
We all know Obamacare is designed to fail, and when it does the blueprint for Universal healthcare/Socialism will already be in place and thus reveal itself as the true intention all along.

Really?

So your answer is to support the Republican toddlers who will bully everyone to destroy the healthcare reform act before it even has a chance to work.


How can a law that is inherently flawed ever have a chance to work on its own?
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Re: ObamaCare - HEAR ME NOW?

Postby oVo on Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:21 am

Imagine if George Walker Bush had introduced
the Affordable Care Act. We would be discussing
BushCare.
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Re: ObamaCare - HEAR ME NOW?

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:14 am

Night Strike wrote:How can a person that is inherently flawed ever have a chance to work on their own?

Fixed.


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Re: ObamaCare - HEAR ME NOW?

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:02 pm

I'm kind of excited to see how the Affordable Care Act does in practice.
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Re: ObamaCare - HEAR ME NOW?

Postby Phatscotty on Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:04 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
So your answer is to support the Republican toddlers who will bully everyone to destroy the healthcare reform act before it even has a chance to work.


No, we mean this!

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Re: ObamaCare - HEAR ME NOW?

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:42 pm

Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, and Marco Rubio are Fillibustering!

Are you going to listen to what they say, and then criticize? Or are you going to ignore what they say and then criticize? The validity of the criticism depends on that entirely.
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Re: ObamaCare - HEAR ME NOW?

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:02 pm

Phatscotty wrote:Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, and Marco Rubio are Fillibustering!

Are you going to listen to what they say, and then criticize? Or are you going to ignore what they say and then criticize? The validity of the criticism depends on that entirely.


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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby karel on Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:17 pm

all this is doing is making cruz and the other jack asses look like a bunch of retards,o...wait they are,sorry forgot.....yep power to the dems in next election,.....hope the republican party thx cruz for making them the weak party,im glad he is doing this,now the dems will have full control,and will be able to get some stuff done...Be gone republicans
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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:30 pm

karel wrote:all this is doing is making cruz and the other jack asses look like a bunch of retards,o...wait they are,sorry forgot.....yep power to the dems in next election,.....hope the republican party thx cruz for making them the weak party,im glad he is doing this,now the dems will have full control,and will be able to get some stuff done...Be gone republicans


Like the last time Democrats had control? Did they get it done? Really? Then why are we still here dealing with their bill from 2009?? Oh, because Obama keeps delaying it until AFTER the election? Yeah, that sounds reeeeeeaaaaaalll positive there.

The Democrats already had what you wish for, and that's why they lost it in 2010, and AGAIN in 2012. Republicans got elected SPECIFICALLY to oppose Obamacare, and the voters put them in Congress to do that, and that's what they are doing.

Go ahead, support this bill all you want. Not that anyone knew what was even in it when it was voted on, but yeah, sounds intelligent to support that!!


Go ahead, defend the way Obamacare was passed.


Republicans already voted 42 times to repeal Obamacare....did they lose the House of Representatives?? NO they got re-elected! Needless to say, I'm not too worried about Democrats. We are ready for a fight, and it makes me warm and fuzzy inside to know that Democrats are scared to fight and crying and whining and can only focus on the 2014 elections. I don't think the Democrats will be rewarded, guess it depends on how Obama spins it.

This is about standing up and fighting for what we believe in, and 57% of America is with us. Insult us all you want for representing the majority of Americans. I think that we will be rewarded for that, but you are free to opine otherwise.
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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby karel on Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:34 pm

yep and they stupid enough that they cant even repeal it,lmao......the biggest joke in dc is the tea party and republicans....when they open their mouths up all i can see is shit flying out,so its best they just shut up,and do the job they got voted in for.

Ah piss on it,hope they do shut down the government,i dont care....shut them down for a month
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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:43 pm

karel wrote:yep and they stupid enough that they cant even repeal it,lmao......the biggest joke in dc is the tea party and republicans....when they open their mouths up all i can see is shit flying out,so its best they just shut up,and do the job they got voted in for


They repealed it 42 times. I don't think you know what you are talking about.
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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby karel on Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:46 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
karel wrote:yep and they stupid enough that they cant even repeal it,lmao......the biggest joke in dc is the tea party and republicans....when they open their mouths up all i can see is shit flying out,so its best they just shut up,and do the job they got voted in for


They repealed it 42 times. I don't think you know what you are talking about.



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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:54 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
karel wrote:yep and they stupid enough that they cant even repeal it,lmao......the biggest joke in dc is the tea party and republicans....when they open their mouths up all i can see is shit flying out,so its best they just shut up,and do the job they got voted in for


They repealed it 42 times. I don't think you know what you are talking about.


The fact that they repealed it 42 times just shows how stupid they are.

The fact that they are still in office just shows how stupid the American people are.
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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:13 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
karel wrote:yep and they stupid enough that they cant even repeal it,lmao......the biggest joke in dc is the tea party and republicans....when they open their mouths up all i can see is shit flying out,so its best they just shut up,and do the job they got voted in for


They repealed it 42 times. I don't think you know what you are talking about.


The fact that they repealed it 42 times just shows how stupid they are.

The fact that they are still in office just shows how stupid the American people are.


Yeah, well they're stupid

Winning arguments since..... never

If you could show how or explain why it is something is stupid, THEN you are really onto something, and we can start having a conversation.
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Re: ObamaCare

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:45 pm

jj3044 wrote:This thread is full of inaccuracies, misdirection, and pomp and circumstance.
Phatscotty wrote:
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Obama's big plan was socialized (single payer)....


So now is it okay to name the thread socialized healthcare? Back when it was being debated, a lot of lefties were complaining to mods (yes they asked me to change it) about that thread title and that it was trolling, since, ya know, Obamacare isn't even close to anything resembling socialism.....

Again, I was right and they were all wrong. I would like to be proven wrong for once, just to see what it feels like...

Dude, you cut her quote to mis-represent her point. C'mon, I for one am trying to have a constructive conversation here.


I don't think so. I wouldn't cut off her point because I totally agree, and so does the leader of the US Senate. Harry Reid just admitted it.

Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca ... er-system/
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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:48 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
karel wrote:yep and they stupid enough that they cant even repeal it,lmao......the biggest joke in dc is the tea party and republicans....when they open their mouths up all i can see is shit flying out,so its best they just shut up,and do the job they got voted in for


They repealed it 42 times. I don't think you know what you are talking about.


The fact that they repealed it 42 times just shows how stupid they are.

The fact that they are still in office just shows how stupid the American people are.


Yeah, well they're stupid

Winning arguments since..... never

If you could show how or explain why it is something is stupid, THEN you are really onto something, and we can start having a conversation.


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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:52 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
karel wrote:yep and they stupid enough that they cant even repeal it,lmao......the biggest joke in dc is the tea party and republicans....when they open their mouths up all i can see is shit flying out,so its best they just shut up,and do the job they got voted in for


They repealed it 42 times. I don't think you know what you are talking about.


The fact that they repealed it 42 times just shows how stupid they are.

The fact that they are still in office just shows how stupid the American people are.


Yeah, well they're stupid

Winning arguments since..... never

If you could show how or explain why it is something is stupid, THEN you are really onto something, and we can start having a conversation.


Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

- Albert Einstein


And maybe, just maybe.....when Obamacare actually starts and Americans can finally see what Obamacare really is, people will remember Republicans tried like hell to stop Obamacare, and will be rewarded for decades! Who would remember the Republican position if they only took a stand JUST one time? NOBODY!

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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby john9blue on Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:34 pm

i was expecting more from fircoal after he called everybody else stupid. i'm a bit disappointed.
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Re: ObamaCare - FILLIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:23 am

KEEP GOING TED! BREAK THE RECORD FOR LONGEST FILIBUSTER IN HISTORY AND LET'S GIVE THEM THE FIGHT OF A GENERATION!

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Re: ObamaCare

Postby Frigidus on Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:25 am

Phatscotty wrote:
jj3044 wrote:This thread is full of inaccuracies, misdirection, and pomp and circumstance.
Phatscotty wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:
Obama's big plan was socialized (single payer)....


So now is it okay to name the thread socialized healthcare? Back when it was being debated, a lot of lefties were complaining to mods (yes they asked me to change it) about that thread title and that it was trolling, since, ya know, Obamacare isn't even close to anything resembling socialism.....

Again, I was right and they were all wrong. I would like to be proven wrong for once, just to see what it feels like...

Dude, you cut her quote to mis-represent her point. C'mon, I for one am trying to have a constructive conversation here.


I don't think so. I wouldn't cut off her point because I totally agree, and so does the leader of the US Senate. Harry Reid just admitted it.

Sen. Harry Reid: Obamacare 'Absolutely' A Step Toward A Single-Payer System
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca ... er-system/


More words from the Democrats. They seem to have more words than they'd ever know what to do with, but that's about all we ever get out of them. I'm not sure how the Heritage Foundation's health care plan is a step towards a single payer system.
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Re: ObamaCare - FILIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:48 am

So, then, Obamacare will never "evolve" into a single payer system? We have your word right?

Hey, let's just imagine that health care costs keep going up faster and faster (crazy I know) Let's also pretend there is no track record whatsoever of government programs costing 10x of what they were supposed to. And 5 years down the road, it becomes clear Obamacare bit off way more than it can chew. btw, what's our national debt in 5 years? 27 trillion? Yeah, so people aren't really willing to buy our debt anymore or invest in our economy either, and we are on our own......

What, if you had to take a wild, WILD guess, would you suppose would happen to Obamacare then?
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Re: ObamaCare - FILIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby Frigidus on Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:52 am

Phatscotty wrote:So, then, Obamacare will never "evolve" into a single payer system? We have your word right?


I wish that it would, but it won't. If a single payer system came out of the modern Democratic party it would completely demolish my view of the U.S. political system.
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Re: ObamaCare - FILIBUSTER ON CSPAN2 RIGHT NOW!

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:40 am

Frigidus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:So, then, Obamacare will never "evolve" into a single payer system? We have your word right?


I wish that it would, but it won't. If a single payer system came out of the modern Democratic party it would completely demolish my view of the U.S. political system.


Dammit... I've been saying that for going on four years. The Democratic Party has no interest in a single payer system.
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