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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby spurgistan on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:00 pm

Symmetry wrote:
General Brock II wrote:Where are they getting all of their food from? It appears that people are mass serving them. Why?!? Why are the protestors clinging to their cell phones and technological gadgets?


Seems like a couple of leading questions. What's your point?


Today on Fox News: OWS protesters not starving to death. How? Why not? Financial companies are the only reason we have food today, therefore, people who think they shouldn't run our government don't deserve food. It is impossible to think that maybe, some people in business might not support the financial elite and their puppets on Capitol Hill. All is well! All is well! Here, have some Kool-aid.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby john9blue on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:01 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
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Lootifer wrote:What BBS said basically.

Your lack of objectivity is pretty clear (OWS isn't some thinly veiled communist movement...).


You're right, it's quite obvious that they promote a process of violent revolution in order to institute communist-like policies to satisfy their greed. There's not really anything "thinly veiled" with them.


lol u so funny NS!

"a process of violent revolution" lol, OWS is like factory line for producing and distributing guns! AHHH!!!!

OMG! THEY"VE GOT GUNS BUT NOT REALLY BUT YEAH THEY DO< SO GAS AND SHOOT THEM!!!!


You don't have to have a gun to be violent. They were doing a pretty good job of it by using glass bottles, bats, breaking into businesses, etc.


Are you going to apply small instances of violence to every single individual of every single OWS-related movement?

Where are the news stories of the Occupy movement in New Orleans trashing businesses, shooting cops, and burning cars? Did that happen in New York? Is this common, or is NS merely applying a small instance to the entire movement?


if the tea party are racists, then the OWS kids are violent.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Aradhus on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:05 pm

john9blue wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
You're right, it's quite obvious that they promote a process of violent revolution in order to institute communist-like policies to satisfy their greed. There's not really anything "thinly veiled" with them.


lol u so funny NS!

"a process of violent revolution" lol, OWS is like factory line for producing and distributing guns! AHHH!!!!

OMG! THEY"VE GOT GUNS BUT NOT REALLY BUT YEAH THEY DO< SO GAS AND SHOOT THEM!!!!


You don't have to have a gun to be violent. They were doing a pretty good job of it by using glass bottles, bats, breaking into businesses, etc.


Are you going to apply small instances of violence to every single individual of every single OWS-related movement?

Where are the news stories of the Occupy movement in New Orleans trashing businesses, shooting cops, and burning cars? Did that happen in New York? Is this common, or is NS merely applying a small instance to the entire movement?


if the tea party are racists, then the OWS kids are violent.


I believe in my neck of the gloom, that's what we call a little petty. I believe the dignified response would be, even though people tried to blanket the entire Tea party movement with the actions of a few, I won't do likewise to a movement I don't suport. Grownup responses are so passe though.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Symmetry on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:07 pm

john9blue wrote:if the tea party are racists, then the OWS kids are violent.


Yeah, doesn't actually work that way. Try again.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby john9blue on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:23 pm

Aradhus wrote:
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BigBallinStalin wrote:Are you going to apply small instances of violence to every single individual of every single OWS-related movement?

Where are the news stories of the Occupy movement in New Orleans trashing businesses, shooting cops, and burning cars? Did that happen in New York? Is this common, or is NS merely applying a small instance to the entire movement?


if the tea party are racists, then the OWS kids are violent.


I believe in my neck of the gloom, that's what we call a little petty. I believe the dignified response would be, even though people tried to blanket the entire Tea party movement with the actions of a few, I won't do likewise to a movement I don't suport. Grownup responses are so passe though.


i take far more enjoyment than i should in pointing out hypocrisy wherever i see it.

tea party protesters were frequently portrayed as violent and racist without any substantial evidence... and now the OWS protesters are innocent? the amount of delusion a person has to have to hold those two thoughts in their mind simultaneously is staggering.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Symmetry on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:28 pm

john9blue wrote:tea party protesters were frequently portrayed as violent and racist without any substantial evidence... and now the OWS protesters are innocent? the amount of delusion a person has to have to hold those two thoughts in their mind simultaneously is staggering.


Erm, these are both your own beliefs.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby john9blue on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:32 pm

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john9blue wrote:tea party protesters were frequently portrayed as violent and racist without any substantial evidence... and now the OWS protesters are innocent? the amount of delusion a person has to have to hold those two thoughts in their mind simultaneously is staggering.


Erm, these are both your own beliefs.


and that's, like, YOUR belief, man
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Symmetry on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:35 pm

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john9blue wrote:tea party protesters were frequently portrayed as violent and racist without any substantial evidence... and now the OWS protesters are innocent? the amount of delusion a person has to have to hold those two thoughts in their mind simultaneously is staggering.


Erm, these are both your own beliefs.


and that's, like, YOUR belief, man


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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:07 pm

Seeing violence where there is none and ignoring violence when there is plenty is their trademark.

They are the enlightened ones.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Night Strike on Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:07 am

john9blue wrote:tea party protesters were frequently portrayed as violent and racist without any substantial evidence... and now the OWS protesters are innocent? the amount of delusion a person has to have to hold those two thoughts in their mind simultaneously is staggering.


Actually, the term for that delusional mental state is "liberalism".
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:06 am

f*ck liberty, freedom, individual and property rights, cuz they aren't fair, according to 310 million separate ideas about what is "fair". Hey guess what if thees occupiers get what they want and make people at the top pay and get a system that is fair, prepare to not have shit. You might think your'e gonna get something from the rich by way of more taxes or them actually paying their fair share, but in reality there are so many people underneath you that you are going to be the one who loses the most, and they aren't going to give a crap if you tell them you are one of them or you support them. They will hang you from a streetlight pole faster than you can flick the on switch. No trial, no jury, no evidence.

They willbrutally assault peeps just for having nice clothes, or for being too stupid to hide their nice shoes and insulting the poor by wearing fancy things in public.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Iliad on Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:45 am

Nighstrike, you're right look at these hardened violent criminals/sarcasm
I'd know Phatscotty would literally ejaculate if those protesters happened to be tea partiers.



Phatscotty wrote:f*ck liberty, freedom, individual and property rights, cuz they aren't fair, according to 310 million separate ideas about what is "fair". Hey guess what if thees occupiers get what they want and make people at the top pay and get a system that is fair, prepare to not have shit. You might think your'e gonna get something from the rich by way of more taxes or them actually paying their fair share, but in reality there are so many people underneath you that you are going to be the one who loses the most, and they aren't going to give a crap if you tell them you are one of them or you support them. They will hang you from a streetlight pole faster than you can flick the on switch. No trial, no jury, no evidence.

They willbrutally assault peeps just for having nice clothes, or for being too stupid to hide their nice shoes and insulting the poor by wearing fancy things in public.

Apparently holding the rich class accountable to those pesky things called "laws" is unthinkable. Drawing attention that the very rich are allowed to get away with any crimes they wish, removing any consequences altogether for them, while they are also able to control the democratic process which is not beholden to its people anymore is outright treasonous.

But hey, as long as keep shining their boots, they gotta let you in their club someday? I mean stopping to think for one second and realise you've been shafted and played like a fool your entire life, that would take some serious effort, Scotty/
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:51 am

Iliad wrote:Nighstrike, you're right look at these hardened violent criminals/sarcasm
I'd know Phatscotty would literally ejaculate if those protesters happened to be tea partiers.



Phatscotty wrote:f*ck liberty, freedom, individual and property rights, cuz they aren't fair, according to 310 million separate ideas about what is "fair". Hey guess what if thees occupiers get what they want and make people at the top pay and get a system that is fair, prepare to not have shit. You might think your'e gonna get something from the rich by way of more taxes or them actually paying their fair share, but in reality there are so many people underneath you that you are going to be the one who loses the most, and they aren't going to give a crap if you tell them you are one of them or you support them. They will hang you from a streetlight pole faster than you can flick the on switch. No trial, no jury, no evidence.

They willbrutally assault peeps just for having nice clothes, or for being too stupid to hide their nice shoes and insulting the poor by wearing fancy things in public.

Apparently holding the rich class accountable to those pesky things called "laws" is unthinkable. Drawing attention that the very rich are allowed to get away with any crimes they wish, removing any consequences altogether for them, while they are also able to control the democratic process which is not beholden to its people anymore is outright treasonous.

But hey, as long as keep shining their boots, they gotta let you in their club someday? I mean stopping to think for one second and realise you've been shafted and played like a fool your entire life, that would take some serious effort, Scotty/


Right, and not a peep about the politicians who write shortcuts around those laws and funnel taxpayer money to companies like Solyndra, GE, Haliburton etc.... :roll: But be sure to keep voting for them!

Laws? How can you sit here and pretend to care about the laws when you look the other way while the Occupiers break the laws everyday? Oh yeah, you only care about certain laws that benefit you, and shiite all over laws the protect peoples liberty and freedom from the barbarian hoardes. Just because someone is rich does not mean they haves to sacrifice their rights or listen to brainwashed college students demands who have never spent 1 single day in the real world or never had to earn their own living yet seem to know how the world works better than everyone else, or listen to a bunch of lazy bastards tell them how they are supposed to spend their earnings.

I have not heard you condemn occupiers who have raped, killed, trashed public and private property, shut down bridges and roads and closing down businesses and destroying public and private restrooms. OH!!!!! But when it comes to a rich person using a tax loophole that a POLITICIAN provides specifically for them, well then it's time to burn down the rich peeps homes and eat them alive! That's right, don't mention one little thing about the politicians who take corrupted money and give loopholes in return, the focus is solely on the fat cat who uses the loophole. How did Obama get 1 billion dollars for re-election? 8-) oh quick there's a fact! look the other way! stay away from the light!

FYI, I do not shine boots, and I do not try to get into their club, I try to create my own club for my family and then protect it from the looter class who wants to steal my lifetime work.... I simply stand up for people rights no matter if they are rich or poor, regardless of class or race or sex or disability. I work hard and earn an honest living and watch my moneyclosely and save it and invest it wisely. You have it so wrong here you can guess where I'm gonna tell you to shove your BS rhetoric.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby rockfist on Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:55 am

Phatscotty wrote:f*ck liberty, freedom, individual and property rights, cuz they aren't fair, according to 310 million separate ideas about what is "fair". Hey guess what if thees occupiers get what they want and make people at the top pay and get a system that is fair, prepare to not have shit. You might think your'e gonna get something from the rich by way of more taxes or them actually paying their fair share, but in reality there are so many people underneath you that you are going to be the one who loses the most, and they aren't going to give a crap if you tell them you are one of them or you support them. They will hang you from a streetlight pole faster than you can flick the on switch. No trial, no jury, no evidence.

They willbrutally assault peeps just for having nice clothes, or for being too stupid to hide their nice shoes and insulting the poor by wearing fancy things in public.


Bring on the guillotine!

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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:14 am

Phatscotty wrote:FYI, I do not shine boots, and I do not try to get into their club, I try to create my own club for my family and then protect it from the looter class who wants to steal my lifetime work.... I simply stand up for people rights no matter if they are rich or poor, regardless of class or race or sex or disability. I work hard and earn an honest living and watch my moneyclosely and save it and invest it wisely. You have it so wrong here you can guess where I'm gonna tell you to shove your BS rhetoric.

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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby General Brock II on Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:33 am

spurgistan wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
General Brock II wrote:Where are they getting all of their food from? It appears that people are mass serving them. Why?!? Why are the protestors clinging to their cell phones and technological gadgets?


Seems like a couple of leading questions. What's your point?


Today on Fox News: OWS protesters not starving to death. How? Why not? Financial companies are the only reason we have food today, therefore, people who think they shouldn't run our government don't deserve food. It is impossible to think that maybe, some people in business might not support the financial elite and their puppets on Capitol Hill. All is well! All is well! Here, have some Kool-aid.


My point is that they're already gleaning from the non-protesting public for massive food tables. I wouldn't be surprised if they've been raiding local foodbanks, as well. If, as somebody stated, they are fundraising, kudos to them (money comes from productive public). Why aren't they using personal funds and fending for themselves? Maybe pooling their own money for these concessions? As a few of you have stated, it's certainly hypocritical.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:51 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:FYI, I do not shine boots, and I do not try to get into their club, I try to create my own club for my family and then protect it from the looter class who wants to steal my lifetime work.... I simply stand up for people rights no matter if they are rich or poor, regardless of class or race or sex or disability. I work hard and earn an honest living and watch my moneyclosely and save it and invest it wisely. You have it so wrong here you can guess where I'm gonna tell you to shove your BS rhetoric.

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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:55 am

General Brock II wrote:
spurgistan wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
General Brock II wrote:Where are they getting all of their food from? It appears that people are mass serving them. Why?!? Why are the protestors clinging to their cell phones and technological gadgets?


Seems like a couple of leading questions. What's your point?


Today on Fox News: OWS protesters not starving to death. How? Why not? Financial companies are the only reason we have food today, therefore, people who think they shouldn't run our government don't deserve food. It is impossible to think that maybe, some people in business might not support the financial elite and their puppets on Capitol Hill. All is well! All is well! Here, have some Kool-aid.


My point is that they're already gleaning from the non-protesting public for massive food tables. I wouldn't be surprised if they've been raiding local foodbanks, as well. If, as somebody stated, they are fundraising, kudos to them (money comes from productive public). Why aren't they using personal funds and fending for themselves? Maybe pooling their own money for these concessions? As a few of you have stated, it's certainly hypocritical.


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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby General Brock II on Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:38 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:FYI, I do not shine boots, and I do not try to get into their club, I try to create my own club for my family and then protect it from the looter class who wants to steal my lifetime work.... I simply stand up for people rights no matter if they are rich or poor, regardless of class or race or sex or disability. I work hard and earn an honest living and watch my moneyclosely and save it and invest it wisely. You have it so wrong here you can guess where I'm gonna tell you to shove your BS rhetoric.

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hear, hear! I would actually like to see any two of the OWS protestors do my job for a week. If they lasted, I'd be amazed. If they quit and expected me to give them my hard earned dollars... I'd wearily expect it.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby spurgistan on Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:48 pm

If, while they did your job you slept outside on the street and risk bodily injury from cops for peacefully objecting to the status quo, I would possibly consider that a fair deal.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Aradhus on Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:18 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:FYI, I do not shine boots, and I do not try to get into their club, I try to create my own club for my family and then protect it from the looter class who wants to steal my lifetime work.... I simply stand up for people rights no matter if they are rich or poor, regardless of class or race or sex or disability. I work hard and earn an honest living and watch my moneyclosely and save it and invest it wisely. You have it so wrong here you can guess where I'm gonna tell you to shove your BS rhetoric.

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What do you call it when you take something from someone else, based on "your need?" Oh wait, I forgot. You have a right to other peoples work, time, money, and property.... especially if they have a lot of it. Silly me


I think people call it a bailout.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Bones2484 on Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:23 pm

spurgistan wrote:If, while they did your job you slept outside on the street and risk bodily injury from cops for peacefully objecting to the status quo, I would possibly consider that a fair deal.


Is it required that I ignore police orders and laws while "peacefully objecting" or can I comply with them in order to avoid the risk of bodily injury?
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby john9blue on Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:41 pm

Night Strike wrote:
john9blue wrote:tea party protesters were frequently portrayed as violent and racist without any substantial evidence... and now the OWS protesters are innocent? the amount of delusion a person has to have to hold those two thoughts in their mind simultaneously is staggering.


Actually, the term for that delusional mental state is "liberalism".


many conservatives are deluded too; not quite as high of a percentage though

Iliad wrote:But hey, as long as keep shining their boots, they gotta let you in their club someday? I mean stopping to think for one second and realise you've been shafted and played like a fool your entire life, that would take some serious effort, Scotty/


this is exactly what i'm talking about. iliad genuinely thinks that scotty only
"supports the club" due to some long-term goal of joining the ruling elite banksters.

THIS is delusion. iliad has demonstrated it.
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Re: Occupy Wall Street: Support or Oppose?

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:54 pm

Aradhus wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:FYI, I do not shine boots, and I do not try to get into their club, I try to create my own club for my family and then protect it from the looter class who wants to steal my lifetime work.... I simply stand up for people rights no matter if they are rich or poor, regardless of class or race or sex or disability. I work hard and earn an honest living and watch my moneyclosely and save it and invest it wisely. You have it so wrong here you can guess where I'm gonna tell you to shove your BS rhetoric.

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I think people call it a bailout.


Okay, so when I go to the doctor and refuse to pay my bill, stick up a stranger on the streets for money, or vote for people who promise to take from one people and give to another people, that is a bailout. The Tea Party seems more awesome than ever!
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